Slate of Ancestry
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Slate of Ancestry Discussion
3 days ago
Slate of Ancestry is currently considered. Recent playtests have had me hellbent more often than not.
Garruk, Primal Hunter is someone I really want to like especially for the "Oops, here come the Wurms" ultimate. But I don't think it's really for this deck.
4 days ago
I keep hearing/reading that people think green has trouble drawing cards. Sure, it can't really compete with blue, and you can certainly argue black comes in second, but green has great card advantage options as well. In my eyes, used correctly, they can be even better than most black tools (with the exceptions of Ad Nauseam and Necropotence which are both insane). I'm not going to go into detail, but just list you some green card advantage: Sylvan Library, Glimpse of Nature, Harmonize, Fecundity, Skullmulcher, Greater Good, Garruk, Primal Hunter, Genesis Wave, Soul of the Harvest, Primordial Sage, Recycle, Regal Force, Shamanic Revelation, Rishkar's Expertise, Praetor's Counsel, Seasons Past, Vizier of the Menagerie. Also, you have access to colorless cards like Mind's Eye, Memory Jar, Skullclamp, Horn of Greed and Slate of Ancestry. Obviously most of those cards require specific circumstances to work, like a high powered creature, a big number of creatures or lots of mana. Just select the ones that fit what your deck is trying to do and test to find the right number.
1 week ago
Dig the budget Shirei, have you considered Jar of Eyeballs? It works quite well in the more artifact centered shirei deck i'm making: The recursion life, with a tweest, it can get ridiculous at times having near 30 eyeball counters on it, it's basically a tutor! Slate of Ancestry is an interesting add, its giving me some ideas...
3 weeks ago
i hadnt considered Scroll Rack before, mostly for cost, but since im starting to put a little more money into this deck i think i might actually be okay with running it. i think it would be really solid, though i might pitch Skullclamp for it instead. (i just havent been getting any real use out of clamp, mostly because i have enough anthems that i rarely have anything with 1 toughness that i can clamp)
i actually really like Oblation, and ill definitely consider it since its pretty versatile instant speed interaction or carddraw when i need it. Slate of Ancestry has been situationally /very/ good for me, but usually only when i already have a dominant boardstate, so going for oblation probably isnt the wrong choice.
i tried running Sun Titan, and ended up cutting it because, at the time, i only had about a dozen targets for it. however, since adding cards like Mind Stone, Grasp of Fate, and the smaller aggressive creatures ive put in, i think bringing titan back is a good call. im not sure about cutting anthem, though. its a big mana investment, yes, but if it resolves it can singlehandedly bring me back from a devastating boardwipe.
im running Palladium Myr in this deck as a second copy of Worn Powerstone, basically, and the body it provides hasnt been a bad thing, in my experience. that said, Caged Sun is undoubtedly better. ill probably pick one up soon.
i cut o ring for Grasp of Fate pretty recently, since its strictly better and still does what i want (a tutorable answer to just about any problem), and the deck is purposefully board-control light in favor of more consistant threats. i was intending to cut Mentor of the Meek for Mind's Eye, probably, since, again, the amount of anthems in this deck (including my commander) makes both mentor and clamp much harder to get value out of.
4 weeks ago
Few changes to tighten up the deck some more.
Goblin Offensive out for Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker: Offensive was great when I had a huge proc of Mana Echoes, but when I didn't have then (almost always) it was just a very inefficient token spell that I never used. Kiki-Jiki will be able to clone all those token generating creatures, and the powerful creatures with ETB effects like Goblin Matron. Only 6 of my creatures can't be copied by him, and most of those would be less useful with a copy anyway.
Slate of Ancestry out for Farsight Mask: This is an experimental change, but should result in more consistent draw without making me discard a lot like slate is currently doing. I just don't have enough red mana to keep with it. At worst it discourages players from attacking me, which also helps.
Altar of the Brood out for Illusionist's Bracers: Although Altar is very, very strong in this deck, it also got me an huge amount of hate. If I had more mill mechanics I might keep it, but until then it is sideboarded. I never thought to add the Bracers to this deck because I mistakenly thought that Rings of Brighthearth was strictly better. Once I finally read Bracers I couldn't believe I was missing out on double procs on both of Ib's abilities, or being able to throw them on Burnished Hart, Goblin Chirurgeon, Goblin Welder, Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, Krenko, Mob Boss, Mogg Catcher, Purphoros, God of the Forge, Sensation Gorger (althought I'm not sure if it would net you 8 cards for one discarded hand?), or Slobad, Goblin Tinkerer. Put Bracers on all the things!
