Force of Will

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Premodern Legal
Vintage Legal

Force of Will

Instant

You may pay 1 life and exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.

Counter target spell.

DreadKhan on Indestructible Visions

2 weeks ago

Master of Etherium is a nice good generic Affinity card, as are Thoughtcast and Thought Monitor. Over Buried Ruin you might look at Treasure Vault, it's an artifact land that can make a bunch of artifacts for something like Nettlecyst or Cranial Plating.

I assume the Sol Rings are for THG, because I'm very sure it's banned in Legacy for being completely busted. There really isn't anything else as good you can substitute other than Ancient Tomb, which can kill you, but people definitely run for it's power. There are also Springleaf Drum and Moonsnare Prototype, which can ramp turn 1.

Not sure if it's truly relevant other than as bad 3 mana ramp, but Mirrormade exists. It's harder to cast than Copy Enchantment, but it can copy an Artifact if you want, which is pretty good value sometimes, copying a Land is funny.

In the event of a mirror match, you might like having access to Ravenform to remove opposing bodies that are indestructible or regenerate, it can also hit pesky artifacts, probably worth a look at for a sideboard.

This is going to sound a bit crazy, but you should consider Vault Skirge in here, making a 5/5 flying lifelink is very good vs some decks, and it also plays nice with Cranial Plating. I usually just cast it for the 2 life on turn 1 and try to get a Cranial Plating on it ASAP in my Affinity deck, it has won me plenty of tough games.

I wonder if the Blinkmoth Urns are too slow? I guess THG they make more sense, but if you want to play 1v1 Legacy, you should keep in mind how fast decks tend to be, as this deck packs essentially nothing to spoke an opponent's wheel. I'm not sure you could really fit in counters, but they are great in Legacy if your not going all-in on speed. Of particular interest, cheap/low mana counters can let you protect your indestructible creatures from Exile effects like Swords to Plowshares or edicts like Innocent Blood or Smallpox, these kinds of effects definitely see play in Legacy. I guess in THG you might have a partner packing the protection? I think you either want more creatures or some protection for your bodies. Some counters that are popular include Spell Pierce, Dispel, Swan Song and Flusterstorm, as well as free ones like Force of Will obviously. Good old Counterspell sounds good in theory, but it can be impossible to hold up UU to protect stuff, because getting out a 5/5 is time sensitive, too late and it won't be big enough, too early and the control player can just remove/counter your stuff and win later on.

Cool deck idea!

MilesHiles on Planeswalkers Perfected

3 weeks ago

This deck is cool! It's nice to see someone else with a full foil Atraxa Walkers deck lol The only opinion I have on it is that Kasmina, Enigma Sage, Primevals' Glorious Rebirth, and two of your lands should probably be counterspells of some sort. You have Eerie Ultimatum so Primevals' Glorious Rebirth is kinda redundant. If you really need to use mass resurrection twice in one game, you probably want to use direct spell/card recursion to get Eerie Ultimatum back instead. Kasmina, Enigma Sage basically does nothing for you but take up a card slot and let you scry (potentially) multiple times. You even listed in your reasoning that you don't use her ult much and without using her as a means to put a "better ult" on other walkers, you could just add a Counterspell to get rid of removal. Additionally, I'm betting with 37 lands that your late game can sometimes involve mana flooding in your card draws. 33-35 lands is more than enough to secure a decent chance at a 3 land opening hand and leaves room for control - which it looks like would be handy. Mana Drain, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation are all great picks since two are "free" and one GIVES you back mana for using it. Just a tip!

Ardees on Gates? Nine Fingers Keene Competitive

1 month ago

If you are aiming at 'competitive' in the technical sense of the term (as in 'cEDH' or 'competitive EDH'), like the title seems to suggest, I see many staples missing that unfortunately make the deck quite far from being competitive.

Artifacts: you should be running at least Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mana Crypt, Sol Ring, Arcane Signet, Mana Vault, Jeweled Lotus, maybe even Grim Monolith and Lion's Eye Diamond.,

Tutors: you are missing Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, and Worldly Tutor and Green Sun's Zenith if you run any combo, win, or strategy whatsoever based on creatures. You could also add Wishclaw Talisman and Solve the Equation, and, although not a tutor, Peer into the Abyss, which works quite nicely with Thought Vessel.

Lands: any competitive deck plays true duals, namely Underground Sea, Bayou, and Tropical Island. Same for shocklands and at least 6-7 fetchlands in a 3-color deck like this one. You could also consider lower the number of lands, depending on whether or not you want to keep the Gate strategy

Protection: any competitive deck that plays blue automatically plays top-end counterspells, namely Swan Song, Arcane Denial, Force of Will, Force of Negation, Pact of Negation, Fierce Guardianship, Mental Misstep, An Offer You Can't Refuse, and Flusterstorm. You are also missing key cards like Cyclonic Rift or Chain of Vapor. Needless to say, ideally a competitive deck playing blue also plays Timetwister: not a counterspell but a must card (yeah, the price is another topic of conversation).

Creatures: I understand the Gate theme but you are missing some high-value creature cards in here, most notably Dauthi Voidwalker, Malevolent Hermit  Flip, Lotus Cobra, Azusa, Lost but Seeking, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Ramunap Excavator, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Oracle of Mul Daya, Elvish Reclaimer - to name a few. Much depends on the strategy of your deck, although don't let keywords aligned with your strategy (e.g. 'Gate') fool you into thinking some cards are good for that.

Enchantments: a few staples in the current competitive meta: Rhystic Study, Mystic Remora, Sylvan Library, Burgeoning, Exploration, maybe Abundance and Necropotence

Removals: you could most definitely swap some of your removals for something better and more competitive, such as Force of Vigor, Nature's Claim, Abrupt Decay, Assassin's Trophy, and more.

