Thought Vessel

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Harbinger69 on New Tibalt- Sen triplets with horns

1 week ago

I see someone else has already started brewing the new commander. I really like where the deck is heading! Here are a couple suggestions I would give for the brew:

Sorceries:

-1 Ashen Powder...Seems like a worse Reanimate at way too high a cmc

-1 Beacon of Unrest... In general I dont think you'll be getting enough cards in opponent's graveyards for this to matter very much

-1 Crux of Fate... No dragons in the deck, doesn't seem incredibly good at 5 mana, but you can keep this one in without a huge problem.

I'm noticing maybe too much emphasis on a theft style of play? I personally would go the route of controlling your opponents hand and board until you can ramp to Tibalt and pop off, though this is your choice.

Instants:

-1 Grab the Reins...7 mana for getting a little value out of a creature the destroying it just isn't good enough when you could be devoting that slot to better ramp options (which this deck desperately needs)

Mana Base:

Nothing much to say here, maybe cut a mountain or two for some swamps for better mana? Maze of Ith seems good for protecting walker Tibalt in a pinch

Creatures:

-1 Stormfist Crusader... One extra card per opponent usually won't matter

-1 Zealous Conscripts... Too expensive and not impactful enough without a Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combo package

Artifacts:

-1 Glasses of Urza... this card will never be relevant. Ever.

Enchantments:

Nothing much to say here in terms of cutables.

PWs:

-1 Angrath, the Flame-Chained... To expensive, too little payoff

-1 Ob Nixilis Reignited...inefficient card draw/removal engine

Cards to Consider

• Thran Dynamo

• Attrition

• Rakdos Signet

• Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools

• Talisman of Indulgence

• Thought Vessel?

• Mana Crypt

• Mana Vault

• Commander's Sphere

• Kazuul's Fury  ^Flip

• Captivating Crew

• Mob Rule

Note: Add more sacrifice outlets like Yawgmoth, Thran Physician or Phyrexian Altar to prevent your opponents from getting any creatures you stole back. Additionally, I would suggest to find a few more cards of removal and focus on making the deck play as smoothly as possible. Really love where the deck is headed. Good work =)

Omniscience_is_life on First attempt BW

1 week ago

EDH decks tend to run a lot of ramp, good examples of such are Mind Stone, Arcane Signet, Thought Vessel, Wayfarer's Bauble, Solemn Simulacrum, Burnished Hart, Charcoal Diamond, and Fellwar Stone. The "correct" (heavy quotes, obviously subjective) number to aim for in the ramp/card draw categories is 10 each.

Also, sadly enough, Planeswalkers aren't allowed as commanders unless specifically mentioned otherwise, but it looks like you've already found Rankle so he's a good replacement option.

In the card draw/advantage categories Big Erebos is strong, as well as Geth's Grimoire. You might also consider cutting Ornithopter--doesn't seem to have much synergy or do much of anything, really.

Polaris on Can I bounce something to …

3 weeks ago

No, because Nim Deathmantle is an equipment, not a creature, and Erratic Portal clearly only bounces creatures.

The answer to your main question (Can I return a creature that costs 2 to my hand and discard it to counter Thought Vessel?) is yes. Once Thought Vessel is on the stack, players can respond with any instant speed spells and abilities before it resolves. You can respond to them casting Thought Vessel by activating Erratic Portal to bounce your creature, then once the creature is in your hand discard it to activate Kozilek's counter ability.

Technically you're not holding priority because the active player (your opponent, since it's their turn and something just finished resolving) will get priority after Erratic Portal's ability resolves, but you just wait for them to pass priority and then activate Kozilek. Priority is an important thing for more-complex interactions but it doesn't matter in this scenario; it defines the order that players get to decide whether to do something, but priority has to pass to everyone before something resolves so it doesn't matter too much.

hejtmane on Budget VS $$$$

3 weeks ago

Jewled Lotus is a trap card in a lot of decks for it's $$$$ amount. I am not saying it is a bad card that would be a lie; but it is not an auto include in every commander deck it can become a dead card even in cedh. Jewled Lotus is best when leveraged in the correct decks and that is not auto included in every cedh deck should tell you something about that card when cedh is a fast mana game.

Fast mana period helps; Mana crypt is a great card but that's at least $80 bucks and if that and sol ring are your only fast mana then you are spending big money on a small upgrade to the mana base.

