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(4), Tap, Discard your hand: Draw a card for each creature you control.
If you want board wipes, go with Austere Command /Wrath of God . The flexibility of Austere Command is a huge bonus, and Wrath of God, like was previously mentioned is just mana efficient. Planar Cleansing seems risky since you have 2 O-rings and a Chained to the Rocks.
I think you'll find that your deck will work a lot better if you play a lot of 2 drop mana rocks like Mind Stone , Fire Diamond , Marble Diamond , Coldsteel Heart , Boros Signet , Gold Myr , and Iron Myr to get your commander out on turn 3 and help you run your soldiers out on the field sooner.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight would be a major addition to this deck, I think. Also, this deck is really weak to board wipes, so Avacyn, Angel of Hope should probably be in here. Slate of Ancestry could help you draw a ton of cards, and discarding shouldn't be that big of a deal for you, you should run out of cards pretty quickly.
Last thing I would say is that you're playing a lot of standard cards, if I was you I would ask veteran players you talk to what some of their favorite old R/W creatures are for an aggro deck that aren't already in there. The great thing about Commander is the huge card pool, no reason to restrict yourself to cards that you know, just ask vets, they'll be flattered you're asking them =)
This version of Magic is based on a card game called mau. Any suggestion would be appreciated.
This is the most important rule: if there is somebody who has never played this way before, the only rule you can tell them is that you can't tell them any other rules.
To start, on person is to be chosen a the "Mau." The mau will then deal each person a hand of seven cards from each of their respective decks. If anybody looks at any of those cards, they are dealt another card. The players may only look at their cards once the mau states "the game of Magic Mau shall commence." If a player is to draw a card the Mau is to hand it to them. There is no maximum hand size.
There are no life totals. In order to win, you must either have no cards in your hand, have an effect that proclaims you the winner, or have all other players leave the game. A player can leave the game by conceding, getting 10 poison counters, or being milled out. If a player is unable to draw a card, they may shuffle all cards they own on the battlefield, in the graveyard, and in exile into that person's library. If they still can't draw a card, they are eliminated.
DAMAGE AND LIFE LOSE
Whenever you would deal damage to a player, the person you dealt damage to draws cards equal to the amount that would have been dealt damage to them, and you gain delay counters for each point of damage that would have been dealt. Whenever you would draw a card, remove a delay counter from yourself instead unless you have no delay counters on you. If a player would lose life, they are to draw cards equal to the life lost instead. If a player would gain life, that player instead gains delay counters equal to the amount of life gained.
You may only cast spells that either share a color or converted mana with the last spell that was casted. This does not apply to the first spell cast in a game.
There are a wide variety of penalties the Mau may give. Each penalty means making the violator draw a card. These are the following penalties:
-"Talking". If anybody talks in any fashion that that the rules allow, said person is punished. This includes making noises. If a card says to name a card, vote, or chose an option, that does not count towards the penalty.
-"Failure to say "have a nice day"". Whenever a player casts a card with the converted mana cost of 7, if they fail to say "have a nice day," they are to be punished. Saying "have a nice day" does not count towards the "unnecessary talking" rule.
-"Failure to say "mau"". Whenever a player has one card in their hand, if they do not say "mau", then they are penalized. This does not count towards the "unnecessary talking" rule. Cards that say that you have no maximum hand size make this affect undone. Cards that reduce maximum hand size do nothing.
-"Trying to be the mau". This penalty is given to any player who draws a card by themselves, awards penalties, or tries to change the rules.
-"Excessive/unfriendly hand gestures". Pretty self explanatory.
-"Not your turn". Also self explanatory
-"Hurry up". If a player who's turn it is does not do something for every 5 seconds of that turn, that person is penalized. If a player receives 3 of these penalties in a turn, their turn ends.
-"improper adherence to the rules as Mau". This is the only penalty a non-Mau can give, and can only be received by the Mau. If a Mau is not giving out penalties when necessary, falsely penalizing players, is not penalizing himself when necessary, or is not adhering to annother duty of his as Mau, the Mau is penalized.
-"wrong suit". Penalty is given to a player who casts a card that does not correspond with the converted mana cost or color of the last spell casted. After the card is drawn for the penalty, the spell that violated this rule is then countered and returned to it's owners hand instead of going to that player's graveyard.
A Mau is allowed to make penalties of his own. The Mau must announce that he is making a penalty, but the Mau is not allowed to announce what the penalty is. If any player finds a certain penalty unfair, that player is allowed to flip the table, showing that that player is unsatisfied with the rules, is leaving the game, and that the game has probably ended.
The minimum deck size is 80 cards, but there is no maximum deck size except that the player with the deck must be able to shuffle his or her deck without assistance. The maximum amount of a certain card in a deck is determined by how many sets that card was printed in. For example, Thragtusk was only printed in M13, you can only have one of it in your deck. However, because Thran Dynamo was printed in Urza's Destiny, Archenemy, and FTV:20, you could put 3 in your deck. when in doubt, check gatherer.
