Damnable Pact

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Format Legality
Vintage Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Legacy Legal
Modern Legal
Frontier Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal

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Dragons of Tarkir Rare

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Damnable Pact

Sorcery

Target player draws X cards and loses X life.

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Damnable Pact Discussion

Chuff_Bucket on More Life, More Problems

1 week ago

I actually like this build a lot, it seems pretty functional already! Lots of fun little interactions and ways to abuse your lifegain.

That being said, here are my suggestions:

First, you need more sources of card draw - at least a couple more. Harmonize, Ambition's Cost/Ancient Craving, Erebos, God of the Dead, Damnable Pact, Bloodgift Demon, Harvester of Souls, Painful Truths, Promise of Power, and Wretched Confluence are all good options. Decree of Pain pulls double duty in being a board-wipe and a hand-refiller!

In order to make room for a couple of those, I would cut Ghostly Prison and Faith's Reward. For Ghostly Prison, you're already padding your life total a lot, so that will mitigate any attacks coming your way. Additionally, you're playing a lot of big, scary stuff that people aren't going to want to swing in to anyway. It doesn't really seem to go with the gameplan of the deck. With Faith's Reward, I've always found this card to underperform. In a permanent-heavy deck like this, very rarely are you going to want to hold up 4 mana on the off-chance that your opponent uses a boardwipe. And even if you wanted to use this in conjunction with your own, that's a minimum of 8 mana right there. There are better things to be doing at that stage of the game. I can just foresee that a lot of the time, that card will be a dead card in your hand.

Another thing that sticks out to me is that you have a LOT of high-CMC creatures. In fact, of all your creatures currently in the deck, only 5 are below CMC 4. You may want to consider eschewing some of those bigger CMC creatures for smaller ones that will help you out - stuff like Soul Warden, Soul's Attendant, Essence Warden, maybe Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim. You don't want to get stuck with an empty board by the time Ikra Shadiqi hits the board!

dotytron on Grixis Card Disadvantage

1 month ago

i would out Tezzeret the Schemer as well, t4 if we have the mana we normally wont need ramp, and his other abilities dont feel relevant enough at the point. i would slot in Cerebral Vortex for him personally

i do think Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind is big for Modern, and honestly without wheel cards he prolly wouldnt play well here anyway

as far as Damnable Pact i would keep it, imo it only gets better the longer the game goes on... but if you wanted to remove it i would say Molten Psyche like you said

xcesiv on Grixis Card Disadvantage

1 month ago

Thanks so much for the input, both of you! I'm down for either direction with the deck. dotytron, I think mattman856 was trying to go more heavily leaning towards making them have a larger hand size and killing them with cards like Ebony Owl Netsuke, Gaze of Adamaro, Sword of War and Peace, etc. Currently, both work well together in the deck. However, dotytron, I think was more correct in the original theme and it not leaving. The other kind of evolved from the first, if that makes sense.

dotytron, Toil / Trouble was actually in the original standard version of the deck. Decided to take it out because of speed. I'd love to see it come back if there's room for it. Cerebral Vortex I've been having a hard time thinking of where to slot it. I just recently learned of it myself. Removing Damnable Pact is definitely an option (theoretically the same slot). I guess I don't see how it best fits. Where were you thinking. Also, I've never actually heard of Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind until you posted it. Do you think it's too big though for Modern? I'm interested to see what you'd take out and slot in, in general.

mattman856, the Tezzeret the Schemer were really added as replacements to Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas (who I wont lie, I have a soft spot for). But to be honest, it hasn't faired well. I thought it'd be a good addition alongside making Fatal Push a little bit better when I needed it. Disciple of Deceit + Smuggler's Copter works great when it happens. The Kederekt Parasite also offers another early crew member for the vehicles. If it's speed the deck is worried about, it provides something there. I'm all for putting Fate Unraveler back into the board.

Tezzeret the Schemer can definitely come out. He's been meh.

Shade_Schwarz on Wreck you sir

2 months ago

I have replaced Reassembling Skeleton and Virulent Wound with Solemn Simulacrum and Damnable Pact for extra synergy and overall value. Damnable Pact may be seen as too niche in most cases, but it forces card draw and it's my deck. Sad Robot is Sad Robot and just good overall.

bophaybayquay on Draw, Discard, Die

2 months ago

Damnable Pact for sure. and perhaps Ob Nixilis Reignited

neither of them are too expensive either

LeaPlath on Nath of the Gilt-Leaf

2 months ago

Heritage Druid, Elvish Archdruid, Birchlore Rangers, Priest of Titania, Joraga Treespeaker let you turn your tokens into mana etc.

Nature's Lore, Assassinate, Bone Splinters, Death Stroke, Despise, Distress, Explore, Gruesome Discovery, Journey of Discovery, Mind Rot, Appetite for the Unnatural, Doom Blade, Druid's Deliverance, Gilt-Leaf Ambush, Naturalize, Seedling Charm, Spring Cleaning, Strength in Numbers, Vitalize, Prowess of the Fair, Wayfarer's Bauble, Deadbridge Shaman, Silhana Starfletcher can all be cut in my opinion. These cards are all low impact or just a bit eh, compared to what you can do.

Unnerve should be Syphon Mind.

Nullmage Shepherd lets to turn a swarm of tokens into repeatable removal.

If you want to go in hard on tokens, you also have Primal Vigor as another token doubler, Second Harvest as a single use doubler, Sylvan Offering as a massive token producer/political card you can take advantage of especially. Voice of the Woods turns tokens into yet more tokens.

Damnable Pact is a good draw x spell, which can be political, or can be used to burn someone to death. Weird Harvest is an interesting political option, that can let you win on the spot with enough ramp.

bellz76 on Prisoner of Fate - Budget Triad EDH

2 months ago

RE: souls sisters.. I feel that they really don't impact the game enough to include them, and they don't really further the goal of the deck. They aren't a very good top deck, and the life gain is minimal...

RE: Crusade: I still think the Crusade is worthwhile even with only a few token generators. I understand you lose the counter\ counters, but you're not usually flickering more than 2 creatures a turn- and if you keep flickering a single ticket the other creatures get big... and the Triad can get bigger too...

In general, in looking at your list, I think it needs more card drawing. I don't know how you recover from wipes, or even get to your money cards, or for that matter make land drops consistently. I know the Triad can help offset it some, but the only way you have to draw cards is the Disciple, Hedron Archive, and Read the Bones. You'll be in top deck mode the majority of the game. Someone earlier suggested Phyrexian Arena, which I think is ideal, but if it's not in the budget there are a ton of good black draw spells that are cheap- Moonlight Bargain is .33, Ambition's Cost is .20, or the same effect Ancient Craving .32, Damnable Pact is .37, and even Promise of Power .49. But these will all net you cards for life, but there's plenty of life gain to balance that out.

I would also recommend Solemn Simulacrum. He's a commander staple as ramp with the ETB effect and draws a card as well. Just a good value card.

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