Fast mana always helps and you can start with talisman and signets they are cheaper and a lot of your other 2 cost mana rocks Thought Vessel just reprinted so it's a $1.50 cards like Fellwar Stone are examples of classic fast 2 mana rocks.

Now if you want a mana crypt go right ahead it is at $80 vs the previous $100+ and it will eventually go back up unless they reprint it again next year.

Just realize that you need more than those for fast mana and that does not even count fetch lands that help mana fixing or even shocklands etc type lands that do not come in tapped and fix mana

multimedia on Ghired Populate

1 month ago

Hey, consider Eldrazi Displacer with Ghired? Repeatable blink at instant speed, more Rhino tokens, protects Ghired in combat after he attacks, can tap down an opponent's blocker or remove an attacker, can protect Ghired from targeted removal, blink another creature who has an ETB trigger, etc. You will have to build the manabase around and use mana rocks for colorless mana sources for Displacer, but in my opinion it's worth it because you're not adding bad cards just for Displacer. Crop Rotation is helpful to tutor for a land that can make colorless.

• Sol Ring, Thought Vessel, 3 Talismans
• 3 Pain lands, 3 Filter lands
• Gavony Township, Rogue's Passage, Kessig Wolf Run
• Gargoyle Castle, Naya Panorama

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Zealous Conscripts combos with Kiki to attack with infinite Conscript tokens. Quartzwood Crasher and Court of Grace are excellent repeatable token sources. Open the Armory, Idyllic Tutor, Eladamri's Call, Chord of Calling are tutors with prices that are within the budget.

Nature's Lore and Three Visits are two drop land ramp for a Forest dual land. Swords to Plowshares, Beast Within, Heliod's Intervention are helpful instant removal spells. Austere Command is a versatile board wipe.

Eternal Witness is good card recursion especially with Displacer. Feldon of the Third Path can create a token of any creature in your graveyard to then populate that token with Ghired. If you control Ghired Akroma's Will can wreck your opponents with your token army.

If interested I offer more advice in another comment including suggestions of cards to cut. Good luck with your deck.

Monomanamaniac on Cancer Ward

1 month ago

Decent deck. You might think about getting that average cmc below 2.5 but besides that I like it

So don't take my recommendations as me disliking your deck, but I'd suggest adding Eidolon of Blossoms,Enchantress's Presence, Fertile Ground, Sigil of the Empty Throne, Wild Growth, Overgrowth, Tuvasa the Sunlit, Setessan Champion, Bear Umbra, Winds of Wrath, Arcane Signet, Thought Vessel. But consider which of the higher cmc ones you y like because average cmc is important

Suggested cuts would be: Charisma, Thornweald Archer, Rofellos's Gift, Grimoire of the Dead, Traverse the Ulvenwald, Predator Ooze, Revoke Existence, Rayne, Academy Chancellor, Lux Cannon, Stonecoil Serpent, Behemoth Sledge, Necropede, Wall of Denial, Spawning Grounds (as cool as it is, it's likely going to get the land it's on blown up), and think about taking out some of your etb tapped lands. Again these are suggestions and in no way am I saying these cards aren't good.

Anyways, hope it helps and I do like the deck, estrid proliferate is a good place for this commander

DemonDragonJ on Clash of the Titans

1 month ago

I have replaced Arcane Encyclopedia with Thought Vessel, which lowered this deck's average converted mana cost from 4.48 to 4.47, because, as great as the encyclopedia is, with this deck's high mana curve, it is more important to have both redundancy with Reliquary Tower and additional sources of mana.

FLATSO99 on Scarab God Zombies

1 month ago

Nice Deck, here's a +1! This is running a bit to much land. I recommend running about 35 lands for a deck like this. With the high density of mana intensive spells in this deck you could benefit from beefing up your ramp base. A few budget options for ramp in these colors are: Arcane Signet, Thought Vessel, Mind Stone, Prismatic Lens, Fellwar Stone, and one the slightly more expensive side Talisman of Dominance. I also think your deck could use more card draw and cantrips. A few options are Rhystic Study, Phyrexian Arena, and Kindred Discovery (If these are to far out of budget let me know I will give some more affordable suggestions). As for cantrips: Brainstorm, Ponder, and Preordain are all excellent! Hope you find this helpful and happy tapping!