This is the banned list:Black Lotus
eramakul, the aeons torn
First and foremost, welcome back to the Magic community!
Next, this isn't Standard Legal lol. This is Legacy legal, but you're probably best listing it as Casual format. Anywho, one thing to always keep in mind as a deck builder is to build what you like. Trust me, this little notion alone makes building so much easier because if you don't like a card, you just don't use it. Ultimately, this game is for fun and you should enjoy what you have, and the best way to enjoy your deck is to build something you really like. And note that my advice is all what I would do with this kind of deck.
Now that we have that nonsense cleared up, let's get to the good stuff, shall we?
General:First thing's first, your ideal deck size is going to be 60, so you'll need to cut some cards. As a general rule, and doubly so when making a Tribal deck, you want to get an idea in mind and shape your deck to that idea, a focus, if you will. For mono-Green Elves, you're probably going to want a plan like "Build up mana and vomit out as many Elves as possible and kill". We'll get into refining your deck later on, but for now the cards I recommend you cut are as follows:
Defiant Elf - I know, Trample is beast when he gets buffed up, but in Tribal you want teamwork to be a thing among your creatures. This guy doesn't really do much teamwork.
Elvish Aberration - High cost elves generally aren't good since Elf is a swarm tribe. Once you have the mana to play this guy, his mana ability is almost redundant.
Elvish Vanguard - He buffs up from Elves coming in, which is nice, but when you have 15+ Elves on the field swinging, his power isn't really necessary.
Immaculate Magistrate - It's cool to ramp your creatures' power/toughness one at a time, but she doesn't do a whole lot when you want to swarm.
Sylvan Primordial - Not an Elf.
Deserted Temple - You shouldn't be too worried about untapping land with land. The Temple is great, but not for this deck. You're going to rely more on creatures for mana.
Gaea's Cradle - Outstanding and broken land, but also ridiculously pricey. If you have 3 of the Cradles already, then go for it and disregard this.
Llanowar Reborn - In Elves you can't really afford slow lands like this. Speed is everything.
Thawing Glaciers - Refer to above.
Blanchwood Armor - Makes one creature really big, which doesn't really end well in my experience.
Bow of Nylea - While being fun in Junk decks, the bow doesn't do a lot for Elves. You're better off with bone crushing power than Deathtouch.
Leyline of Vitality - It doesn't really help Elves. This is designed more for a Control-oriented deck.
Primeval Bounty - Great card, but alas, not for Elves. It's too slow because when you have the mana, you need ways to spend it to go into a snowball effect and crush your opponent underfoot.
Chord of Calling - Chord of Ballin' is badass, but what you'll want is to draw or drop your deck instead of bringing out one creature with a card of this nature.
Akroma's Memorial - While being hilarious in a Treefolk deck, the Memorial doesn't help Elves much. You'll be burying people under piles of Elves. No need for them to fly.
Gauntlet of Power - Neat, but isn't useful outside EDH. You don't want to risk helping your opponent.
This cuts 26 cards thus far, which now leaves us room to add some good stuff while refining what's left. Note that I may recommend you take more cards out to make room for others.
Elvish Harbinger - Nice for unjamming your deck if you get bad draws, but the longer the game goes on, the less useful she gets. -1
Heedless One - While I have said multiple times that "teamwork" needs to be a thing, this gal kinda does teamwork. Big swing and trample. What's not to love? I'm a little partial here because I have a soft spot for creatures that are part of cycles (Doubtless One , Nameless One , Soulless One , and Reckless One are the others in that cycle). This one is up in the air.
Heritage Druid - Great in combo Elves, not so much outside. -1
Joraga Warcaller - Excellent, especially in swarm Elves. +1
Llanowar Elves - You don't really need both Llanowar and Mystic. Use a playset of one.
Priest of Titania - This gal here has made Elf decks run forever. For that alone, you should have at least 3, if not the playset. +2 or +3
Timberwatch Elf - When I was a little tyke, I saw Timby turn a lot of games in favor of the Elves. Unfortunately, he relies on one big creature (works well with Heedless One ). Timby could work, but it would take some effort. Here again I leave it up to you.
Voice of the Woods - Really cool guy here, but in my experience he's more of a "rich get richer" kind of card. -1
Wellwisher - Staple in Elves. 5, however, is illegal. -1
Lands: Counting the lands I recommend you drop earlier, you're currently at 24 total land (20 Forest , 3 Gaea's Cradle , and 1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx ). Generally, since Elves vomit out mana you can cut some land out of the deck. I'd drop 5 or 6 forest and call it good. This will bring you to 18 or 19 land.
Elvish Guidance - Amazing card. Mana ramp like a boss. +1
Naturalize - Depending on how paranoid you are over Artifacts/Enchantments, you may want another 1 or 2. This is all dependent upon the people you play with.
