Sacrifice a land: You gain 2 life.
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Zuran Orb occurrence in decks from the last year
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Zuran Orb Discussion
1 month ago
I would like to add a few more thoughts to my previous post.
First I would like to double back and praise Steely Resolve. It may not be able to be tutored, but the protection it provides is unmatched. I always love drawing it, and there is usually no cost to playing it immediately. Worth it 100%, please reinclude.
Mana Vault. Yeah maybe not the best. Discard my thought on it.
Zuran Orb. Definitely troll because I only tend to get rewarded for slotting in World Shaper when I use Greater Good to draw into it (discard lands in the meantime), and cast it to win the game on that turn. No life gain needed in that scenario. As a side note, being able to sac lands for free can be useful to win the game with Titania, Protector of Argoth on the field. Except Sylvan Safekeeper can already for that.
Veil of Summer. This one WOWed me in testing. Unlike any other mechanic in our deck, this can protect an enchantment or tutor spell play. No need for Boseiju, Who Shelters All or whatever, this is the shit you love to draw. Not to mention that it obviously protects Omnath, Locus of Rage. And there's more! If you ever go off drawing cards, like with Greater Good, it's wonderful insurance for helping you complete your combo. In the worst scenario it often cycles itself. Other worst scenario, your opponents aren't playing blue, and you're also really happy?
elk88. Hi! I appreciate your break down of Strip Mine, it highlights the benefits quite well. Intuitively, I agree with you that it just plain makes sense in an EDH lands deck. However, I have found Strip Mine severely underwhelming. Maybe my play tables aren't an accurate representation of the general population of tables or I do not have a good conceptualization of the true potential of Strip Mine in context of our deck. Perhaps it doesn't pertain to my aggressive playstyle and fits better in a grindier one. There are many factors that could affect the usefulness of Strip Mine, but due to my personal experience, playstyle, and bias to my slightly different list, I have to respectfully disagree. At least for now. I hope you continue to have opportunities to test Strip Mine in your own list and I'd be interested to hear more about how it goes.
1 month ago
Skullclamp. Lets work through this more. The whole point of our deck is to maximize turns Omnath, Locus of Rage is in play and the landfall triggers we give him to make elementals. Saying those are requirements for Skullclamp are silly because we're doing that regardless of what we draw every game. The question is how much of the time will we be drawing a sac outlet to fuel Skullclamp? Well actually sac outlets are a huge component of our win-con because we often rely on our elementals dying to win. Key word dying. Doesn't matter whether it's to a sac outlet, board wipe like Blasphemous Act, combat, or removing our general. You can put Skullclamp on an elemental to dissuade attackers or blockers, or on Omnath, Locus of Rage to dissuade removal. And that's without a sac outlet. Realistically, with or without Skullclamp, if you aren't drawing into a sac outlet on average, you aren't running enough outlets! And after 1 proc you've already exceeded the cost of the single card that it is. The rest is bonus, and a steep potential for bonus that is, not to mention minimal CMC investment. And if more card draw is what you're looking for to justify cards like Gamble, then this card is even better than what it is alone. I also like Life's Legacy and Kavu Lair. I think draw is a really competitive component of any deck. If we're even asking ourselves if the deck has enough draw to support cards like Gamble, why not add more and start criticizing the cards we draw more than the draw engines themselves?
Perilous Forays. I value this card at its CMC because it's aggressive. Burn as an archetype is inherently aggressive, wouldn't you agree? If you draw it early then you have basics to burn for damage. If you draw it late with few basics left to tutor, then that means you've probably had quite a successful game already - aka you should be happy you've gotten this far! Look at Perilous Forays like insurance to the late game. And we all know what happens in late game - looking for hits like Greater Good to look for win-cons like Warstorm Surge. We love to see it!
Mana Vault. Another card you love to see early. Different from the previous example, you gain mana the first time you play Mana Vault, so I'm not sure why you'd be disappointed? Maybe it's that you wished you drew a different card because OM_RATH doesn't have the best card draw? I haven't tested as much, but similar mentality for me.
Zuran Orb. This one is a little bit of a meme, but I've been toying with the idea and I'd like to throw it out and see what happens. If you draw Zuran Orb and a sac outlet, similar to our Skullclamp example, you can tutor up World Shaper and sac all your lands in response to World Shaper trigger for a nutty turn. It's jank, but really think about it!!! :D
Strip Mine. Compare this to the Skullclamp example where for Skullclamp to truly activate you need a sac outlet. One difference in this juxtaposition is that now you need two things: extra land drops and graveyard recursion. Now assume we get them. Using Strip Mine is very different tempo wise in multiplayer commander than it would be in a 1v1 format. Say it's a 4 person CMD game. To get a tempo ahead you'd either have to play 1 land or destroy 3, one of each opponent's on average. I get that Strip Mine can destroy key lands like Cavern of Souls, but are we a policing deck or a deck that wants to play 1000 elementals and say try policing this? Ever since we cut Tempt with Discovery I think Strip Mine got a lot weaker for us. Temple of the False God was a thought, but I agree with you it's not great. Do you have any better ideas, even if it's adding a basic mountain back?
