Each player shuffles his or her hand and graveyard into his or her library and then draws seven cards. (Then put Timetwister into its owner's graveyard.)

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Timetwister Discussion

then_do_it_again on Xyris wheels tribal

1 week ago

Frank_Glascock- I'll try to go through each of your questions, though I think a lot of your basic ideas stem from you being in a higher power playgroup. A lot of my card choices are personal preference.

Magus of the Wheel could easily be Jace's Archivist. JvP is great just for its card filtering ability, and costing 2 vs 3. If I had another Three Visits it could easily go in the slot of Explore. Finale of Devastation is just Craterhoof Behemoth #2. Molten Psyche is difficult to pull off with Metalcraft, if I had a Timetwister that's the easiest wheel to cut. Dryad of the Ilysian Grove could easily go in - but it doesn't work with Earthcraft the way you think. only actual basic lands can be untapped. and I like the suggestion on the Growth Spiral cuts. I'd probably make it a Sylvan Library. And with the land count, I could shave a couple for cheap interaction. Pir's Whim is amazing as a removal spell/tutor for Gaea's Cradle.

Frank_Glascock on Xyris wheels tribal

1 week ago

I have been doing some more thinking about Explore. Could Explore be Dryad of the Ilysian Grove? It gets you another land drop every turn and as a small bonus turns on every land in the deck for Earthcraft.

Growth Spiral seems too limited. It could be a continuous and much better draw effect with Sylvan Library. Three Visits is a better ramp spell. I can get another major combat buff in Shared Animosity. Or another piece of interaction in the form of Mana Drain or Swan Song could be added.

I count 27 spells which produce mana. This is not counting Pir's Whim but is counting Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath, Thieving Skydiver, Sword of Feast and Famine, Explore and Growth Spiral. The decks plays 39 lands which seems high given the massive amount of mana this deck can produce. Has there been any thought to cutting down to 37 or 38 lands?

Counting the interaction in this deck is a little tricky. Let me ask this. How often does Thieving Skydiver steal a mana artifact as opposed to a stax or hate bear artifact?

Including Thieving Skydiver, Sword of Feast and Famine, and Commit / Memory I count 12 interaction spells. Has this been sufficient? Could an argument be made to cut one of the mana generating spells for something like Force of Vigor. Let's say Explore and Growth Spiral had already been cut. What is your worse mana producing spells left?

What wheel gets cut for Timetwister?

Has Pir's Whim been an effective removal spell? I assume you only choose yourself as friend.

RNR_Gaming on The Wheels on the Bus

3 weeks ago

So, nothing is jumping out at me as far as cuts go but I would suggest taking a look at Pikobyte 's build it's very well thought out. I also have a build but mine was more geared towards cedh and I know that's not everyone's cup of tea.

Definitely focus more on wheels. Wheel of Fortune and Timetwister cost a small fortune but if you have it or your group is okay with proxies use it :)

Earthcraft assuming you have some number of basics more than 3 is just insane value with the volume of tokens you can create.

Narset, Parter of Veils - probably seems like a non-bo but I assure you after that first soft lock you wont go back. Try it.

Underworld Breach can also get pretty silly

Lastly, Sage of the Falls creates really cool value loops

rkjunior on Omnath, A Song of Creation and Chaos

3 weeks ago

I haven't added it yet but if I do, I'll swap it from Akroma's Memorial.

Retreat to Coralhelm might get cut for a wheel effect like Timetwister, Wheel of Fortune, or Time Spiral

DeinoStinkus on Card creation challenge

1 month ago

Essence of Harmony


Lands you control enter the battlefield untapped.

Whenever a spell or ability you control would search your library for a land, search your library for a land card instead.

Make a new Timetwister.

jaymc1130 on Kinnan the Incredibly Frightening

1 month ago

From a competitive standpoint the deck is running so little interaction and protection as it stands that it won't ever be able to hold up in competitive settings.

