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Mana Crypt Discussion
18 hours ago
Strionic Resonator plus mana rocks that produce at least 2 mana together is what makes up Brago's premiere combo. Putting those into the deck, alongside ways to find those cards, will probably improve your deck substantially.
Currently, you have 12 mana rocks, but a good number of them are... less than efficient. Talisman of Progress shouldn't be too expensive and is a straight upgrade to any of your 3+ mana rocks (a rock on turn 2 means Brago by turn 3. 2 mana and less rocks are king because Brago's mana cost is 4). Fellwar Stone , Everflowing Chalice , etc., should all be fairly cheap options in the 2cmc range that, when combined together, let you go infinite with Brago and Resonator. The more expensive rocks, like Chrome Mox , Mana Vault , Grim Monolith , Mana Crypt , and Mox Diamond are helpful but not necessary, so for now stick to the good 2cmc rocks that don't enter tapped.
Once you go nuts with Brago and Resonator, you can use Rishadan Cutpurse to make everyone sac all of their permanents. He's actually just decent on his own, oddly enough, so I'd recommend running it over Resolute Archangel (the best way to not need to gain life is to keep your opponents from having anything). Venser, Shaper Savant is fantastic in and out of the combo because he can return a spell to a player's hand as well (so if someone is trying to cast Obliterate or some big spell like that, you can buy a turn by casting Venser, then keep him from getting the mana to cast it again by blinking him and bouncing the caster's land).
Act of Authority is one of Brago's best cards. The turn you cast it, you can exile two artifacts or enchantments, and then do it each turn thereafter as well. It's pretty handy. It's similar to Reality Acid, which I see you already run. Aura of Silence is perfect for Brago- slow your opponents down, and if they play anything of any value, destroy it.
Of course, having ways to find these cards is invaluable, and the single largest boost you could probably give the deck, dollar for dollar, would be in accessible tutors. Fabricate would find Strionic Resonator or Sol Ring, Enlightened Tutor could find you removal (Reality Acid, Act of Authority, Aura of Silence, etc), your Sol Ring, or Resonator, or a stax piece, more on that later. Mystical Tutor could find the aforementioned tutors, draw, protection, sweepers, etc.. Merchant Scroll would find Mystical Tutor or protection. Reshape could be used to find Resonator or Sol Ring. There are more, but these are a reasonable starting point.
Lastly, the most competitive way to play Brago? Stax. By stax I mean controlling the board using cards like Winter Orb , Static Orb , Stasis . Stasis is absolutely ridiculous in this deck should you assemble any rock that produces blue (cause you swing Brago, blink himself and the blue producing rock, and nobody gets an untap step ever again). Your opponents can eventually find a way out of this by killing Brago, but it can buy some fairly invaluable turns. Cards like Aven Mindcensor , Cursed Totem , etc., can also slow your opponents down or interfere with integral strategies (Sisay and Yisan, for example, have to find a way around Cursed Totem in order to even play lol). This manner of play is absurdly un-fun, though, so if you have a budget group (which it looks like your deck fits into), I wouldn't recommend playing Brago as stax, and just play basic control until you can find your Resonator and win that way.
Hope this helped.
1 day ago
COLORLESS IS BEST COLOR
Really though, no worries about the essay. I like when people take the time to give well-reasoned feedback honestly, and if you saw the description you know I can get pretty long-winded as well. And I'm about to.
Glad to see you have the good taste to realize which Kozilek is really best. Annihilator is just brutal, and I adore it. Also, Butcher does have a lot more consistent draw, and while Kozilek, the Great Distortion can draw more in one cast, you can't Strionic Resonator his cast trigger.
The price listed on here is mostly due to price spikes and generally high-balled prices on here. I don't think I've put as much as $1000 even into this deck, merely a lot of time, some good trades, and a few very well timed purchases (good lord am I glad I went for the Mana Crypt when it was down to $70.)
The reason I haven't really gone for any stax is because honestly, my meta's not a huge fan of such effects. I've considered the Orbs, absolutely, but frankly I'm not going to be the one to start another arms race in my group. That said, Torpor Orb really should find a slot, because literally the only thing it stops in here is Solemn Simulacrum , which while unfortunate, is definitely an acceptable loss given what it DOES stop. My stance on said stax effects could change, given I move to another, more cutthroat meta or my current one powercreeps to the point where I absolutely must slot the Orbs and such in. You're not wrong in your assessment there by any means though.
Urzatron has only ever been assembled like, once in this deck, so I probably could ditch it for more useful utility lands. And a Strip Mine . I don't know how the hell I haven't added one of those by now either. An older version of this list actually did run Miren, the Moaning Well as well, but I ended up moving it to my Kokusho deck as I only have the one at the moment. I'll see about getting some new things slotted in there.
I like Key to the City as a way to grant unblockable. Usually I could care less about the draw trigger, though I do use it when I feel I can. Batterskull could be cut honestly, I kind of rush slotted that in over Planar Bridge because I noticed that with Bridge all I ever did was go digging for Paradox Engine and a way to go infinite and barf my deck onto the table, and honestly that got boring for me. Ashnod's Altar could lead to some silly shenanigans, I'll have to see about getting at least one of those. Mirrorworks is actually a card I've been on the fence about myself. Like, sometimes it's a dead cast that doesn't get a lot done, sometimes I get dual Monoliths and have all the mana, all the time. It'll probably go when I get my hands on one of those sweet new Ugins honestly, because I NEED HIM HE'S GREAT HOLY CRAP. I've also considered Staff of Domination here, but I'm not sure if it would be too powerful or not. Might test that out. Memory Jar is a card I've used a bit in my Hanna deck, and it's obscenely good with her recursion. I assume it would be great here, I just need to get another.
