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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Mythic Rare|
|Scars of Mirrodin (SOM)||Mythic Rare|
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Geth, Lord of the Vault
Legendary Creature — Zombie
Intimidate (This creature can't be blocked except by artifact creatures and/or creatures that share a colour with it.)
: Put target artifact or creature card with converted mana cost X from an opponent's graveyard onto the battlefield under your control tapped. Then that player puts the top X cards of their library into their graveyard.
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Geth, Lord of the Vault Discussion
2 months ago
If you want the battlecruiser feel for a zombie-centric build, it's hard to beat Rot Hulk (especially in a multiplayer situation) for suddenly swinging the boardstate. You might also appreciate Geth, Lord of the Vault as a way to 'borrow' powerful artifacts or creatures in a late-game stalemate.
3 months ago
You have mill stuff, you have steal-y stuff, you have reanimator-y stuff, seems like a good home for Geth, Lord of the Vault . It's a little on the expensive side, for both Mana and money, but might be worth the investment.
4 months ago
Heh, it's been awhile. Thank you for the suggestions on my deck, sorry I promised I'd get to this and didn't get back to it sooner. Awesome build, loving the theft theme of the deck.
- Torment of Hailfire ; it feels alright to run, but I'd consider playing Exsanguinate . It does one job and does it well, and gives you a bit of insurance.
- Liliana, Dreadhorde General and Chandra, Awakened Inferno are incredibly powerful planeswalkers, and if that's what you need them for, heck, that's a good enough reason. However, they ain't really on theme; maybe Geth, Lord of the Vault instead? Same high-end cost, similar powerful presence, and really supports what you want to do. Etali, Primal Storm , Sepulchral Primordial , Diluvian Primordial , and Wrexial, the Risen Deep are all awesome big drops as well.
- Mystic Remora or Rhystic Study is a great question, however, even through Remora's sucky cumulative upkeep and not hitting creatures, it does still only drop for 1 mana.
- And my personal favorite, Herald of Leshrac . Kinda Jank, but ahh, it's so good.
4 months ago
You may add Geth, Lord of the Vault to take a creature from target opponent graveyard, and then mill that opponent to put creatures in his or her graveyard and use that creatures with Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni or to activate another time the Geth's ability.
5 months ago
Being honest I don't see how either of those two cards fit flavorwise ^^' The crab doesn't seem that good, in that, almost all my creatures are either big or stolen. However, Geth, Lord of the Vault is an interesting card, stealing stuff from the graveyard. Another card with similar abilities and maybe a bit more flavorful is The Scarab God (more flavorful in that he's a god). I'll have to consider either of those two.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion! :D
5 months ago
5 months ago
Undead Gladiator springs immediately to mind: he helps you dump big reanimation targets into your graveyard, smooths your early draws with his cycling. To put him in, I'd probably cut Risen Executioner , who seems like a non-bo with your suite of graveyard-fillers. If your deck is working the way it should, it'll probably be too expensive to cast the Executioner from your graveyard.
6 months ago
“I lack knowledge of cEDH (I only do casual/semi-competitive) but how much politics really are there?”
Like I started to say last night before I got super tired realizing how long it would take to throw my two cents in here, if you’re playing against more than one player, you’re playing politics. I would go so far as to say if you’re dueling there’s some politics involved.
Right now, any given deck I have can sit at any table and compete regardless of what anyone else is doing. That’s because I’m not playing against those decks; I’m playing against those players. Unless you’re some kind of goddamned genius who can math a whole game out on the first play of the game, you can’t math your way to a win in a pod. So you have to play the players.
Also, yea cEDH is a thing, but I don’t put much stock in that. I’ve played shit that shouldn’t compete but does, and I’ve played competitive shit that gets owned. I heard somewhere (don’t ask me where) that you should only expect to win about 25% of your edh games if you play in 4-pods, but I win a little more than that on a typical game day playing against competitive people with serious collections. Long story short, it’s more how much knowledge of the game you have and politics than almost anything else. I’d say deck is the other half if it’s good, polished, and you run it well, but less if those aren’t true.
“Everyone is playing something threatening. How do you even determine threat assessment in a meta like that, let alone politics?”
This ranking is probably the best way I can break down threats. It’s not comprehensive but it’s a basic idea of how I value cards in a typical game.
A-Rank: WILL CAUSE YOU TO LOSE THE FUCKING GAME. KILL IT WITH FIRE. Your entire existence becomes devoted to dealing with this shit or convincing someone else to do it so everyone doesn’t lose. Some loose examples: a noticeable combo on the stack, a slow but repeatable loop, Paradox Engine , Omniscience , Doubling Season , lock pieces, soft lock pieces, and infinite mana. Also, just personally: Mindslaver or Telepathy . I fuck anyone who plays that shit up right away, and fuck you for playing it!
B-Rank: B is for Badasses. This is the Hot Shit people play that can—immediately or in the long run—outvalue your sorry ass and control the game, just more fairly than A-rank cards. This is typically creatures. Some loose examples: Geth, Lord of the Vault , Consecrated Sphinx , any of the praetors (yes, including Urabrask), Most Eldrazi, Armageddon type spells, most planeswalkers, Avenger of Zendikar , and Lurking Predators .
C-Rank: basically everything else: the filler that helps polish decks (tutors, Rhystic Study , etc), utility lands, etc. It’s the shit you decided to include to help fuel your win condition. It’s typically good but not necessarily a threat.
“Just trying to understand your position as I don't have much experience with cEDH.”
I honestly can’t stress enough about personal learning of this game. It’s difficult to see where you made mistakes, especially if nobody is there to point them out or help you. But taking the time to reflect a little (internally or with friends; this is a social game) goes a long way. So maybe you don’t “cEDH”, but I bet you’ve had some crazy games with fuckin dumb interactions that took 15 minutes to resolve. Learn from that shit :-)
“I'm sure the blue player would be cool with you beating T&T to death since Flash Hulk, but then once flash hulk dies, you have to face terefi and deveri on ur own.”
Yea I don’t worry about all that. I can only play the deck that I’m playing. This statement probably won’t be helpful, but I can kind of just “see” what needs to happen. I think a lot of it comes with experience, and some of it in knowing decks and cards that decks are probably playing, but the best way to win is to know your deck, play it well, and play around the shit everyone else is doing so that you can keep doing your stuff. Someone dropped Rest in Peace ? You can still take beatdown boulevard. Someone playing heavy counters? Probably can’t counter everything, so gang up on them luring it all out and land something gross. Meta adjusts to hate you because you’re becoming “that guy”? Adjust accordingly. It’s a dynamic game and there’s always more to learn ( Chains of Mephistopheles interactions or Faerie Artisans , for instance).
I hope this helped. If it didn’t I’ll still feel good about it.
Geth, Lord of the Vault occurrence in decks from the last year
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