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Discard a card: Wild Mongrel gets +1/+1 and becomes the colour of your choice until end of turn.
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Wild Mongrel Discussion
1 month ago
I guess the question is: How many zombies do you want to make milling around with Sidisi?
The classic combo is Bone Miser + Sidisi + discard outlet ( Wild Mongrel / Putrid Imp , etc) + Darkblast / Life from the Loam . With Sidisi, Miser, and the discard outlet in play discard Loam or Darkblast, Miser triggers to draw a card. Replace the draw with dredge and return the discarded Loam or Darkblast. Mill. Repeat the process triggering Sidisi to make zombies for any creatures you mill. Eventually mill Kozilek, Butcher of Truth or another such Eldrazi shuffler. Resuffle the graveyard into the library. Repeat these steps to make an infinite army of zombies. What you choose to do with an infinite zombie token army at that point is up to you.
4 months ago
5 months ago
Circular Logic is going to be bad if you don't play any discard effects. That being said, I can hardly imagine a Canadian Thresh deck without Wild Mongrel. This card will fix a lot of the issues you are having with your deck (cards in graveyard, aggressive strategies, countermagic, etc.).
Mental Note is also a staple of the archetype that is notably missing from your list. Any reason why? Combined with Thought Scour and Brainstorm, you have a pretty effective draw package for your strategy.
I think 10 counters is a bit too many. Spell Pierce seems the narrowest of the bunch and could be a sideboard card instead. Bounce spells work well for a tempo deck. Vapor Snag makes a lot of sense here. It also makes a Red splash questionable, in my opinion. You might not need Lightning Bolts, Fire and Archer in your deck if there are suitable U/G substitutes.
Cutting Red would simplify your mana base drastically by cutting Mountains and Evolving Wilds. Playing Thornwood Falls would make your mana much more flexible and allow your to play more colour-heavy cards.
If you want to keep your Red removal, that's fine. I would definitely find room for Mental Note and Wild Mongrel, though. You could probably trim on Spell Pierce, Ponder, Fire/Ice or Firebrand Archer to make it fit, in my opinion.
I hope that was helpful.
7 months ago
mlequesne, that is a great suggestion. I have indeed tried Vengevine already. In a deck with under 20 creatures, (many with higher than 2cmc) I found that the return from the graveyard was very hit and miss.
Turn 2 I could sometimes get lucky by playing either Wild Mongrel or Noose Constrictor and discarding vengevine and Basking Rootwalla, but overall it felt lackluster. Survival of the Fittest used to enable survivalvine decks back in the day but that card is banned unfortunately.
Thanks for the upvote! Cheers.
7 months ago
Sire Of Insanity is insanely good, and turns being ahead on the board into wins. Also quite inexpensive to purchase. Does great work when your deck plays from the graveyard
Terastodon is a 9/9 beater that solves 3 problems immediately. Also rather inexpensive to acquire. You can even nuke 3 of your own lands to get three 3/3's and one 9/9 for 18 swinging power on the field.
Protean Hulk isn't too expensive and is a fantastic choice if you have a creature based combo already in the deck.
Sheoldred, Whispering One is expensive to buy, but an absolute powerhouse in reanimator strategies. Sticking this on turn 3 can put you super far ahead.
Avatar of Woe can be great board control when reanimated early.
Massacre Wurm is about $2 after all the reprints, and while it isn't the best reanimation target, it can certainly bring the hurt for opponents.
Ancient Stone Idol is a 12/12 Trampler, no crazy effects but a massive beater that has a die trigger.
Most demons are decent choices. I'm a big fan of how Kuro, Pitlord can instantly clear a board, but his upkeep cost is kind of gross.
As far as budget reanimation cards, I'm a huge fan of Apprentice Necromancer for reanimation targets with ETB triggers. It works extremely well with Sun Titan, which is out of Korvold colors but a gross combo to be aware of nonetheless (Sun Tit ETB returns the Necro, the attack trigger returns something else too). I also like Life / Death which has lots of potential in Korvold (make lands into creatures, then sac creatures to draw tons of cards) outside of just reanimation. Animate Dead and Dance of the Dead are both inexpensive at around $5 and $10 respectively last I checked and are worth getting, they will be staples even in 100% optimized reanimator. Whisper, Blood Liturgist has nice use when you get Korvold sac triggers, but needs cheap token or reusable bodies to use consistently and is expensive to cast at 4 CMC. Victimize is a great card, but once again requires bodies on the field. Exhume is fast to cast but you usually want to pair it with graveyard removal or time it well. Dread Return is a useful card that does well with lots of bodies and can be used twice. Doomed Necromancer is great Korvold tech but slow at 3 CMC + summoning sick, usually activating on turn 4 or later.
Buried Alive is a phenomenal card that can enable reanimator strategies, a definite must-include.
