Force of Negation

Force of Negation

Instant

If it's not your turn, you may exile a blue card from your hand rather than pay this spell's mana cost.

Counter target noncreature spell. If that spell is countered this way, exile it instead of putting it into its owner's graveyard.

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1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Unformat Legal
Vintage Legal

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Force of Negation Discussion

Grubbernaut on Bring in from outside the …

2 weeks ago

I'm not sure about cards that specifically disallow "wishing" in cards from outside of the game, but typically wish decks are a bit slower. For that reason, cheap counterspells ( Spell Pierce , Force of Negation , Mystical Dispute , Negate , Dovin's Veto , Spell Snare , etc) are often effective.

Alternatively, just go faster!

What are his actual win conditions? Depending on your colors, there's tons of good removal in modern to hit creatures. Fatal Push , Bloodchief's Thirst , Heartless Act , even cheap things like Doom Blade or Go for the Throat if you want budget options. Path to Exile , Oust , Condemn , and of course sweepers like Wrath of God , Damnation , Supreme Verdict , Extinction Event , etc

It really depends on what his deck is specifically trying to do, and also what kind of deck you'd like to play.

Happymaster19 on My Bestest Friends (UV Walker Control)

1 month ago

Went up against what I assume was a Time Vault / Manifold Key combo. I can’t recall my opening hand perfectly but my opponent lead with Underground Sea and Mox Jet into Ponder and Imperial Seal . I could have countered something but my general rule of thumb is to counter what is tutored rather than the tutor. Land, go. They mana rock into Timetwister which I assume is what they tutored as it would shuffle away anything else. I hit that with a Force of Negation and took the turn. Land, go. From there it was much slower. I got out Teferi, Time Raveler on turn 3 and Dovin, Hand of Control the following turn. Countered a Demonic Tutor and responded with Dack Fayden . Dack pulled us into a follow up Jace, the Mind Sculptor . At that point, they were low enough that we could ride Jace’s to deck management, maintaining our counters until Narset, Parter of Veils and Kasmina, Enigma Sage . We continued to keep our opponents top deck and our own managed, eventually completing the crew with Oko, Thief of Crowns coming down for an additional Fractal. Our opponent managed to pull a Tinker while we took the turn off but we had plenty of counters ready at that point and was able to stave off and go in the lethal offensive.

It was only one game but I would definitely have brought in Ashiok, Dream Render having seen Imperial Seal , Demonic Tutor , Tinker , and Tezzeret the Seeker .

azja on Yuriko: the 忍者 code | Commander

1 month ago

Hey! Your decklist looks great, it has all of the essential parts down pat (cheap/evasive creatures, powerful ninjas and lots of topdeck manipulation). You could definitely play it as-is, even if it's been a while! But I also want to mention some ideas that I have for potential cuts/additions:

  1. Bitterblossom : Earliest it can create a creature is turn 3, personally I found this too slow. I prefer to play an additional enabler instead, such as Ornithopter or Mausoleum Wanderer .

  2. Deep-Sea Kraken : Very unlikely to hard cast, and you can probably win the game before removing all its suspend counters. Instead, you could play Blinkmoth Infusion or Draco , which are equally uncastable, but deal more damage.

  3. Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni : Definitely one of the coolest ninjas, but just too slow in my opinion. Some ninjas you could replace it with are Throat Slitter , Fallen Shinobi , or Mist-Syndicate Naga .

  4. Conspiracy and Xenograft : I played these for a long time, but ended up cutting them in favour of more extra turn spells, which are more consistent for closing out the game. My favourites to play in Yuriko are Temporal Mastery which can easily be a Time Walk , and Temporal Trespass which can be cast for UUU, but deals 11 damage.

  5. Bolas's Citadel : A bit of a nonbo in Yuriko decks, which generally want to play super-efficient, high cmc spells. I don't have a direct replacement in mind, but I'll include more suggestions at the end.

  6. Massacre and Toxic Deluge : Yuriko needs creatures on the board more than most decks, so I generally don't play boardwipes that destroy creatures. I prefer to play something like Evacuation or Devastation Tide so I don't lose them permanently.

  7. Teferi's Veil : I'm kinda unsure how this synergizes with Yuriko. Could you let me know if I'm missing something? I'm not super familiar with phasing.

Miscellaneous Suggestions:

  1. Universal Automaton : A very simple, yet effective ninja

  2. Deadly Rollick and Fierce Guardianship : Free removal/counterspell as long as you control Yuriko!

  3. Scheming Symmetry : Can win the game before your opponent draws the card they tutored for. Best paired with Blinkmoth Infusion and Draco if you decide to include them.

  4. Curtains' Call and Coastal Breach : I love the undaunted mechanic in Yuriko decks. Heavy hitters that you can cast for cheap.

