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Players can't gain life.
Damage can't be prevented.
All damage is dealt as though its source had wither. (A source with wither deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)
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Everlasting Torment Discussion
3 days ago
I think you went overboard in response to Alxmhn1's comment about needing to fix your mana...idk ...this is the 1st and only time I've seen your list... I can say that 11 ramp cards is excessive..unless you're playing a landfall deck or something....i'd cut 3 of those. Additionally, you have 19 (GASP!) lands that etb tapped and 2 more that conditionally do/don't etb tapped....good gawd man. 6 etb tapped is preferable, 10 at the absolute most for even the most budget deck... you can use basics too you know :)
Your current weakest links appear to me to be Vision Skeins, Convolute, Sign in Blood and Servant of Tymaret.
Some other cards possibly worth considering; Everlasting Torment, Forsaken Wastes and/or Sulfuric Vortex .. don't know how popular lifegain decks are in your meta but I love having one deck that wreck's them. Fevered Visions, Ebony Owl Netsuke, Guard Gomazoa, Magus of the Wheel, Jushi Apprentice, Liliana's Caress are some of my favs...additionally Breathstealer's Crypt, with your low creature count can just break aggro decks with all your wheels. Another thought is Warped Devotion when combined with megrim/lili's caress + cards like AEtherize or Cyclonic Rift are brutal (and may cause table flips) if you wanna be that dickish.
anyways...hope this helps, gl & hf
3 days ago
You're already in b/r, so Stromkirk Captain will make those vamps work hard. I like the fall of the hammer effects, but I'd like to see more Everlasting Torment/Corrosive Mentor/Necroskitter/Bloodlord of Vaasgoth/Mephidross Vampire shenanigans. Death Pits of Rath/Endless Whispers has potential, as does Shriveling Rot. Vampire Cutthroat/Indulgent Aristocrat will make the whole list more traditional and stable.
4 days ago
Pulse of the Forge and Flames of the Blood Hand aren't great, however Everlasting Torment can be a lot of fun, is useful and should be maindecked. In such a low cost deck Shard Volley is worth considering.
My only other concern is how you deal with enchantments, particularly the Leyline ones you only have 1 bounce spell Echoing Truth that can do this. You probably need that ability more than Vapor Snag.
1 week ago
Martyr of Sands, Sun Droplet, Sunbeam Spellbomb, and Disenchant are all cards that might have a place in this deck, At the very least I recommend some enchantment removal to deal with the occasional Leyline of Punishment of Everlasting Torment etc.
3 weeks ago
I've had this list kicking around a while Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox- glad to see someone is putting together a primer.
Heartless Summoning enables higher CMC play- especially with a full set of kalitas.
Devour Flesh is a decent sideboard card against burn when running creature aggro, and a good non-lifelink lifegain source.
Diregraf Colossus is a notable zombie card and decent beastick,
Everlasting Torment helps fight through lifegain and thrun.
Mimic Vat plays merry hell with regular tron, and has the added bonus of interacting with an opponents graveyard using a replacement effect- handy for those Kitchen Finks. Nantuko Husk sees fringe play in zombie builds.
Fulminator Mage is a three drop.
Memory Plunder is an insane answer to snapcaster/cryptic, and solid against anything that casts big spells (reversing a living end combo).
Panharmonicon deserves a mention for more midrange black, enabling some insane play on decks that survive casting it.
You should probably seperate out the x cost cards- Killing Wave/Damnable Pact/Profane Command aren't really meant to be cast for low values of x, and people looking for that slot are likely to miss them.
White splash is strong in vampire/control builds for access to Blood Baron of Vizkopa, Tithe Drinker, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad,Sorin, Solemn Visitor and the ubiquitus removal suite. Green also gives important access to Collected Company(where Temporal Extortion isn't good enough) and Lotleth Troll, a mainstay for gravecrawler shenanigans and etb stuff.
Anything else I can think of would be specific cards for specific decks. One thing that always shocks my opponents is the sheer versatility you can pack into a black fifteen card sideboard- something transformative to handle bad matchups (graveyard and tron) really does change the shape of your evening, although decklist knowledge will allow players to play around this when the decklists are available, at any other time you can absolutely change the shape of your game. 'side 15' is a real thing.
1 month ago
This looks like a fun deck! Well done.
In decks like this I love to include Everlasting Torment to make it a bit easier to go off of I'm against protection decks.
1 month ago
Love the name. But where are the Everlasting Torments and Wound Reflection? The spell base in general struck me as weaker. You should have Blasphemous Act and a few more wipes. And damage doublers like Dictate of the Twin Gods and Furnace of Rath can be double edged but very effective. Painful Quandary embodies this deck. Make every decision painful and you should choke out a win!
1 month ago
Sideboard should consist of useful spells against different decks.
Banefire vs blue
Everlasting Torment vs lifegain. skullcrack is nice, but against real lifegain deck it won't be enough.
Overall, nice deck, but you need an adequate sideboard. Just random spot removal cards of different color to call it 4 color won't cut it.
+1 for Burn fun