Thought Vessel

Artifact

You have no maximum hand size.

{T}: Add {C}.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vintage	Legal
Casual	Legal
Custom	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal

Discussion (49)

DawnsRayofLight on Chainer, Dementia Master

4 days ago

As someone who has played Chainer for close to a decade, I have some suggestions I would like to offer. (though everyone's decks run differently!)

34-35 lands is usually enough. I would recommend 34 with Agadeem's Awakening  ^Flip that gives you 5 spots:

In those spots:

Mana Crypt

Thought Vessel

Charcoal Diamond

Coldsteel Heart

Jet Medallion

(Or all the expensive artifacts like Grim Monolith or what have you)

In place of:

1x Cast Down--> Lethal Scheme: This card is amazing in any reanimator list

1x Culling the Weak--> Phyrexian Altar: you need more sac outlets with some staying power

1x Dismember--> Soul Transfer: seems janky, but versatile

1x Doom Blade--> Baleful Mastery: you can hit more with it.

1x Go for the Throat--> Infernal Grasp

1x Power Word Kill--> Deadly Rollick/Altar of Dementia: for a better killspell or for a sac outlet

1x Sacrifice--> Ashnod's Altar: need more sac outlets with staying power

1x Terror--> Meteor Golem: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove

1x Victim of Night--> Karn Liberated: This guy helps so much with things Black cannot remove

Cruel Tutor--> Mikaeus, the Unhallowed: bonkers for some staying power, also has combo potential

Unmarked Grave--> Putrid Goblin: this or Walking Ballista are good for combos with Mikaeus. Putrid GOblin + Ashnod's Altar/Phyrexian Altar + Mikaeus = infinite mana (or sub ashnod's altar for mill).

Suggested Drops, see next list for suggested replacements

Blood Pet--> sort of an eh card, I might think of something with more oomph

Liliana, Heretical Healer  ^Flip--> I do like her, she just never did anything when I ran her.

Ruthless Technomancer: I have debated a lot adding him, in something like Korvold, he is an all-star, in chainer, he can be good, but I would almost always rather have Disciple of Bolas

Skirge Familiar: I get the reason it is in here, but there are better cards.

Black Market: It's nice, but can be too slow.

Liliana of the Dark Realms: I just have never been a big fan, she feels too lackluster.

Final Parting: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough

Sidisi, Undead Vizier: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough

Rune-Scarred Demon: good card, but I feel you can part with some tutor because you have MORE than enough, there also some stronger creatures to fit in the spot.

Suggestions

Archon of Cruelty: expensive mana wise but an all star.

Kokusho, the Evening Star: has been in my deck from the beginning and has flat out won me games.

Brainstealer Dragon: seems janky, but I added to just try it and it has been amazing.

Black Market Connections: You need more draw (also helps with ramp)

Phyrexian Arena: You need more draw

Bolas's Citadel: an amazing card. Wins games all the time.

Disciple of Bolas: card draw and life gain

Fell Stinger: card draw

Xiahou Dun, the One-Eyed: Great for recursion

Reanimate, Liliana, Death's Majesty, Living Death. and Animate Dead: it is good to have other means of reanimation if Chainer keeps getting removed (I also suggest sac outlets to help keep your creatures from getting exiled when they spot remove Chainer)

Hope this helps! Here is my list to maybe show you how I run the list: The True Meaning of Death and Taxes

DemonDragonJ on 100 Shades of Gray

3 weeks ago

I have replaced Commander's Sphere with Decanter of Endless Water, because, as great as the sphere is, I need the redundancy with Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower, since this deck has a great number of ways to draw cards.

TypicalTimmy on Is Razaketh a Good Match …

4 weeks ago

You're better off running Vilis, Broker of Blood and drawing an absolutely insane number of cards each time you cast your Commander. Just use things such as Thought Vessel, Venser's Journal and Reliquary Tower so you don't discard down to hand size each turn.

If you run 8 or 10 removal spells, chances are highly favorable you'll merely draw into whatever you'd want to tutor in the first place, as an example.

Sure Raz can tutor a bunch of cards by paying life and sacrificing creatures. But you also need a boardstate that can function with that.

Vilis comes with built in removal with his -1/-1 ability, and draws you cards for it as well.

I mean just run both, but if I had to choose I'd say Vilis because he holds immense synergy with your Commander. When you pay 6 life to cast her for the 4th time, that's 6 cards in hand. Versus 1 tutored card.

The tutor may be better, but again just balance your deck appropriately and run redundancy.

TypicalTimmy on Deckbuilding Necessities?

1 month ago

Thought Vessel / Reliquary Tower because discarding to hand size sucks

DemonDragonJ on Commander Legends: Battle for Baldur's …

1 month ago

Decanter of endless water is a welcome addition to the family of inexpensive but very useful mana-generating artifacts, and I will have no objection to using it in my decks, but it may not automatically replace Thought Vessel in every situation, since it is more expensive. One mana may not be a major difference, but it could be crucial, in certain situations, and the decanter also faces competition from both Commander's Sphere and Chromatic Lantern at 3 mana, so I do not wish to say that it shall be useless, but it does have strong competition. However, another efficiently-costed mana rock with a useful secondary ability is always a good thing, so I shall not immediately dismiss it.

Guerric on Torbran - Burn of Red Fell

2 months ago

Gratuitous Violence, Furnace of Rath, Dictate of the Twin Gods, and Fiery Emancipation type effects are fun with Torbran. Underworld Breach is also a nice way to re-use some of your instants and sorceries for a turn. While this is pretty low to the ground, I'd still try to put more ramp in it. Arcane Signet, Coldsteel Heart, Fire Diamond, Worn Powerstone, and Thought Vessel are good options for mono-colored. Endless Atlas is also a good draw engine for mono-colored decks.

JANKYARD_DOG on ZADA... EXPLODE!

3 months ago

Invoke Calamity and/or Finale of Promise while a bit expensive MV wise I think it could prove useful. Not entirely sure but perhaps you could copy Ancestral Anger to gain additonal pluses once the OG is in the yard?. Thought Vessel if you feel you need a second relequary tower. Fall of the Hammer can help clear the road of blockers.

Unfortunately removing things is not my forte, so I can only make suggestions for additions. Hopefully something piques your interest.

Basshunter on When Lazav steals your deck tech and makes you cry

3 months ago

Hi Elmalco, i got a Lazav deck aswell. Feel free to visit it: My deck

I found some really good Ideas in your deck, I maybe get the Artisans, the Gearhulk and a Sakashima for myself..and maybe i can give you some interesting cards aswell.

I actually dont like the jace planeswalker, did you ever get him to -10? You could run Maddening Cacophony instead.

So I think you dont need the Thought Vessel for a {U}{U}{B}{B} commander, get something like Wayfarer's Bauble or Prophetic Prism instead.

And I really suggest you Soul Shatter. This card is amazing to get around indestructible and remove the 3 best cards of our opponents.

Feel free to give me some help. Regards