  5. Force of Negation : Does a reasonable Force of Will impression to get your opponents who think you're all out of answers.

  6. Mox Amber : Acts as Mox Sapphire / Mox Jet as long as you control Yuriko.

  7. Sea Gate Restoration  Flip and Agadeem's Awakening  Flip: Although their abilities are not too relevant, lands that also deal damage with Yuriko are very powerful.

Sorry this got so long, I hope all of my points made sense! Feel free to let me know what you think! Thanks again for the kind words about my primer!

abby315 on Breya, Etherium Shaper cEDH combos!

1 month ago

I'm definitely not up to date with the cEDH meta, but I have a few suggestions that I think are just better cards:

If it's just there to tutor a combo piece like Ironworks, I would think you'd want Tinker over Arcum Dagsson , especially because it can grab creature artifacts as well;

Whir of Invention should definitely be in here, maybe over Storm the Vault  Flip which is slow;

You definitely should be running more interaction, especially in these colors. I'd recommend trying to fit in at least some of the following: Swan Song , Force of Negation , Flusterstorm , Mental Misstep , Opposition Agent , Pyroblast , Red Elemental Blast . If I had to make cuts, I'd start with the Mycosynth Lattice / Nevinyrral's Disk combo, which is slow; Open the Vaults and Refurbish since you don't have much self-mill to make these a speedier option for getting a combo out; and either the Time Sieve / Thopter Assembly combo because it's slow or the Felidar Guardian / Saheeli Rai combo because you don't have many ways to find it and neither piece is especially useful on its own.

I hope this helps! In general I think paring down the list to support 1-2 combo lines using Breya, then shoring up the protection for that combo, will serve you well.

Doombeard1984 on Getting Slivvy With It

1 month ago

I have looked at cEDH and often thought what it would take. From the looks of it, you are looking at a The First Sliver + Food Chain for cEDH sliver fun. I also think your interaction and counter magic needs to be on point for it think Force of Will , Force of Negation , Mana Drain , Fierce Guardianship etc. Probably also looking at OG duals and full set of fetches. Just a bit too rich for my blood lol. Oh, and then you got your fast mana like Chrome Mox , Mox Opal , Mox Diamond and Mana Crypt etc. Only way I'm doing all of that, is through proxies lol

Snake57 on Yuriko (Optimized) Primer

1 month ago

My playgroup agreed on not using permanent proxies to keep the power level as is, but I'll definitely grab the more expensive fetches, I'm just waiting for the reprint coming up in Modern Horizons 2 :) I'm also currently trying to grab a Mana Crypt and Mana Drain locally but it's proving harder than expected.

You are completly right about Song of the Dryads and Walker of Secret Ways I guess there are still some situations where it could be useful returning Yuriko to my hand but that realization admittedly made it a lot worse, makes me a bit unsure about committing to that switch.

Great to hear that we seem to agree on Abjure Mystic Reflection I'll try to find some space for those as soon as I can get my hands on them Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire may just be too slow, you are right. I often forget just how fast Yuriko can be, it may just be good in a lower powered Yuriko deck. Nether Traitor Is kind of in the same boat as well, and quite frankly I wouldn't be sure what to cut for it either.

I sometimes forget considering how important it is to have cards to pitch for Force of Will / Force of Negation / Commandeer , you are again absolutely right.

You seem to have a very firm grip on what to switch out for new cards, since my decklist is so close to yours it's super nice for you to let me pick your brain about it, again it really is much appreciated! Since this is probably my strongest deck by a pretty good margin and it's already very optimized I think I need to be careful about how I approach new inclusions.

I'm really hoping I'll be able to get some more games in soon, I miss flipping Dracos and Blinkmoth Infusions! Maybe I should finally figure out a setup to play some games online at some point.

TriusMalarky on Will WotC Ever Print this …

1 month ago

plakjekaas is largely right, except for the fact that Miscast , Spell Pierce , Dispel , Force of Negation , Force of Will .

Anyways, if wotc printed Sorcery, tutor instant/sorcery, they'd break cEDH permanently. Grixis Ad Naus, likely Kess Turbo Naus and Rograkh x Silas Renn Turbo Naus, would be the absolute best deck. I mean, they already have 6 2 mana or less tutors. Add this, Wishclaw, Grim and maybe even Cruel, and you have 9 really efficient tutors. That's after considering the fact that Kess is one of the better decks anyways, and Turbo Naus is the prevalent strategy(one that already wants black and blue for Sushi and red for dockside and breach).

Additionally, it would immediately go into Legacy and Vintage storm decks and would make the decks incredibly playable, and if it's in modern it would bring storm back with a vengeance.

Could they print a 3 mana version? Maybe. Just maybe. Especially if it costs life and has some sort of Gamble effect. Could they print a 4 mana version that's an instant? 100%.

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