You'll definitely want each of these pieces of interaction in a Kinnan helmed deck at a minimum:

xCounterspell xMental Misstep xDispel xFlusterstorm xMuddle the Mixture xCyclonic Rift xChain of Vapor xNature's Claim xFierce Guardianship xVeil of Summer xPongify/Rapid Hybridization

As it stands that won't be quite enough pieces to consistently have the access to permission and protection elements to remain in a competitive position in most game states and these pieces are worth running much of the time:

xNegate xDelay xInto the Roil/2cmc bounce spells (UG has very limited access to tools that can remove hate pieces from the board that prevent a win like Grafdigger's Cage, Notion Thief, or Narset, Parter of Veils.) xBeast Within

As an additional note about competitive Kinnan builds, you can lose the Dramatic Scepter stuff entirely. There's no need in a Kinnan deck. The most effective and efficient method of generating the infinite combo needed to win is any dork that can produce U and G mana combined with Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura. Basalt Monolith is worth running in Kinnan decks because it generates infinite colorless with just Kinnan out on the field also, so you can usually get a couple of Kinnan activations off to dig for Thrasios. For the mana dork complement it's best to stick with BoP, all the 1 cmc tap for G elf dorks, and then a handful of 2 cmc "tap for any color" dorks. The most effective back up infinite mana engines for a Kinnan deck are typically Simic Ragworm or Horseshoe Crab paired with Paradise Mantle and the Monolith (which is often why the deck runs Staff of Domination as an additional outlet that's easy to tutor for in the colors) rather than Dramatic Scepter combo as the Scepter combo relies on density of dorks and rocks to be engaged and this can be more difficult than a less card intensive engine (Crab, Mantle, Kinnan is 3 cards with one from the command zone compared to Kinnan, Dramatic Reversal, Isochron Scepter, 2 mana rocks/dorks at 5 cards to engage) and thus less reliable for the game play patterns Kinnan wants to ideally play from. Shapers of Nature and Thrasios, Triton Hero are the standard outlets that will eventually be found from Kinnan activations that allow you to draw the whole deck. From there winning is easy, so stick to win conditions that are more live than things like Blue Sun's Zenith and run Thassa's Oracle plus a looping mechanism (such as Narset's Reversal and Timetwister or Elixir of Immortality) to use the interaction pieces like Swan Song and Pongify as the win conditions (this helps to avoid other issues too, like not being able to win with Oracle due to Angel's Grace, etc, in addition to improving card slot efficiency). Green Sun's Zenith and Drift of Phantasms are generally considered must runs as tutor options for competitive Kinnan lists, but a good number of quality tutor options are available to provide consistency. Incubation Druid+Vigean Graftmage is somewhat popular as another back up 3 card game winning infinite combo line.

Cornelius_1216 on Aminatou: Social Distancing 101

1 month ago

Why do you run Teferi, Time Raveler? It means that only you have the option to interact with your opponents, and you are only running three counterspells. Also, why only run three counterspells? Why Counterspell over Mana Drain? Competitive decks, even stax-focused ones, generally should run more than three. Negate, Spell Pierce, Flusterstorm, Fierce Guardianship, Delay, and Force of Negation are all common good ones. Why are you running Windfall but not/instead of Timetwister? I don't see your deck caring about its graveyard. Since you have a subtheme of wheels, why not run Smothering Tithe and Alms Collector? Or Whispering Madness for extra density? Furthermore, you deck needs a real, tangible, hard win condition. Simply locking your opponents is not enough to win at a competitive table. Why not include Demonic Consultation and/or Tainted Pact and Thassa's Oracle and/or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries? Solid wincon that doesn't require long games to win, but works just fine in them.

goldlion Wishclaw Talisman is probably in there because of its interaction with Aminatou. -1 Aminatou targeting Talisman, activate Talisman in response, then Aminatou's flicker resolves. Unlimited tutors that cost {1} apiece. Avarice Totem is bad.

konanxados on Competitive Sliver EDH

1 month ago

Great deck. Why you are not using Timetwister ?

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