Sylvan Safekeeper. The difference between Sylvan Safekeeper and Strip Mine is that our opponents' removal spells will be more limited their lands. Trading one of our lands for a removal spell will be more valuable than trading land for land. I'm not saying that we should carelessly play Sylvan Safekeeper and sac all our lands, but we can tutor when we have a good foundation and we'll be fine.
Steely Resolve. It is a great card, better than Sylvan Safekeeper when it is in play, but it can't be tutored. What if we had a card that draws us cards in its place? That way we are drawing into more ways to ramp to keep up land production. This would be helpful if we'd like to rely more on Sylvan Safekeeper for protection which is more practical. Practical meaning that we have 3 tutors and a Sylvan Safekeeper meaning that we have up to 4 copies if we want. And this way we won't have to worry about drawing both Steely Resolve and Sylvan Safekeeper in the same game which is redundant. To be clear I respect the power of Steely Resolve, I'm just proposing a way we can justify filling its slot.
2 months ago
Theres an article on edhrec about him. It was running this janky combo Amulet of Vigor + Mirrorpool + Splendid Reclamation + Sunscorched Desert with a land sac outlets Zuran Orb and Sylvan Safekeeper - lots of moving parts but fairly easy to assemble with Scapeshift and a little luck.
2 months ago
Some really great powerhouse cards you could think of adding are Bolas's Citadel I have straight up ended games by going off with this card. The fact you gain so much life means you can usually go through quite a few cards off the top. Illusionist's Bracers doubles Vito's trigger. Twilight Prophet amazing card draw and damage on upkeep.
4 months ago
sean360, so far in my play testing, Song of Creation has been more helpful than not. Especially when I have flicker effects going and additional land play to abuse the mana out of Omnath, Locus of Creation. Casting cheap stuff to draw two has been such great value that even at entire discard it hasn’t been devastating. Side note, in a few games I had Teferi's Protection in hand to cast and avoid the entire hand from being discarded.
Metachemist, thanks for the great feedback! It has definitely helped spark a few ideas for inclusions. I did consider Chulane, Teller of Tales, Thassa, Deep-Dwelling, Thassa's Oracle and Zuran Orb in the beginning stages of construction of the deck, but later decided to have a heavier focus on beat down tokens. Your insight has made me want to kind of change the direction and include the suggested cards. Greatly appreciated!
4 months ago
Zuran Orb is a fantastic way to fuel up a massive game breaking scape shift. Thassa, Deep-Dwelling is a free flicker at End step. Roon of the Hidden Realm can allow you to refresh Omnath triggers via other people's turns. Same with Chulane, Teller of Tales combine either of the above with either Leyline of Anticipation and Seedborn Muse and every turn is your turn to slam down lands and pay them off with Omnath smacking everyone. With an ultimate finisher of Thassa's Oracle and you have all the goodness of a Bant flicker/Landfall deck combined with faster pay offs from Omnath to close out the game even faster.
Anyway these are just my thoughts of looking over your deck and thank you for letting me ramble.
4 months ago
Zendikar Rising spoilers has started, and in the tradition of all Zendikar sets, it's time to reevaluate the lands matter decks.
Some updates: Zuran Orb out for Exploration. Decree of Pain out for Toxic Deluge. Bringing in a Heroic Intervention as well, in place of Price of Glory. I want some more interaction. Deflecting Swat is something I am currently very interested in. The new blue enchantment means I need to add a lot more enchantment hate. I am probably going to cut Mina and Denn, Wildborn for an Oracle of Mul Daya.
I am looking to revamp the mana base some. Cut cards like Rootbound Crag and Karplusan Forest for more basics. I'm gonna add some snow basics, and also cut one of my 3 mana ramp spells for an Into the North.
Comments about the new cards:
The new landfall extra combats is powerful but not what this deck is looking to do. I don't have many creatures, and most of the attacking ones are already heavy at the top end.
I am in love with the new double faced cards that are spells/lands. However, most aren't what I'm looking for. I am extremely happy to add these to my other decks, especially those with Karoos/Ravnica bounce lands, but I don't have those in this deck. The red mythic might go into this deck, as an untapped land and potential removal spell, but I haven't decided.
The new not-Avenger of Zendikar is interesting. I need to go more basic heavy for it, which I am already working on revamping the mana base. I have found myself a bit light on blockers recently, so another effect like this is not bad.
I am kind of surprised to say it, but so far my lands matter deck might not get much from a Zendikar set. Obviously the set isn't spoiled yet, and I fully expect a green mythic flip land will find it's way here.
4 months ago
Another card i really like is Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder it gives you so much sac fooder.