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Filth
Creature — Incarnation
Swampwalk
As long as Filth is in your graveyard and you control a Swamp, creatures you control have swampwalk.
treeforcorvus on
You "lose" the game
3 weeks ago
Looking pretty good! After some playtesting, I have more thoughts. Your landbase is pretty slow, and with 31 lands your deck wants a little more efficiency. Replace:
- Sandsteppe Citadel with Krosan Verge.
- Jungle Shrine with Mossfire Valley.
- Sandsteppe Citadel with Sungrass Prairie.
- Nomad Outpost with Shadowblood Ridge.
- Commander's Sphere with Chromatic Lantern: consider that each of the newer tri-lands cycle for 3 anyways, which means you have ~5 chromatic-lantern cost draws and cycling can't be conventionally countered.
You've got a pretty trim list now, but I still have some suggestions.
First off, you need more ramp. Warrior's Oath looks good, but since it can't be searched by Sunforger, you're better off with ramp. I strongly recommend Tempt with Discovery, which is one of the most powerful land-search cards for a multicolor deck using green: You get any land, and then if any opponents search for lands you get that many more of any land.
Although Black Market Connections is superb, you might find more utility in Rites of Flourishing or Elven Chorus.
Djeru and Hazoret looks great, but since you're only running 16-17 other Legendary creatures excluding your commander, the odds will be 20%-25%. Not great. Consider the power of being able to flicker your commander in & out of play, allowing it to re-position targets: Ephemerate is cheap, or Eerie Interlude can protect your creatures from Wrath spells, but both spells can also be fetched with Sunforger, which improves your deck synergy.
Odric, Master Tactician looks good on paper, but he's much better when a deck is built around him. Here are 4 better options:
- Brutal Hordechief. Since you run no wraths, this is damn good.
- Triumph of the Hordes: Game finisher!!
- Glory -protection allows your creatures to connect, and you can survive wrath cards.
- Filth + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth gets unblockable creatures. If you go this route, replace Warrior's Oath with Crop Rotation.
fluffyeel on
F*** Kevin
2 months ago
I don't see the problem with this deck. Not at all. However, I have some suggestions to make it even more "fun" for Kevin:
- The Filth and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth combo seems like a fun addition. Not only do I recommend Urborg (and, for that matter, Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth in general for decks, but this one means your creatures won't be getting blocked. (Good luck to your opponents!)
- For more things that bring friends with them, you could also think about Junji, the Midnight Sky and Priest of Fell Rites as other reanimators; I get good mileage out of them. Athreos, God of Passage is a sacrifice pay-off I've found to be quite noxious for some people to deal with, and I also quite like Yawgmoth, Thran Physician as a sacrifice outlet.
- Yosei, the Morning Star, Archon of Cruelty, Archfiend of Despair, Questing Beast, The Gitrog Monster, Thalia and The Gitrog Monster, and Kogla, the Titan Ape are nice payoff creatures I recommend. Drana and Linvala and Linvala, Keeper of Silence can also be supremely annoying for your opponents to try to deal with, which is also why I highly recommend them.
- Sylvan Library would combo extremely well with Underrealm Lich and Abundance, but it can be an expensive card cost-wise.
- If you do find your mana ramping to quite high totals, Genesis Wave is well worth considering.
- In decks like this, I still don't feel comfortable without some pinpoint removal tools. My favorites are Vindicate, Anguished Unmaking, Assassin's Trophy, and Swords to Plowshares, but this can be also dependent on your playgroup. I might also recommend the typical suite of tutors (for you, Enlightened Tutor, Worldly Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Diabolic Intent, and Expedition Map would be at the top of my list), but that's maybe less important.
- Field of the Dead is a close-to-auto-include for me in a deck like this, but don't get it just for this.
fluffyeel on
Help make deck good
2 months ago
Unfortunately, to up the power level, some of the things I will recommend might be pricey (cost-wise), but I'm already seeing some places to improve.