Afterthought: Cut the Elvish Mystic /Llanowar Elves in favor of Arbor Elf just because Arbor can untap a Forest with Elvish Guidance for super mana ramp shenanigans. I don't really feel like scrolling up and down right now, so bear with me.
Sideboard: Forget everything there. If you're really attached to Ambush Commander , then keep him because he IS good. I personally am just paranoid about some bastard playing Reiver Demon while I'm tapped out and knocking me out of the game. The Commander can also do quite well in the Elfikaze (Elf kamikaze)
Next, you're going to need some badass Elves to replace the ones I recommended you toss. Luckily, I've gotten my ass kicked by my older brother's Elf deck more than enough times to know good Elves when I see them.
Imperious Perfect - While she may be a little slow to use, she is fantastic if you're off to a slower start. She's also a great way to vomit out Elves. +4
Lys Alana Huntmaster - More Elves +3
Rhys the Redeemed - Elves...Elves everywhere... +1
Slate of Ancestry - This is what made old Elf deck kick into high gear. Draw a ton of cards and play them all in one swoop, then if you have enough creatures untapped, swing for game (assuming you dropped a Coat of Arms ). You'll probably only activate the Slate once or twice, but that's about all you'll ever need. +3
Steely Resolve - Since I run stupid amounts of removal in ALL my decks, I'm paranoid about someone Terror ing my Priest of Titania . It also flies the bird to Burn decks, which are the bane of Elves. +3
At this point, you've got a great library of cards to work with and have the tools to improve your own deck further. I've just given you a general idea of what to do, but I can't tell you how to make your deck. Worst-case scenario: you can always look up other Elf decks on TappedOut and see what other people have done. If you'd like, here's mine: Exile and Redemption. I hope all this does some good for you!
Once again, welcome back to Magic.
Mind's Eye (this is amazing)
I'm having trouble with card draw in red in my deck, Slobad, Goblin Junker EDH. I routinely manage to burn through my hand in no time and drawing only a single of my draw spells seems insufficient. I have these in it specifically to address this:
I'd like to know if anyone has any other suggestions for red card draw or colorless red-friendly draw. It doesn't have to be particularly suited to the deck I linked, I have a fondness for red and would like to hear your suggestions anyway.
hey there! I wouldn't say the the Rhys you have chosen is too unusual tbh ;-). Personally I would run more removal, often overlooked stuff that is dirt cheap like Rend Flesh for example, the conditionality of it is almost ignorable. Murder is cheap and awesome, maybe Hero's Downfall but that is more pricey ofc. But then you do have Demonic Tutor :-P. I always love Phyrexian Arena in black, and also I would at least add Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord to the deck cuz hes awesome! I would maybe add more card draw given that your deck is made up of little dudes, Mind's Eye is my favourite and mega powerful but again, is a little pricey. Collective Unconscious is good though, as Grim Flowering might be. I figure with you having lots of little guys, you need to draw alot to play them! I also favour Wild Pair in decks like this as your stuff is potentiall all 2 for 1. maybe even Slate of Ancestry in this deck too. I would also, last but not least, at have one proper fully fledge wrath just in case. The most accessible cost wise would be Life's Finale .
Stuff I might remove for my suggestions however...hmmm.... maybe Sol Ring as you don't really need it in this deck, Abrupt Decay is too limited in EDH IMO and needs to be something better. I would remove cream of the crop and quest for renewal as they only have like 3 targets for all that mana and they just aren't worth the slots. That or add more x stuff to take advantage of all your mana. Maybe something like Chameleon Colossus who is technically an elf, Corrosive Gale would be good as you are light on flying defence. I will stop tying now and see how you do or don't like my suggestions. If you would like any further help, i am happy to oblige
Mana Vault , Grim Monolith , Clock of Omens and especially Voltaic Construct since you can untap any ting with karn and go infinite mana with any 3 mana producing artifact. Also Temporal Aperture and Slate of Ancestry good for progressing faster in the game
Thank you for the suggestions. I took a look at your deck as well and there are a lot of similarities. Prossh is a fantastic general and certain cards work very VERY well with him. I was running Staff of Nin before but decided to cut it as I thought I could find a cheaper card for draw. I run Fecundity , Harmonize , and my newest and most favorite draw engine Slate of Ancestry . I was skeptical about the slate at first, but WOW! It puts in work. Being able to refill my hand and then play the cards and do it again turn after turn is ridiculous in this deck. As for Deadbridge Chant , I used to run it as well, until two things happened that made me take it out. First two of the people i play with made opponent graveyard abusal decks and I don't want to give them a variety of targets. Second they both play Bloodchief Ascension . If that card is on the battlefield and i have a deadbridge chant in hand, chances are I won't be playing it. I was also running Dragon Broodmother before but people began to complain that in a 4-6 player game "each upkeep" is a little too out of control. It made me get targeted and recieve much hate anytime i played it, or someone could take control of it and they would gain a significant advantage, so i just decided to take it out. I actually really like Deathreap Ritual and may have to take something out in order to play around with it. Thank you again for the suggestions!
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