Cheap discard outlets also help move fatties from your hand to the graveyard. I can recommend Putrid Imp as the GOAT, but also Tortured Existence, Wild Mongrel, Faithless Looting, Noose Constrictor and Fauna Shaman. You can also look to some one-time spells to help you discard, I recommend Collective Brutality and Smallpox especially. Bog Witch can work wonders in slower metas, but will be a cut when your deck gets more optimized.
8 months ago
Hi DoktaDakka and thanks! This is definitely one of my favourite decks as well. Many people underestimate how powerful this deck can be.
I think that with Wild Mongrel, Vampire Hounds and Tortured Existence I have enough discard effects that I don't need Putrid Imp. The imp is good when you want to discard something important on Turn 1 or 2, but aside from Basking Rootwalla there's nothing really worth discarding that early in the game. It's an okay option for Exhume decks, but otherwise we're all set with our discard engine.
In terms of Hooting Mandrills, I honestly have never tried them. The deck can always use more cheap beaters, but what would you replace them with? Crypt Rats maybe?
As for TE targets, you'll still find them mostly in the sideboard. Caustic Caterpillar, Spore Frog, Thrull Surgeon, Faerie Macabre and more Crypt Rats are meant to shore up any weaknesses while synergizing well with TE. What other Toolbox cards am I missing? Maybe I could find space for them somewhere.
Thanks again for the comment!
1 year ago
3.) The Gitrog Monster has a lot of casual variations, but it gets busted in competitive EDH if you plan to go infinite with Dakmor Salvage and any of the various free repeatable discard outlets such as: Earsplitting Rats, Grotesque Hybrid, Noose Constrictor, Oblivion Crown, Olivia's Dragoon, Oona's Prowler, Patchwork Gnomes, Putrid Imp, Skirge Familiar, Trespasser il-Vec, Tunneler Wurm or Wild Mongrel.
Upon discarding the Dakmor Salvage, The Gitrog Monster allows you to draw a card which you can use to dredge the Dakmor Salvage back. As you can see you have an infinite mill loop, BUT for every land you mill, you also get a draw trigger from The Gitrog Monster. Not only that, but in your deck you have one or more of these grave-shuffle effects: Kozilek, Butcher of Truth, Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre or Gaea's Blessing. Milling any of those cards puts all milled cards back into your library, so you can keep racking up draw triggers until you have your entire deck in your hand.
At this point you can free cast Lotus Petal and/or Dark Ritual and then shuffle them back into your library to draw again by discarding a grave shuffler followed by any number of lands in your hand to draw them back and repeat. You now have infinite mana of any color in your hand along with every card in your library in your hand and the ability to recast any card in your hand as many times as you want. Simplest method of winning is just to cast Walking Ballista for a million mana but really any card that causes a loss of life that can easily be put back in the grave upon use so you can cycle it back will work. Also if your opponents have something like Leyline of Sanctity or any other protection card you can freely cast and recast your Assassin's Trophy and/or Maelstrom Pulse as many times as you want to bypass the issue.
But what if they exile your Dakmor Salvage? Use Riftsweeper to get it back and if that fails use your back-up Mirror of Fate to recur it after you've milled your library thoroughly with some value engine like Mesmeric Orb. You basically have to also exile their recursion cards to remove the land for good or use Praetor's Grasp as a silver bullet.
Why not just use a removal spell or graveyard hate spell/ability while the first dredge trigger is on the stack to interrupt the combo? Well, that could work, but keep in mind if they discard a another land card while its on the stack they can dredge off of that and run through their combo all while removal is on the stack effectively bypassing any number of removal spells equal to the extra lands in their hand. By the time the removal spell as has resolved they will have infinite black mana from Dark Ritual and a Lotus Petal to cast afterward allowing them to just recast whatever was removed or just win by hard-casting the aforementioned Walking Ballista.
If Tormod's Crypt won't work you could use Rest in Peace or Planar Void to stop it, but these decks run so many Naturalize effects because they know that's the only real effective answer you have to stop it.
Oh, and get this. If you can't find a discard outlet you can use your discard step to discard down to hand size to go infinite and win the game that way as the discard step repeats if an ability is triggered due to discarding down to hand size. Which means all you really need is the land which you can find with all the black tutors and green provides its own land tutor effects as well. Given you're also in green playing a turn 2 or 3 The Gitrog Monster is fairly possible which can be the same turn you win on.
The deck is too consistent at winning. People don't play it though, because certain interactions get very complex in rules interactions which means you need a solid understanding of how to pilot it, and those who do know how to pilot it find it boring as winning can be so fast and consistent it doesn't even feel like you're playing Magic anymore. Also the deck can get pretty pricey to acquire all the cards you need. That combination of factors is why it doesn't see much play otherwise it would be banned straight out of existence if sanctioned competitive EDH tournaments were more common in my opinion.