Zuran Orb

Zuran Orb

Artifact

Sacrifice a land: You gain 2 life.

Latest Decks as Commander

Zuran Orb Discussion

Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor on Modern Horizons 2 Spoilers

2 months ago

Dermotaxi: The unexpected Phage the Untouchable tech

The fact that I can make infinite squirrels without Earthcraft just tickles me. Scurry Oak is going straight into my squirrel deck.

White got some nice new toys in Esper Sentinel and Solitude (actually a good card in the cycle which is rare)

Ragavan is pretty neat, not sure if it will replace Grenzo or Breeches at the helm of those style of decks, but I like the card

Piru is another awesome callback to deep MTG lore.

Lonis is fantastic. I love it when they print commanders for narrow archetypes

Not sure what all the hub-bub about Gaea's Will and Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth is about. The cards are strong but not too strong, and they fit perfectly within Green's color identity. Seem well designed to me. I could see Gaea's Presence being a bit gross in modern As Foretold or Living End decks, but that's about it It'd actually be nice to see a full cycle of Urborg and Yavimaya printed someday.

Nice to see some good $$ reprints in Greed , Mirari's Wake , Enchantress's Presence , Zuran Orb , and Sterling Grove . None of these will impact Modern, but it's great for commander. Other than the clear cash grab choice to print Cabal Coffers at mythic, the reprints have been on point this set so far.

DemonDragonJ on Modern Horizons 2 Spoilers

2 months ago

In my previous post, I meant to say that I wished that Imperial Recruiter and Zuran Orb had not been introduced to modern, but I made a mistake.

DemonDragonJ on Modern Horizons 2 Spoilers

2 months ago

I really wish that Imperial Recruiter and Zuran Orb had been introduced to modern, but further reprints of those cards are very nice.

However, I do like that the seals are being introduced to modern, since those are very nice cards, and I also would not mind seeing Temple of the False God reprinted in this set, since I feel that every format should have that card.

Flagellum on Steep Price to Pay (Dina, Soul Steeper)

3 months ago

Powerleech : would be great

Quiet Disrepair , Retreat to Hagra , Retreat to Kazandu , Jaddi Offshoot , Grazing Gladehart , Kazandu Nectarpot , Lifegift : Landfall and upkeep triggers. Run a land ramp package thanks to green to capitalize on these effects. Very budget friendly options

Zuran Orb / Dark Heart of the Wood : Eat the lands you accrued through the game. Throw in Splendid Reclamation for lolz and sac them all again

Omniscience_is_life on None

4 months ago

I don't get the flavor. The essence of life and mana are similar, but I don't think an Angel could convert one to the other--sounds almost like a clerical situation.

Also in game sense, White just doesn't have the capacity to churn out mana like that... it might make more sense to have it read "whenever you gain life, if an opponent controls more lands than you, you may search your library for a Plains and put it onto the battlefield tapped" (yes, I know Zuran Orb works well with that, don't think it matters). That seems to track well with what WotC are giving us atm

BenWin on [[Primer v3.5]] - OM_RATH!!! (M21 Update!!!)

7 months ago

I would like to add a few more thoughts to my previous post.

First I would like to double back and praise Steely Resolve. It may not be able to be tutored, but the protection it provides is unmatched. I always love drawing it, and there is usually no cost to playing it immediately. Worth it 100%, please reinclude.

Mana Vault. Yeah maybe not the best. Discard my thought on it.

Zuran Orb. Definitely troll because I only tend to get rewarded for slotting in World Shaper when I use Greater Good to draw into it (discard lands in the meantime), and cast it to win the game on that turn. No life gain needed in that scenario. As a side note, being able to sac lands for free can be useful to win the game with Titania, Protector of Argoth on the field. Except Sylvan Safekeeper can already for that.

Veil of Summer. This one WOWed me in testing. Unlike any other mechanic in our deck, this can protect an enchantment or tutor spell play. No need for Boseiju, Who Shelters All or whatever, this is the shit you love to draw. Not to mention that it obviously protects Omnath, Locus of Rage. And there's more! If you ever go off drawing cards, like with Greater Good, it's wonderful insurance for helping you complete your combo. In the worst scenario it often cycles itself. Other worst scenario, your opponents aren't playing blue, and you're also really happy?

elk88. Hi! I appreciate your break down of Strip Mine, it highlights the benefits quite well. Intuitively, I agree with you that it just plain makes sense in an EDH lands deck. However, I have found Strip Mine severely underwhelming. Maybe my play tables aren't an accurate representation of the general population of tables or I do not have a good conceptualization of the true potential of Strip Mine in context of our deck. Perhaps it doesn't pertain to my aggressive playstyle and fits better in a grindier one. There are many factors that could affect the usefulness of Strip Mine, but due to my personal experience, playstyle, and bias to my slightly different list, I have to respectfully disagree. At least for now. I hope you continue to have opportunities to test Strip Mine in your own list and I'd be interested to hear more about how it goes.

