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Players can't gain life.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player loses 1 life.
Whenever Forsaken Wastes becomes the target of a spell, that spell's controller loses 5 life.
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Forsaken Wastes Discussion
1 month ago
You should check out Vona, Butcher of Magan from the new set, I pulled him(?) in the Pre-release and really got a lot of use whenever I dropped him, he screamed EDH to me. Aetherflux Reservoir is a great hp sink in lifegain, I'd run it if you can!
Ashes of the Abhorrent also gained me a lot of life in the prerelease (which I paid in Arguel's Blood Fast, a damn good draw engine, even if unflippable in EDH). In EDH, the Ashes shuts down reanimation hard, which I notice you don't have a whole lot of, so cutting everyone else out helps you a lot. Greed is also a good draw on command engine.
Since you seem to be gaining so much life, I'd keep an eye out for enchantments like Havoc Festival, Everlasting Torment, Forsaken Wastes, Erebos, God of the Dead, etc. You probably need some more removal for them in the case they show up (which it's likely they will) and hose your deck. Run more enchantment removal to smash them out of existence.
2 months ago
@Shiek200 - I really like Trinisphere, Uba Mask, and Words of Waste! All seem pretty solid here. Also, I'd much prefer Sheoldred, Whispering One over Magus of the Abyss mostly because of sacrificing rather than destroying :P And yeah might as well add a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, why not!
@AlmightyTentacle - Forsaken Wastes and Fiery Confluence are pretty damn good here. I also agree with Toxic Deluge being the top black board wipe but with my experience with this deck, I need to keep as much life as I can lol. And I don't think I'm gonna be adding Pox anytime soon xD
3 months ago
Nice deck +1!
Here some cards I think you can consider to add in:
Forsaken Wastes - for more life gain hate.
Smoke - nice protection from creatures.
Harsh Mentor - can shut up many combo decks.
Pox - to complitly loose your friends >_<
Toxic Deluge - best creature whipe in black imho.
3 months ago
Let's say I have Transcendence and Forsaken Wastes in play. If I tutor via Razaketh, the Foulblooded would this result in not losing or gaining any life i.e. maintaining the status quo? or would I not be able to pay life?
7 months ago
Aggravated Assault - more attacks is always good
Dauthi Embrace - give Alesha shadow.
Fanatical Devotion - more instant speed sac and save Alesha from a nuke.
I also like to run Leyline of Punishment, Forsaken Wastes and Sulfuric Vortex to hose Oloro or any lifegain decks really. Although, wastes and vortex aren't currently in my Alesha build, they're still good cards FOR her.
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7 months ago
Erebos, God of the Dead is probably the best help against pesky life gain decks, for it does not prohibit you, as well as provide some card advantage.
8 months ago
I think you went overboard in response to Alxmhn1's comment about needing to fix your mana...idk ...this is the 1st and only time I've seen your list... I can say that 11 ramp cards is excessive..unless you're playing a landfall deck or something....i'd cut 3 of those. Additionally, you have 19 (GASP!) lands that etb tapped and 2 more that conditionally do/don't etb tapped....good gawd man. 6 etb tapped is preferable, 10 at the absolute most for even the most budget deck... you can use basics too you know :)
Your current weakest links appear to me to be Vision Skeins, Convolute, Sign in Blood and Servant of Tymaret.
Some other cards possibly worth considering; Everlasting Torment, Forsaken Wastes and/or Sulfuric Vortex .. don't know how popular lifegain decks are in your meta but I love having one deck that wreck's them. Fevered Visions, Ebony Owl Netsuke, Guard Gomazoa, Magus of the Wheel, Jushi Apprentice, Liliana's Caress are some of my favs...additionally Breathstealer's Crypt, with your low creature count can just break aggro decks with all your wheels. Another thought is Warped Devotion when combined with megrim/lili's caress + cards like AEtherize or Cyclonic Rift are brutal (and may cause table flips) if you wanna be that dickish.
anyways...hope this helps, gl & hf
9 months ago
Got here from your forum post...thoughts...
Kaervek the Merciless, Arc Blade, Palace Siege, Phthisis, Cryptolith Fragment Flip can all be interesting/good-ish, as well as Creeping Dread, Pyromancy and Sin Prodder if you add a little recursion. I'm also a fan of cards like Sulfuric Vortex, Forsaken Wastes, Everlasting Torment, and/or Erebos, God of the Dead in these kind of decks...
hope this helps, gl & hf