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3 weeks ago
Nice deck! Keeping your budget in mind I have some suggestions.
You have a severe lack of card draw, which green is surprisingly good at. Cards like Primordial Sage , Regal Force , Soul of the Harvest , and Beast Whisperer are all really good for card draw. Garruk, Primal Hunter and Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury are also good for card draw as well as the rest of their abilities. You might be worried about drawing too many cards after Primal Surge goes off. Cards like Abundance , Words of Wilding , Pursuit of Knowledge , and Possessed Portal can prevent you from decking yourself after Surge resolves. Skullclamp is a good way to draw more cards, too.
I think you can cut a lot of the enters tapped and cycling lands for more basics. You want to be able to search for lands even late in the game because not being able to find anything anymore doesn't feel great, and currently you would need all of your plains out to make Emeria trigger which isn't a lot. Not to mention if anything were to happen to a single one of your plains then Emeria doesn't do anything extra. If the land can't add more than one color of mana and if it doesn't do anything substantial for you then I'd consider cutting it and replacing it with a basic. While a bit pricey, Smothering Tithe is great if you have one.
You'll want to win as soon as Surge resolves. I see you have Odric, but none of your creatures have haste nor do you have a way to grant it. Craterhoof Behemoth is probably outside of your budget currently, but End-Raze Forerunners shouldn't be. Akroma, Angel of Wrath , or even Akroma's Memorial can be fine. You are also missing a couple mana dorks, if you can find them, in the form of Fyndhorn Elves , Birds of Paradise , and, although not a dork in the traditional sense, Karametra's Acolyte .
Well what to cut? There's some cards that don't do much for you. Sunspring Expedition for example gains you life, which doesn't get you closer to winning. What you cut is up to you, but a good rule of thumb is if it doesn't put you closer to winning or set your opponents back then it's probably not worth the slot. It's a tough rule to follow sometimes because damn do I love me some less than stellar cards but it helps in the end.
Overall the list looks good, though. I can't wait to lose to it!
1 month ago
These are musts IMO, then, I see you are running no ramp at all: Simic Signet , Azorius Signet and Selesnya Signet and since you are running green you have access to: Cultivate , Kodama's Reach etc etc, you could certainly cut off some creatures to make this bad boy even scarier, and in a more competitive way, there is Food Chain + Misthollow Griffin / Eternal Scourge since that will give you infinite draw and land drops. My version is by far any competitive, I made a Druid tribal EDH with him, so if you want to catch up some ideas, here is the list! :) Tales to be Told
1 month ago
Burgeoning Exploration Solemn Simulacrum Skyshroud Claim Nature's Lore Farseek Abundance Sylvan Library Gush Kodama's Reach Sakura-Tribe Elder Sporemound Mana Breach Overburden Wood Elves Yavimaya Elder Llanowar Scout Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip Burnished Hart Farhaven Elf Explore Splendid Reclamation Nissa's Renewal Boundless Realms Nissa's Pilgrimage Animist's Awakening Far Wanderings Life from the Loam Grow from the Ashes Collective Voyage Horn of Greed Ghirapur Orrery Rites of Flourishing Into the Wilds Temple of the False God Myriad Landscape Amulet of Vigor Ghost Town Urban Evolution The Mending of Dominaria Thawing Glaciers Cultivate Sylvan Ranger Manabond Skyshroud Ranger Coral Atoll Ensnare Fathom Seer Flooded Shoreline Meloku the Clouded Mirror Parallax Tide Planar Overlay Storm Cauldron Tidal Bore Thwart Trade Routes Tragic Lesson Uyo, Silent Prophet
1 month ago
Thanks for the comments, everyone!
Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor, that's some great input. Unfortunately, I won't be adding Scapeshift or Crucible of Worlds to the deck, as they are out of my budget. Adding Gitrog and Angry Omnath is going to be costly enough right now. Need for Speed is interesting, though. Would you run that over Concordant Crossroads if you have one? Having another land sac outlet is nice.