BenWin on [[Primer v3.5]] - OM_RATH!!! (M21 Update!!!)

7 months ago

Hi Guerte and _Arra_. Great discussion.

Skullclamp. Lets work through this more. The whole point of our deck is to maximize turns Omnath, Locus of Rage is in play and the landfall triggers we give him to make elementals. Saying those are requirements for Skullclamp are silly because we're doing that regardless of what we draw every game. The question is how much of the time will we be drawing a sac outlet to fuel Skullclamp? Well actually sac outlets are a huge component of our win-con because we often rely on our elementals dying to win. Key word dying. Doesn't matter whether it's to a sac outlet, board wipe like Blasphemous Act, combat, or removing our general. You can put Skullclamp on an elemental to dissuade attackers or blockers, or on Omnath, Locus of Rage to dissuade removal. And that's without a sac outlet. Realistically, with or without Skullclamp, if you aren't drawing into a sac outlet on average, you aren't running enough outlets! And after 1 proc you've already exceeded the cost of the single card that it is. The rest is bonus, and a steep potential for bonus that is, not to mention minimal CMC investment. And if more card draw is what you're looking for to justify cards like Gamble, then this card is even better than what it is alone. I also like Life's Legacy and Kavu Lair. I think draw is a really competitive component of any deck. If we're even asking ourselves if the deck has enough draw to support cards like Gamble, why not add more and start criticizing the cards we draw more than the draw engines themselves?

Perilous Forays. I value this card at its CMC because it's aggressive. Burn as an archetype is inherently aggressive, wouldn't you agree? If you draw it early then you have basics to burn for damage. If you draw it late with few basics left to tutor, then that means you've probably had quite a successful game already - aka you should be happy you've gotten this far! Look at Perilous Forays like insurance to the late game. And we all know what happens in late game - looking for hits like Greater Good to look for win-cons like Warstorm Surge. We love to see it!

Mana Vault. Another card you love to see early. Different from the previous example, you gain mana the first time you play Mana Vault, so I'm not sure why you'd be disappointed? Maybe it's that you wished you drew a different card because OM_RATH doesn't have the best card draw? I haven't tested as much, but similar mentality for me.

Zuran Orb. This one is a little bit of a meme, but I've been toying with the idea and I'd like to throw it out and see what happens. If you draw Zuran Orb and a sac outlet, similar to our Skullclamp example, you can tutor up World Shaper and sac all your lands in response to World Shaper trigger for a nutty turn. It's jank, but really think about it!!! :D

Strip Mine. Compare this to the Skullclamp example where for Skullclamp to truly activate you need a sac outlet. One difference in this juxtaposition is that now you need two things: extra land drops and graveyard recursion. Now assume we get them. Using Strip Mine is very different tempo wise in multiplayer commander than it would be in a 1v1 format. Say it's a 4 person CMD game. To get a tempo ahead you'd either have to play 1 land or destroy 3, one of each opponent's on average. I get that Strip Mine can destroy key lands like Cavern of Souls, but are we a policing deck or a deck that wants to play 1000 elementals and say try policing this? Ever since we cut Tempt with Discovery I think Strip Mine got a lot weaker for us. Temple of the False God was a thought, but I agree with you it's not great. Do you have any better ideas, even if it's adding a basic mountain back?

Sylvan Safekeeper. The difference between Sylvan Safekeeper and Strip Mine is that our opponents' removal spells will be more limited their lands. Trading one of our lands for a removal spell will be more valuable than trading land for land. I'm not saying that we should carelessly play Sylvan Safekeeper and sac all our lands, but we can tutor when we have a good foundation and we'll be fine.

Steely Resolve. It is a great card, better than Sylvan Safekeeper when it is in play, but it can't be tutored. What if we had a card that draws us cards in its place? That way we are drawing into more ways to ramp to keep up land production. This would be helpful if we'd like to rely more on Sylvan Safekeeper for protection which is more practical. Practical meaning that we have 3 tutors and a Sylvan Safekeeper meaning that we have up to 4 copies if we want. And this way we won't have to worry about drawing both Steely Resolve and Sylvan Safekeeper in the same game which is redundant. To be clear I respect the power of Steely Resolve, I'm just proposing a way we can justify filling its slot.

Load more