Hoarding Dragon out for Sensation Gorger: While I would love to be able to consistently tutor out Crucible of Worlds or another powerful artifact, this dragon is just too expensive and too slow. I also can't guarantee that I would be able to get rid of him to get the artifact in hand, and then I still have to cast it. Instead, I am going to go with Sensation Gorger to increase the already improving card draw.
Goblin Warrens out for Goblin Matron: This was a hard card, and maybe not a permanent one, but now that I am replacing some effects with their "On A Stick" goblin variant, I need to better be able to tutor them. I also have multiple ways to copy this ETB effect, which is great.
Voracious Dragon out for Expedition Map: Not a straight trade in any regard, I just realized that the dragon better be used as a finisher, or else it can be pretty counter-intuitive to the rest of the deck. My meta is also very flyer heavy, so it was easy for that huge flyer to be chump blocked by my opponents. Being able to fetch a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle, Cavern of Souls for a Krenko cast, a Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx for more ramp, or a Strip Mine is really nice. Plus I can recur the Map fairly easily.
I am still trying to find space, or determine the necessity of, the cards in the sideboard.
As always, looking for any comments, criticisms, or unique card interactions that I may not have considered!
4 weeks ago
Goldnight Commander can be used to abuse them ETB triggers.
You can also try out Jade Monolith for the same reasons as Crypt and Vault.
Evangel of Heliod and Crusader of Odric are always nice. So are Door of Destinies, Akroma's Memorial, Eldrazi Monument, and Coat of Arms, although the last few make this deck more on the competitive side of things.
1 month ago
I love the synergy between Tana & Sidar...I think these two were made for each other more so than any other 2 partners.
Beyond that I think you got lost....Single target pump spells / bloodrush effects and the like are horrible in multiplayer games....unless this is intended solely for 1 v 1, I'd say ditch ALL of them. Aside from Intangible Virtue I wouldn't put any other static effect Anthems in either...once you get your tokens to be bigger than 2/2 then you just lost all synergy with Sidar...and have defeated yourself. Collective Blessing, Gaea's Anthem > out.
Creatures / Spells that will only ever give you 1 token (in addition to the creature that comes with it) also not that effective. Again unless this is 1 vs 1. Attended Knight and Tukatongue Thallid and such...out...
Deckbuilding for edh: When I build an edh deck, I too just start throwing cards at it, then cut lots then try to figure out how much ramp I need, and how much card draw I need, and how much removal I'm going to put in. These three things I put in pretty much EVERY deck. I may not run much but at least a little. (I'm only seeing a few of each on your list) After I get things balanced out and make my cuts I work the land base usually 35-39 lands depending on the deck/mana curve, amount of ramp ect. This deck I'd say 36-37 lands.
I'm not going to price check all the following recomendations, but bear in mind the tcg prices on this site doesn't account for different / older prints / damaged card discounts ect, though a few still might be 20 cents over your budget, but I'm gonna list them anyways.
Cheap removal: (keep Pacifism if you must pick 3-5 here also) Revoke Existence, Fate Forgotten, Oblation, Terastodon, Smash to Smithereens, Entrapment Maneuver, Desert Twister, Scour from Existence ... there's several others but still this is a descent selection...
Cheap Card Draw: There really isn't much in the way in these colors to begin with, even less on your budget... maybe throw Faithless Looting a few cards that give you the Monarch like Protector of the Crown and or Crown-Hunter Hireling and get a Skullclamp and maybe a Slate of Ancestry once you can find/trade for/afford one (they're only $1.50 tops)
Cheap Efficient Token Gen: You got a few good ones already a few more worth mentioning, Decree of Justice, Sporemound, Ezuri's Predation, Twilight Drover, and again...maybe later add Rith, the Awakener and or Sigarda, Heron's Grace.
Cheap Pump: Aside from Borrowed Grace, which you could leave in or not, you really only need a few good GLOBAL pump spells spells for finishers. Usually I'd suggest something like Beastmaster Ascension, but in this case again...no synergy with Sidar. I'd probably throw Titanic Ultimatum and Overwhelming Stampede (stronger 1x use versions of Overrun) and also throw a Leonin Sun Standard at the deck for repeated use/abuse after declare blockers step. Those three alone should probably do it.
Cheap Land Base: Aside from basics there are quite a few good lands to run in budget builds in the case of a Naya deck, you've already listed Jungle Shrine (I'd ditch the bounceland), there's also Naya Panorama, Rugged Highlands, Blossoming Sands, Wind-Scarred Crag, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse. I'd run every one of these, and then basics for the rest. (Again, 36-37 total lands for this deck.)
Yea...so ...holy wall of text Batman, hope some of it helps, gl & hf
1 month ago
here is a pretty broken one for your sliver deck: