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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Imperial Seal
Sorcery
Search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it. You lose 2 life.
Profet93 on
Visions of Erebos
2 months ago
Sheoldred, the Apocalypse - Offsets commander lifeloss, great against blue/draw decks. Deathtouch is nice. Synergy with Peer into the Abyss (which also goes well with underworld dreams).
MAYBE Heartstone? - I'm unsure if this works with your commander only if he's a creature or even if he's just an enchantment.
Cabal Coffers - Ramp. Cabal Stronghold is more budget.
Deserted Temple - Untap coffers + politics
MAYBE Rings of Brighthearth - Copy commander ability without paying life. Also Coffers + Deserted temple + rings = . Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - Makes you need less swamps but is not budget (or needed, but helpful).
Imp's Mischief - "Counter" counterspells while redirecting targeted removal, extra turns and draw.
Necropotence - Draw
I am unsure what your wincon is, beatdown? You lose a lot of life with your commander's ability. Perhaps a The Meathook Massacre could help as a wipe + lifegain effect?
Diabolic Tutor/Beseech the Queen/Beseech the Mirror. Tutors are black's biggest strength, utilize it for consistency.
Alhammarret's Archive - Extra draw
Black's 3rd biggest strength is massive mana. Aside from coffers, Crypt Ghast, Nirkana Revenant, Caged Sun, Gauntlet of Power
Once you determine your wincon, you can start to mold the deck to achieving that goal.
EDIT: Removed the non-budget options
legendofa on Rat Colony hub
3 months ago
sergiodelrio I'm also avoiding loose and vague hubs names. They get used incorrectly or are broad to the point of all-inclusive.
Vague hub names have caused problems in the past. One hub in particular (Team America, now inactive) was being used for the wrong decks entirely. It's a Legacy tempo shell from 2008-2009, but was being treated as a synonym for any Jeskai deck, which is about as far away from the intended definition as you can get. I understand the source of the confusion, but a confusing hub is not a good hub, in my opinion. If it can't be understood at a glance, it's going to get reworked.
"Reduced variance" or "low variance" also already exists, kind of, as the "competitive" hub. The whole intent of competitive decks is to reduce variance as much as possible, so that the deck is as streamlined and consistent as possible. This is achieved through tutors, redundancy, deck manipulation, using playsets of cards, and so on. So what would be the criteria for inclusion in a "low variance" hub? I expect that a "low variance" hub would be highly subjective, used for any deck that its creator thinks is unusually consistent, whether or not it actually is.
I have also declined to put in a real tutor hub so far for similar reasons. How many tutors do you need to have to be a "tutor" deck? Is four enough, with Imperial Seal, Vampiric Tutor, Diabolic Tutor, and Diabolic Intent? What about Eladamri's Call, Green Sun's Zenith, Natural Order, Buried Alive, Terramorphic Expanse, Misty Rainforest, Mystical Tutor... What would be a short and solid description of a "tutor" deck? "A deck that regularly searches its library" would include landfall decks, almost every competitive EDH deck, "silver bullet" decks, and hatebear decks, all of which already have their own hub, and probably more. "A deck with seven or more card that search its owner's library" is arbitrary, as is any other number for inclusion. "A deck that regularly searches its library for specific cards that help it advance its win condition"--nah, I'm going to search for this useless card that doesn't help me at all.
Incidentally, "scry" is already available as a hub in the keyword/subtype checklist.
If a hub includes a $300 Dragon's Approach Pioneer deck, a $80 Elrond, Master of Healing casual Commander deck, and a $50,000 Vintage Beseech the Mirror deck, that hub becomes even broader than the aggro/combo/control archetypes, and as such becomes almost meaningless. I've added Dragon's Approach, Rat Colony, and Shadowborn Apostle to the short list for consideration, so they might be coming soon; I didn't see as many decks or as much diversity for Persistent Petitioners. And don't worry about a long post, as long as it's meaningful. It shows the idea has people willing to defend it and fight for it, which makes it more likely to be included one way or another.
Profet93 on
Oh you are just the worst kind of person
5 months ago
Pretty good list. I'm surprised you don't run more draw. Necropotence is powerful and has amazing synergy with possessed portal because you don't actually draw cards, is that why it isn't in the "Draw" section? Phyrexian Arena > Dark tutelage. Assuming possessed portal isn't in play, this is an upgrade.
I like the use of fetchlands with crucible. It appears there are budget considerations of the deck not mentioned in the description? Assuming I'm wrong, then perhaps consider fetchlands and Cabal Coffers and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth package. Can't forget Chains of Mephistopheles given you're not drawing a bunch and it fits into the discard theme.