Always nice to hear from someone else who knows just how damn fun colorless is. I wish you good luck and lots of fast mana opening hands.
4 days ago
so as you could probably tell Spirits I have a Kaalia of the Vast deck as well and was wondering what suggestions you may have considering I don't have, nor can i afford to drop the money on, some of the high priced mana rocks. With that in mind, what suggestions would you have for me? should I run signets or something else? also, should I plan for a longer game by subbing out some of your faster win-cons for more later game stuff? or should I keep it mostly the same? God I wish I had pulled a Mana Crypt from my Eternal masters box... Pulled some other great cards like a foil Wasteland , Force of Will , and a Sneak Attack (amongst other things). OH well :)
4 days ago
I would follow in suit of everything Daedalus19876 recommends.
As for cuts, this is where it gets hard, cause I am a Spike at my core, and I wouldn't want to impose on what you want your deck to do, so the first step is identifying exactly what you want your deck to do always, then cut what doesn't facilitate that. For example, I see you want to go for mill, but you deviate with a lot of discard cards. Discard works if used in anticipation of comboing off, but since your deck doesn't do that I would focus more on control to ensure your plan A always goes through.
HMU if I could do something to further help you with cuts or suggestions! I would be more than happy to.
AKBZ on New to cEDH
5 days ago
Starting with mana base, I would cut any land entering tapped as the only way it enters. You are giving your opponent a Time Walk every time they come into play because it puts you a turn behind. They either should just be basic lands or upgrades, the big ones being City of Brass , Mana Confluence , and Forbidden Orchard . These lands far outweigh things like Bojuka Bog or Murmuring Bosk or Temple of Plenty . Also would cut Razorverge Thicket , Canopy Vista , Fortified Village and High Market . The first three are too conditional and High Market is colorless with no immediate benefit. I would play the pain lands before these lands as they don’t enter tapped and still give you your colors and I would play the fetchlands before the painlands. Keep in mind you can play up too nine fetchlands because they don’t have any color symbols on them. Second, upgrade the tutor package. Vampiric Tutor and Demonic Tutor are the best black tutors in the format, and the reason to be in black. I would consider them higher priority than fast mana rocks. The cuts I would make are Apprentice Necromancer Damnation Day of Judgment Bloodthrone Vampire Qasali Pridemage Altar of Dementia Ashnod's Altar Lotleth Troll Life from the Loam Greater Good and Farseek The sac outlets only come out when you combo, so having excess is deadweight. The board wipes aren’t doing anything to stop fast combo, so they can be cut. The necromancer and pridemage are value, but not enough. I would rather play Assassin's Trophy and Abrupt Decay over those two. Card suggestions Stony Silence Null Rod Abrupt Decay Assassin's Trophy Birthing Pod Nature's Claim Nature's Lore Survival of the Fittest Demonic Tutor Vampiric Tutor Aura Shards Leyline of the Void , Containment Priest and Grafdigger's Cage . If you can’t play fast mana, neither should your opponents. The first two are MUST INCLUDES and the tutors are HIGH PRIORITY. Nature's Lore is a strict upgrade over Farseek . The last three are graveyard hate that hates out the two decks mentioned. I know that you are thinking “but those last two hate out my deck as well”. That is the wrong way to look at them. The first question you should ask is “are the two decks I’m losing too faster than me?” The answer is yes, they are. After that, the next question should be “can I be faster than them?” The answer is no, you can’t be faster than them. Without cards like Gaea's Cradle and Mana Crypt and Mox Diamond and Survival of the Fittest and Demonic Tutor you will never be faster. Even with these cards, this strategy is considered to be slower than the two decks mentioned. Therefore, you have to slow them down at all costs, even if it means you won’t be winning anytime soon. I would say that the hate pieces are MUST INCLUDES. I would cut Hushwing Gryff and Gaddock Teeg as these cards are not helping you fight your meta. The last bit of advice is that you are playing Stax pieces and are playing a Stax deck. The deck needs to fight what you are playing against. Anything that does not do that is unhelpful at best and a game loss at most. Sure, you are playing to a combo finish, but there are multiple turns before that game winning combo, and every card in your opening hand has to slow down your opponent or speed you up. If they are not doing that, they should be cut. Anyhow, this is just my opinion. Hope this helps. Good luck.
6 days ago
Those are all solid choices to remove to make room for more apostles. You also need to increase our land base, 35-37 lands.
6 days ago
Applying the formula in the Superior Numbers - Land Counts Article by Nate Burgess.
Number of lands = 31 + amount of colors in commander’s color identity + commander CMC, with 0-CMC mana rocks counting as lands.
31 + 3 () + 4 () = 38 Needed
1 week ago
Played this deck a few times yesterday and had some trouble dealing with "Indestructible" creatures (specifically, Soul of New Phyrexia and Spearbreaker Behemoth ). Thinking about adding Bonds of Mortality and maybe Hour of Devastation and/or Dismember . Any other ideas?
Also thinking about cutting down some of the more expensive dragons for cheaper ones (as painful as that will be). Going to try to include Damnation as well.
Mana Crypt occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.17%
U/R (Izzet): 0.53%
G/U (Simic): 0.58%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.72%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0.64%
BUG (Sultai): 0.73%