- Entomb and Buried Alive are good options to get your things into your graveyard that you can later reanimate with Scarab God. Alternately, Filth and Wonder are good things to put into the grave that give you added bonuses. (If you go the Filth route, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is super-valuable.)
- For mana rocks, Thran Dynamo, Gilded Lotus, and Chromatic Lantern are all very handy and budget-friendly. If you have them, of course there's also Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, and Chrome Mox, but don't just get them for this deck. (I happen to have opened them, so they move around between decks a lot.)
- The ultimate zombie enabler, to me, is Field of the Dead. You would need to likely swap some basics for snow-covered basics to make it work more, but the condition (7 lands with different names) is incredibly easy to meet. You can also go the route of some fetching (Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds, Fabled Passage, Polluted Delta, Prismatic Vista...). Watery Grave is also highly advised, along with Contaminated Aquifer, Ice Tunnel, Underground River, and Drowned Catacomb. Port of Karfell might also be worth considering.
- The best mill payoff from your opponents is Rise of the Dark Realms. Alternately, Reanimate, Animate Dead, and Extract from Darkness are great for bonus reanimation. Junji, the Midnight Sky is another possible option. Desertion
and Aethersnatch are also good to take your opponents' things before they knew what hit them.
- More tutoring. Expedition Map will help for lands; Vampiric Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Diabolic Intent are good in general; Lim-Dul's Vault is, I find, underappreciated and very handy. Fact or Fiction is also handy to get through your deck and get fun things into the graveyard (or make your opponents wonder what's happening).
- The Meathook Massacre, Damnation, and Cyclonic Rift are extremely handy for removal. The first is also a bonus payoff if your zombies die in the process! Yawgmoth, Thran Physician is also super-useful when it comes to removal, turning your zombies into both extra cards and weakening your opponents' creatures.
- High-cost things: Force of Will, Force of Negation, Mana Drain, and Commandeer are useful for control and making sure things don't stick and Memory Jar for filling up graveyards.
J0TheG3ntleG14nt on
Chapter 1: Subway Rats Don't Play Around
2 months ago
First Edit: -Out: Altar of Dementia nice in theory but didn't really use it well. Felt out of place. -In: Filth. If I'm running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, I might as well try and make all rats have swampwalk
radvision on
Oooo, a Chainer That Doesn't Need Oracle Text
3 months ago
I love this deck and it's cool to see you've updated in the last year! Since you have Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth in your deck, I would recommend picking up Filth to give all your creatures swampwalk from the graveyard! I know it's a little expensive though rip
legendofa on
infinite rats
4 months ago
debuf If I came across as accusatory, that wasn't my intent. Stress happens to everyone. It's all good.
The swampwalk trick is a good thing to keep in mind. I would use it in a deck, with maybe a third color, that has good graveyard availability for Filth and some land-specific searches like Expedition Map or Sylvan Scrying. It's a good strategy for picking up an unexpected win, but this deck does that very well already.
For Maze of Ith, if a creature is attacking, you can tap Maze to make that creature not be attacking. It's useful to save one of your creatures after your opponent uses a combat trick that would kill it, or to prevent an opponent's big smashy creature from hurting you. If your opponent attacks with Atarka, World Render, you can tap Maze to nullify the attack.
legendofa on
infinite rats
4 months ago
Patience, patience. While swampwalk + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is a sound idea in theory, I'm going to advise against it. Your commander grants good evasion already, especially against a deck, and Filth and Leshrac's Rite pretty much useless if you don't have Urborg TOY in play. It's not worth using a Diabolic Tutor or whatever just to get some redundant evasion, and you don't have any other way to get a land on demand. Stick with the fear from Cover of Darkness and Marrow-Gnawer.
debuf on
infinite rats
4 months ago
hey legendofa, do you think some swampwalk-giving cards would work, like Filth or Leshrac's Rite, asking because it would work well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.
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