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Kicker (Red) (You may pay an additional (Red) as you play this spell.)
If the kicker cost was paid, Molten Disaster has split second. (As long as this spell is on the stack, players can't play spells or activated abilities that aren't mana abilities.)
Molten Disaster deals X damage to each creature without flying and each player.
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Molten Disaster Discussion
4 weeks ago
I'm currently doing something similar with my copy of the pre-con and though I bounce back and forth between Scion and The Ur-Dragon himself, I inevitably lean towards the battle-cruiser style in both builds.
Regarding the mana-base, I've found that focusing primarily on all the "Red" lands works pretty well for me.
This provides numerous opportunities to grab the colors needed to cast all dragons while keeping all the great Fire Breathing dragons relevant.
I also add in all the budget 5 color lands that I can manage - Rupture Spire and Transguild Promenade are great. A lot of people look down on them and refuse to use them but like you, I also don't want to spend a mortgage payment on the land base.
Forbidden Orchard is relevant since your flyers don't particularly care about 1/1 grounded tokens, but still is not as budget friendly as the others I've listed so far. Still, better than a lot of the options out there.
Aside from the mana-base. Haste + Big dragons is great. I skipped Dragonlord Kolaghan for a long time but having finally slotted him into the deck for a test run, he promptly won me a game and I can confirm he's pretty much worth the slot - Being much more budget friendly than Karthas.
Temur Ascendancy is another multi-function haste enabler that's very budget friendly.
Keiga, the Tide Star and the other Kamigawa dragons all just got a reprint and are way better in Ur-Dragon than in Scion.
It's expensive but I'm personally running a Cyclonic Rift. That's an easy one, but there are lots of other great options that synergize with your dragons in the same way Earthquake does. Magmaquake and Molten Disaster are great includes here.
I've won games with Rite of Replication - which is great even in a vacuum since you can target your opponent's creatures. The more Legendary Dragons you run though, the worse it becomes and it's not exactly dirt cheap so your mileage may vary.
3 months ago
Hey, this looks like a great deck! I really like Neheb, the Eternal as a commander. +1!
The combo-potential between Neheb, the Eternal and cards like Fury of the Horde is just over 9000!!! The mana you generate with him stacks up with every extra combat step. So why don't you also play Relentless Assault and Seize the Day? World at War does only work in the first postcombat mainphase but would still be nice. Savage Beating can only be cast in the combat phase, so you cannot use the mana from Neheb, the Eternal to cast it. Maybe it should leave therefore.
Another idea would be to include cards that give your commander flying, so that he won't get killed by cards like Molten Disaster anymore. You could include Fleetfeather Sandals or Akroma's Memorial. This way you could also play Earthquake in your deck. If you manage to give him horsemanship, you could also include Rolling Earthquake ;).
3 months ago
Also, you could upgrade your x-burn spells with Comet Storm and Fall of the Titans and trade Inferno/Fire Tempest for something likeRolling Earthquake/Earthquake/Fault Line/Molten Disaster ect. (does that same thing but better/more flexible)
If you are looking for stuff to take out I would start with Sun Droplet (seems real slow and super bad at what it does) Bosium Strip (would rather just draw cards instead of taxing myself 3 mana, this deck probably won't be casting more than 1 spell of the strip per turn at best) Lightning Bolt/Lightning Strike/Volt Charge (not a lot of impact in EDH, 3 damage just isn't that much) Searing Flesh (for similar reasons just put in another x-burn spell) Spellbook (you don't seem to be drawing that many cards) Mind's Desire (storm count would be really low most of the time since copying doesn't count towards storm count)
4 months ago
This is quite beautiful, LeoSushi!
ENGAGE WRACKING BRAIN FOR SIMILARLY THEMED CARDZ....BEEEeeeeEEPP bOOOp....
Until next time, cheers!
4 months ago
Cascading Cataracts / Crystal Quarry / Sylvan Ranger / Rampant Growth / Bloom Tender / Birds of Paradise / Sylvan Caryatid / Utopia Tree / Reflecting Pool / Oblivion Ring / Gruul Signet / Golgari Signet / Simic Signet / Selesnya Signet / Bringer of the Red Dawn / Bringer of the Blue Dawn / Bringer of the Black Dawn / Unclaimed Territory / Cavern of Souls / Keiga, the Tide Star / Breath of Darigaaz / Nissa's Pilgrimage / Explosive Vegetation / Molten Disaster / Subterranean Tremors / Ash Barrens / Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse / Sudden Demise / Fault Line / Beast Within / Dragonlord Dromoka / Sylvan Reclamation / Wear / Tear / Grand Coliseum / City of Brass / Mana Confluence / Fellwar Stone / Solemn Simulacrum / Farhaven Elf / Wood Elves / Heartless Summoning / Urza's Incubator / Sensei's Divining Top / Cyclonic Rift / Reclamation Sage / Urban Evolution / Nature's Lore / Eternal Witness / Skyshroud Claim / Chaos Warp / Manglehorn / Vizier of the Menagerie / Relic of Progenitus / Chromatic Sphere / Chromatic Star / Terrarion / Llanowar Wastes / Shivan Reef / Yavimaya Coast / Karplusan Forest / Sulfurous Springs / Battlefield Forge / Brushland / Caves of Koilos / Night's Whisper / Reanimate / Anguished Unmaking / Swords to Plowshares / Path to Exile / Flame Slash / Vindicate / Sarkhan's Triumph / Preordain / Ponder / Brainstorm / Anticipate / Weathered Wayfarer / Safewright Quest / Temple Garden / Breeding Pool / Overgrown Tomb / Stomping Ground / Mirari's Wake / Nature's Claim / Fatal Push / Thunder Dragon / Scourge of Kher Ridges / Skyline Despot / Siege Dragon / Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund / Foe-Razer Regent / Eternal Dragon / Dragonlord Atarka / Balefire Dragon / Vorosh, the Hunter / Swift Warkite / Scourge of the Throne / Runehorn Hellkite / Rith, the Awakener / Prossh, Skyraider of Kher / Numot, the Devastator / Noxious Dragon / Mordant Dragon / Harmonize / Ancient Craving / Ambition's Cost / Dragonlord Silumgar / Dragonlord Kolaghan / Destructor Dragon / Darigaaz, the Igniter / Surrak Dragonclaw / Stormbreath Dragon / Sarkhan Unbroken / Necromaster Dragon / Icefall Regent / Hunted Dragon / Glorybringer / Fearsome Awakening / Dragonlord Ojutai / Boltwing Marauder / Thunderbreak Regent / Territorial Hellkite / Skyship Stalker / Dragonloft Idol / Dragon Throne of Tarkir / Dragonsoul Knight / Dragonmaster Outcast / Slumbering Dragon / Omen / Serum Visions / Read the Bones
4 months ago
But honestly I'm willing to take 1 damage per card. I'm certain I can find removal before I die to it, heh.
