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- Basalt Monolith + Mesmeric Orb
- Birds of Paradise + Mesmeric Orb + Pemmin's Aura
- Mesmeric Orb + Mortal Combat
Legality
| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Arena | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Freeform | Legal |
| Gladiator | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Historic | Legal |
| Historic Brawl | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Modern | Legal |
| Modern Beyond Horizons | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| PreDH | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Mesmeric Orb
Artifact
Whenever a permanent becomes untapped, that permanent's controller mills a card (They put the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
wozislightning on
Phenax
1 week ago
I like it. Very similar to my build.
A couple of quick thoughts: Aphetto Alchemist at worst untaps your biggest toughness guy for a second Phenax activation. He can also be pseudo-ramp if you have artifact mana. At best, he goes infinite with Illusionist's Bracers by targeting himself with the copied triggers.
As you have Undead Alchemist already, you get a similar effect from Zellix, Sanity Flayer
. Both of these work spectacularly with Altar of the Brood. The Altar is one of my favorite cards in my version.
As you have Grindstone, have you considered The Water Crystal? The crystal makes it so it looks at more cards, and if any 2 of the 6 match, the process repeats (refer to the updated wording on grindstone with the newer printing). The Crystal also works well with any effects that just mill an opponent for a single card, turning simple effects into quick clocks (Mesmeric Orb shines here).
Elrond, Moon-Reader is a card that I am waiting to get my hands on to add to my paper deck. It seems like quite consistent card draw.
Best of luck and happy brewing!
DreadKhan on
Lord Xander & Scarab God Counter
8 months ago
Is something like Traumatize too slow for you? The idea is you'd usually target yourself to feed your Commander, but you could always pick on an opponent instead. I also like Mesmeric Orb, you don't suffer as much as other people from the effects of serious mill.
I don't know if it's too mean for your meta, but Rakdos decks tend to get frustrated if they've built around their Commander and you use something like Imprisoned in the Moon or Oubliette on them. The best part, if they do random into (or even tutor for) Feed the Swarm you can just recast on your next turn since it should be in your graveyard.
Asder on
Azorius Vultron - Bruna, Light of Alabaster
11 months ago
Some self mill could be a good here. Some options worth thinking about are Jace's Archivist, Windfall, Mesmeric Orb, Traumatize (or similar effects), Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Tunnel Vision, Faithful Mending.
Goldberserkerdragon on
a milli
1 year ago
Seems really awesome. Seeing some good things! Seeing some odd choices, but I know the struggle of having what you have to work with. Budget, etc are factors. Anyway, been playing Syr Konrad since his release in 2019, have had many different builds and i cant stress enough: ramp. The deck can do things on its own but for the most part Konrad needs to be out asap. I would recommend cutting a few lands to thin it out and directly add ramp pieces. Play test and see where you need to go either less or more or for personal preference, but mana is Konrad's best friend. Even if you cant do anything but Konrad is out, you can dump all you got into his secondary.
Mesmeric Orb, Mindcrank, and Tortured Existence are golden here. Glad to see them! Hard to really play Konrad without them. Fun fact, Basalt Monolith combos with Mesmeric Orb. You just pay into itself to untap, tap it again, pay, untap... with the orb you got as much mill as you want.
Butcher's Cleaver, Collective Brutality, and Cruel Grimnarch seem a touch odd here, but again maybe it's the best you can do! And nothing wrong with that. Konrad really just cares about moving those bodies around however you can so abilities are secondary.
The last thing I would add is to focus more on mill that mills multiple or everyone instead of just yourself. I can't tell you how many times i've milled myself for a cool 3, hoping for mad creatures, and milled my vampiric tutor and mind crank itself and maybe that land I was really needing next draw... ha.
Anyway, hope this helps
- Cheers!
SlangNTrees13 on
1 year ago
Hey, really dig the deck! Ive been running it on xmage last few days and am well 70% win rate :)
One suggestion that made a big difference for me was to add some more non-knight mill to ensure we got knights in the yard. Just Mesmeric Orb (if you don't mind the hate) and Ripples of Undeath do the trick. Ripples is clutch as it mills and gives the option to tutor a non-knight card back to our hand in one each turn.
For knights, I switched probably 7ish to better suite my personal lower curve tastes, but a few ones I added I think are really strong to think about slotting in if you haven't caught them are Werefox Bodyguard, Ethersworn Adjudicator, Smitten Swordmaster and Knight of Dusk's Shadow.
Werefox is superb cause it's a reusable exile every time it hits the yard with commander damage trigger. Ethersworn although seems costly, is insanely good especially with Lightning Greaves added. (Ex. Had one game my Tithe was going off and I destroyed 4 creatures and untapped 5 times with Ethersworn in one main phase). Knight of Dusk I also think is clutch because I come up against a ton of combo lifegain ocelot pride etc. decks and this is a nice repeatable shut down effect for the deck that stops them in their tracks. Smittens adventure for one mana can also just end games and then you get your knight right back from his vacation for our other buffs.
I also think card draw addition is important with the draw / discard trigger and found myself running out of cards a few games too quickly, so I threw in Enduring Curiosity It does serious work with all our knights attacking and only 4 mana and returns as enchantment when it dies. Also another even lower cost one Dawn of a New Age has worked out really well for me and ensures us an extra card each turn once we get a few knights out for just 2 mana. Also added Mystic Remora cause we got blue why not.
My last real suggestion that has won games for me is adding Wonder all our knights having flying is just great and our draw discard and self mill is perfect synergy for it.
I lost The Circle of Loyalty for its high cost if we can't get the reduction and felt there's a fine amount of token production already (even though of course the theme is right on point!) and took out Basri's LT and a few of the other tribal buff lower mana cost knights for my mentioned additions. Also lost Swords for Toxic Deluge. Deluge is just so versatile, for just three mana it's too good a savior wipe I felt to leave out.
Sure you gone through sooooooo many knights for this one. I still have some pages to get through myself :D
sdtech58 on sdtech58
1 year ago
Demonic Tutor Grim Tutor Vampiric Tutor Mystical Tutor Entomb
Those would be the tutors I recommend.
If you want to stick with the mill theme, i'd recommend going to edhrec.com and putting in Gisa & Geralf as your CMDR and then you can choose the style of deck (Mill, Zombie, etc.) They will give you many more recommendations for the best cards to add. A few that I run with a different mill themed deck are:
Mesmeric Orb Mindcrank Maddening Cacophony
I personally think The Scarab God is a better Commander for a Mill themed deck because his activated ability can pull a creature from anyone's graveyard. So you can mill the crap out of yourself (and others) then pull their best creatures out of their graveyards
capwner on
The Capitoline Triad, or the Chronikoid
2 years ago
Mesmeric Orb is a pretty great way to fill your yard especially if you run Basalt Monolith with it. Good to see battlesphere and thopter assembly those were my first thoughts for spamming creature tokens to pump up. Maybe Inkmoth Nexus because 9/9 flying infect seems pretty good. This seems like really cool and unique commander! +1
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