Why is Altar of Dementia in the tutor section, am I missing something?
Vampiric Tutor, Grim Tutor and Imperial Seal are all helpful tutors.
Perhaps a Bitterblossom or a Reassembling Skeleton for contamination and to break parity on your control/stax effects.
What is the purpose of Voltaic Key? I am unsure if you run enough artifacts for inspiring statuary, how has that been playing for you?
Looking forward to your response.
Azoth2099 on
The Price of Power | Rowan EDH
7 months ago
Also Imperial Seal, Dark Tutelage & Sign in Blood!
NoLifeGrimmjow on
The Song of Phyresis
8 months ago
Opening hand was amazing. Mana Crypt, Gemstone Mine, Reflecting Pool, Blighted Agent, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon, Prologue to Phyresis, and Imperial Seal. First draw was Thrummingbird, then Sword of Truth and Justice, then Imperial Seal for Command Tower,then Counter spell. I couldn't ask for a better set-up
fluffyeel on
I will have no friends anymore
9 months ago
Ooh, wheel punishment fun. Here are some thoughts of varying budget levels:
- Memory Jar is a great wheel effect, and comboing with Sheoldred means 14 damage right off the bat. You could also think about Teferi's Puzzle Box, cheaper-price wise and is effectively a wheel every turn. (I use this to great effect in my Nekusar, the Mindrazer EDH.)
- Wound Reflection and/or Archfiend of Despair will multiply damage and life loss, and not just from Sheoldred. (Use them both for extra fun!)
- In terms of board wipes, The Meathook Massacre, Toxic Deluge, Damnation, and Oblivion Stone are all within color and all very brutal. Living Death is a bit of a strange boardwipe, but can be quite handy. Murderous Rider is also good for pinpoint removal with an upside., and Aether Snap might also be useful depending on your playgroup.
- Tutors are good things to get your stuff, but many that I would recommend (Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, and Imperial Seal) are price-wise quite high. Diabolic Intent and Grim Tutor, however, are much less expensive, though, and recently reprinted, so maybe worth a thought.
- If reanimating is a thing you want to do, The Cauldron of Eternity is maybe worth a thought.
- Field of Ruin and Demolition Field are good pinpoint land removal tools that don't really cost you anything. (Because there are some lands that need to die.) You could also use Fabled Passage, Prismatic Vista, Evolving Wilds, and Terramorphic Expanse as other land fetches to also load up your graveyard for whatever shenanigans you plan (and for deck thinning).
- Snugglemuffin–er, Phyrexian Obliterator is great in any mono-black deck. Not only is it cute and adorable, but it's very hard to deal with.
- If you can have a reliable source of sacrificial victims (eg. Reassembling Skeleton or Bloodghast, for instance), Contamination is maybe worth a thought. Your opponents will "love" you forever when their lands only tap for one black mana at a time.
fluffyeel on
Leeching Cotton: Oloro's Couch
9 months ago
Some thoughts:
- Opposition Agent is a possibly and suitably oppressive card, particularly with tutoring and fetching running rampant. Great fun.
- Raffine's Tower is a fetchable tri-land, which is great early game for color correction.
- Imperial Seal has been reprinted, so it's an extra cheap tutor that might be handy.
- Counterbalance can be delightfully obnoxious, and while it's combo potential with Sensei's Divining Top, you do have Soothsaying as an alternate option. It's countermagic, but it's exceptionally repeatable. Also, in terms of countermagic- and control-like things, I'd say to go for things with benefits, like Commandeer, Desertion
, Vindicate (which I say is a must in those colors), Anguished Unmaking, Cyclonic Rift, Sunder, The Meathook Massacre... - Dream Trawler might be pricey, but it's also very obnoxious to face. You could also think, in terms of creatures and creature-generation, about Sigil of the Empty Throne, Heliod, the Radiant Dawn Flip, Field of the Dead...
- Felidar Sovereign is another alternate win with fewer life required than the Test of Endurance, though Aetherflux Reservoir can be another fun way to ensure your life shoots sky-high and gives you ammo to destroy things. I'm also partial to Kokusho, the Evening Star in any black deck.
- A fun (but slow) way to swipe creatures is Athreos, Shroud-Veiled. Great fun, and it's fairly hard for opponents to deal with if it's not a creature.
OberstHati on
Atraxa walks all over You
11 months ago
LOL Profet93, now i got the Imperial Seal i couldn‘t make the Cut to put it in here, so Dimir No-Brainer got it,…
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