5 months ago
Unfocused or slow pieces: Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter, Alesha, Who Smiles at Death, Managorger Hydra, Taurean Mauler (both this and the hydra seem good in EDH, but in practice they just die to removal), Tireless Tracker (there's better card draw for token decks), Thelonite Monk (???), Genesis (Ravos, Soultender is better at that. You have no way to actively put Genesis in the grave or dump other creatures into the grave to get back. Too passive to wait for natural attrition.), Samut, Voice of Dissent. Cut Nissa, Voice of Zendikar.
Cards to upgrade (try similar function, but better): Crackling Doom should just be a better 4-5 mana board wipe. Hour of Devastation is too situational. Can't wipe the board of all your tokens but leave opponents with 10/10's. Using Hour to kill indestructible gods? Try Merciless Eviction instead. Bonfire of the Damned, because miracles never happen. Lavalanche as well, since these 2 cards hit 1 target player. Get X damage to everyone. Earthquake isn't bad. But Molten Disaster is what I'd use in a control heavy meta.
Cards to add: Basically search up the best Voltron commanders and jam them in a big gang behind Saskia. Like the League of Supervillians or something. Zurgo Helmsmasher, Basandra, Battle Seraph, Aurelia, the Warleader, Queen Marchesa, and Kresh the Bloodbraided are some to consider. With Kresh, and any deck with an abundance of tokens, you need cards like Skullclamp which you have. But maybe experiment with this cheap card: Evolutionary Leap, which can keep the big beaters coming when you don't need another 2 lands from the clamp. Or if lands is what you need, Perilous Forays grabs the new Zendikar lands (Canopy Vista) conveniently. Following the sacrifice theme, Fallen Ideal can send Saskia to the skies for some 20+ damage, which bounces around the table with Saskia's triggered ability. The Rancor effect is welcome too. Emmara Tandris has a big butt, but I think too slow. But also cheap to pick up. Up to you. Intangible Virtue might help.
Cards you REALLY need though: Overwhelming Stampede, Pathbreaker Ibex, Craterhoof Behemoth, even Overrun. These cards are WHY you play tokens. Also, since you're running Sunforger (props to you), add Path to Exile or Swords to Plowshares. Also I always include Wild Ricochet when I use Sunforger. Make sure you know how to properly counter spells with this "red counterspell" though. Otherwise a great copier. Oh, and add the other two signets you're missing.
So I told you to add more than to take out. Use your own discretion on how many Overruns you need in your deck, how much single target removal (whenever you take out someone else's threat, you're helping the rest of the table for free) you want, and how many beat-down creatures you need to lead the army (basically, you want the big creatures to be scary enough that opponents block those and let the flood of tokens through). Don't touch the land count. A good rule of thumb is (40 lands) - (# of artifact, spell-based, or creature ramp) / 3 = (lands you need).
5 months ago
Thanks for the kind words Podma101! Mana doublers are great, but what I've discovered so far is that they're totally unnecessary wasted card slots in this deck. As you've noted yourself, Neheb can already generate such incredible amounts of mana that you can end up running out of cards to play. In that case, the mana doublers will serve no further purpose other than letting you reliably recast Neheb. Hopefully the deck will run smooth enough that that won't be a problem, but we'll see how it evolves with more testing. There's a good amount of card draw/advantage in here specifically because you can burn through your hand really quickly. And the only other X spell I want to include is Molten Disaster. I'm generally not a fan of X spells as they feel fairly boring and unsatisfying to win with. I'd rather play Coalhauler Swine+Stuffy Doll+Fortune Thief+Eldrazi Monument+Furnace of Rath into Blasphemous Act and watch all my opponents explode for 1 haha
Also, I love Leyline of Punishment and tried to run it, but I realized quickly that it nixed my protection from red coming from Akroma's Memorial and the two Swords of X and Y, which are key pieces to keeping my limited creatures from getting wiped out by my own symmetrical burn smells.