Now, I totally understand there is a budget situation going on with upgrading to competitive MtG (spoiler alert: MtG is a pay-to-win type of game, research confirms), but generally the term 'competitive' sticks to decks that, to the very least, include most if not all cards mentioned above - without mentioning the fact that any competitive deck needs running at least one winning combo. At this stage, your level is more looking towards casual. This isn't to criticize you or anything of course, pretty interesting build, just not really a competitive deck in its strict sense.

If you want to try the competitive experience, my suggestion is to proxy cards by printing them online - this should cost around 10 bucks on colored and good quality paper, and effectively save you more than 7k worth of cards.

Renzisherekiddo on Your Deck is Mine (unfinished, help appreciated)

2 months ago

so I've built and played this deck, ideally you want to use Chromatic Lantern like effects so when you go to cast other peoples stuff you've got any mana color you need, some of which are Chromatic Orrery, Mycosynth Lattice Celestial Dawn, Smothering Tithe, etc.

Next you want protection for sen because 9/10 times she's not going to exist on the board by the time of next turn, you want effects such as Padeem, Consul of Innovation, Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots, additionally anything that gives indestructible is helpful to protect her somewhat.

from there fill in some counterspells, whether it be expensive ones like Force of Will, Pact of Negation, etc. or some inexpensive ones like Counterspell upto you.

also might want to throw in a Torment of Hailfire in case the "use other peoples win conditions as your win condition" doesn't work out

if you want to take inspiration from mine here's the deck Our deck - sen triplets communism

TheOfficialCreator on What Commander Do You Think …

2 months ago

TheSnuggleLord It doesn't violate any site rules at all I don't believe, and as the OP of the thread I am fully comfortable with these conversations continuing; this is exactly the kind of discussion I love to engage in on the site and throughout my exploits as a custom card creator.

I've always been a fan of the notion that we should ban Sol Ring in Commander, simply because there is no good reason why it should remain legal in the format. We've simply bought too much into the notion that things like Sol Ring, Force of Will, and Fierce Guardianship are okay in a format that was originally built to be more casual, especially when cards like Braids, Cabal Minion are banned.

I actually touch on this in one of my in-progress primers ever so briefly, and I think it's important to recognize these effects where they occur.

Commander decks are getting faster and faster, and without some much-needed restrictions on the number of new products, it's just going to get worse.

legendofa on Mill Flayers

3 months ago

Welcome to the club, Raijin1989!

For being a first deck, this is very solid in its focus and balance. I'm also impressed with your available cards, like Mana Crypt, Force of Will, The Meathook Massacre...

If you want an instant mill win condition, Mindcrank and either Bloodchief Ascension or Duskmantle Guildmage can knock out an opponent on the spot. If you manage to get all your opponents to lose life or put a card in their graveyard at the same time, you just won.

If you want to disable a graveyard-focused deck, Eater of the Dead is very good, but I don't see a way to tap it on demand. Something like Hermetic Study/Psionic Gift or Banishing Knack/Retraction Helix could push it even further. Alternatively or supplementary, Tormod's Crypt can wipe out a problematic graveyard immediately.

Andramalech on MBD Zombie

3 months ago

Balaam__ I agree about building towards a goal that is non-traditional:

Building to win is so Spike, and I wanna win like Timmy or Johnny. I personally think this deck is more Johnny because at first glance.. you might miss some of these key interactions!

I.e.: things like how Zombie Infestation makes bodies that can be tossed for Scourge of Nel Toth, and then replenish your hand with Shadow of the Grave.

Boneyard Scourge is a cool card, but admittedly it isn't eternal format legal... that doesn't mean I won't use his happy ass anyways!

As far as "going second" as a precedent, I would think things like Serum Powder could help do a thing.. I even really like the idea of "going second" but having a strong "turn zero" presence to throw off your opponents (things like the Leylines or Chancellors).

Unfortunately, in competitive settings we both know it's gonna be typical "lame"/boring stuff like:

You splashed blue:

Or you splashed white:

Or, my personal favorite, if you splash green, you can have access to all my favorite removal, Graveyard staples, etc.:

And I wouldn't leave feedback about "How to" without covering the obvious ones, or at least some cards that immediately cross my mind for improvements:

There is a piece of my heart that wishes older Zombies had a more dangerous presence for this, like (I think) Lord of the Undead or Undead Warchief. Even a little slot for Soulless One.

Hell, I've even considered taking this theme to an EDH setting due to a video I saw of Jimmy Wong on Game Nights where he uses Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar as a psuedo-reanimator type build. With the inclusion of , I would especially love to use Bladewing the Risen or his newest iteration from Dominaria United. Initially, what I remembered wanting was "Zombies and Zombie Dragons".

And if we're mentioning that new set, Defiler of Flesh makes this blow up too. So many great "The Rot of the Horde" feeling cards that feed a sensation of an overwhelming wave of Undead minions!

Things like Abomination of Llanowar in a build would also be fun.

Really enjoyed our discussion about this and I'm really curious to see if/what kinda spin you would put on it!

Andramalech on MBD Zombie

3 months ago

Balaam__ I agree about building towards a goal that is non-traditional:

Building to win is so Spike, and I wanna win like Timmy or Johnny. I personally think this deck is more Johnny because at first glance.. you might miss some of these key interactions!

I.e.: things like how Zombie Infestation makes bodies that can be tossed for Scourge of Nel Toth, and then replenish your hand with Shadow of the Grave.

Boneyard Scourge is a cool card, but admittedly it isn't eternal format legal... that doesn't mean I won't use his happy ass anyways!

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