Poly_raptor, thanks for all the ideas. Ramunap Excavator will get added, but not Crucible of Worlds , for budgetary reasons. I don't mind that Rites of Flourishing benefits others at the table; I run it in several decks. I guess the question is, do you think I'll need to run it once I get The Gitrog Monster and Mina and Denn, Wildborn added into the deck? I'm just trying to make sure I've got enough extra land drop outlets to run faster, and it's budget friendly; I'm not going in on Azuza, Lost but Seeking (your wallet) or Oracle of Mul Daya because the prices on those cards are ludicrous. I might have a copy of Burgeoning to add in, though.
As for the lands: Darigaaz's Caldera is already in, and I think I'll add in Undiscovered Paradise , and perhaps Ghost Town later on (it doe work in my Tatyova deck). Thawing Glaciers is great, but too pricey once again. Also, thank you guys for the land count considerations, too. I'll have to experiment with it. I've noticed with the current count, I've always got plenty.
The land droppers are under consideration; I just don't know where I'll have room for them once I get everything else I want crammed into this.
Is Groundskeeper worth keeping around?
1 month ago
We gave your request a lot of thought. Our main objective was to keep the spirit of the deck the same. So we decided to try and find replacements for the more expensive cards while keeping the original thought of the replaced cards alive. Naturally this would mean we would end up with cards that are either slightly less effective at what the expensive cards do, or they have a higher CMC, or both.
Almost all replacements we have chosen cost below 1 dollar. Some of the replaced cards are cards we do not own, so we decided not to post a new deck as we only do so when we own all the cards in it. So, here is a list of the replacements we would make in order to turn this into a less expensive deck:
- Forest for all the non-basic lands
- Hermit of the Natterknolls Flip for Beast Whisperer
- Ivy Lane Denizen for Bloodspore Thrinax
- End-Raze Forerunners for Craterhoof Behemoth
- Wirewood Channeler for Elvish Archdruid
- Skullwinder for Eternal Witness
- Rushwood Herbalist for Ezuri, Renegade Leader
- Evolutionary Leap for Fauna Shaman
- Elfhame Druid for Fyndhorn Elves
- Deadly Recluse for Hornet Queen
- Dwynen, Gilt-Leaf Daen for Joraga Warcaller
- Ant Queen for Mycoloth
- Nullmage Advocate for Nullmage Shepherd
- Centaur Rootcaster for Oracle of Mul Daya
- Thunderfoot Baloth for Pathbreaker Ibex
- Mul Daya Channelers for Priest of Titania
- Initiate's Companion for Quirion Ranger
- Runic Armasaur for Regal Force
- Yavimaya Elder for Sakura-Tribe Elder
- Llanowar Scout for Sakura-Tribe Scout
- Deathgorge Scavenger for Scavenging Ooze
- Fyndhorn Brownie for Scryb Ranger
- Rampaging Baloths for Seedborn Muse (we know, not quite the same functions)
- Archetype of Endurance for Asceticism
- Overrun for Beastmaster Ascension
- Abundance for Burgeoning / Exploration
- Beast Within for Song of the Dryads
- Nature's Claim for Krosan Grip
- Vitalize for Benefactor's Draught
- Shared Summons for Green Sun's Zenith / Genesis Wave
- Mask of Avacyn for Lightning Greaves / Swiftfoot Boots
- Sol Ring for Worn Powerstone
We were not able to find suitable replacements (i.e.: cards that would do the same thing but be slightly less effective at it) for the following cards:
- Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
- Concordant Crossroads
- Mirri's Guile
- Quest for Renewal
- Heroic Intervention
- Worldly Tutor
- Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary
- Sensei's Divining Top
- Umbral Mantle
So if you have any suggestions for these, please let us know. For now, we hope we helped you a bit to make a cheaper version of our deck. Have fun brewing it!
Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980
2 months ago
Hey man it looks pretty good. I had some thoughts: Abundance seems like a fantastic value engine to keep consistently hitting the lands or not lands you want for chulane depending on circumstances. Zendikar's Roil and Risen Reef have a potential infinite that this deck can abuse
2 months ago
I keep suggesting this card for Chulane builds: Abundance . It effect is a replacement effect for the draw, and can guarantee that you always have a land to put into play when you cast a creature with Chulane out. If you play with Aluren and stick to 3 CMC creatures, you can do crazy crap.
Abundance occurrence in decks from the last year
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