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Players can't gain life.
Damage can't be prevented.
All damage is dealt as though its source had wither. (A source with wither deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)
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Everlasting Torment Discussion
1 week ago
I really doubt the "this damage can't be prevented" cards were indicative of a planned rules change. It's just a rider added to red cards every once in a while to give them a little more upside. If it were a sign of something bigger then we should have seen it on some black cards as well, but the only example is the B/R hybrid Everlasting Torment.
1 week ago
A lot of the creatures with Wither can also be useful. Boggart Ram-Gang comes to mind.
The same goes for Infect. Glistener Elf, Phyrexian Vatmother, Ichorclaw Myr, Inkmoth Nexus, Phyrexian Crusader, Flensermite, and Phyrexian Hydra are probably the ones on-curve. I'd be wary of Infect, though, because it means you're trying to win via both poison counters and regular damage. You could also fall into the trap of being just a really bad Infect deck. Glistening Oil might offset this to some degree, but it's not very good on its own compared to just jamming in more creatures.
3 weeks ago
MagickedOne: Do whatever you think is more suited for your play group if you want to take out a combo. I personally use leyline to hate on more graveyard based decks and threw in the helm for shits and giggles but I don't actively search out the combo unless the game has taken too long and people just want it to end.I myself have contemplated about taking out helm and leyline for The Scorpion God and Everlasting Torment as a synergistic combo. And no, I don't mind that you built it, that's why it's on tappedout, for either improvement and/or inspire others to build one similiar to it. By far this is my pride and joy seeing how it began as a tribal deck and just progressed into a more control and voltron esque deck over the four years I've had it.
3 weeks ago
Thankyou so much Oloro_Magic!! Your answer is so in-depth and useful :)I will get to buying and play-testing the mentioned cards and update accordingly!
4 weeks ago
Oloro_Magic Thankyou for the suggestions! I didn't even know about those graveyard hate cards!
Typically I've found there to be alot of mono-blue and blue-red control decks.
Also now Im curious as to why geralf is bad, I thought he would work well with Everlasting Torment. Also what would you replace him with? More land, creatures or other spells?
4 weeks ago
I much prefer Indulgent Aristocrat or Gifted Aetherborn to Kalastria Highborn for the area buff and ability to stall out games with lifegain, because I find the mana investment difficult to keep up, and rarely impactful enough to run over Blood Artist. Indulgent also has some nice bloodghast synergy.
If you wanna look up sideboard options or other funstuff, Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox is my toolbox for decks like this. Everlasting Torment, Storage Matrix and Ratchet Bomb are my current preferred sideboard choices, but it really is meta-dependant.
1 month ago
Some cards I found that could be useful are, Sorin Markov, Furnace of Rath, Dictate of the Twin Gods, Vial Smasher the Fierce, Heartstone, Goblin Assault, Flameshadow Conjuring, Grafted Exoskeleton, Havoc Festival, and Everlasting Torment. Again these are things I found that could be useful. Hope this helps in some way