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Stitch Together Discussion
2 months ago
Sire is slow and reliant on your opponents deliberately playing into it to get value. Dakmor is a land that enters tapped and is not needed to fill your grave since you can target yourself with Ashiok (and 22 lands is fine when you consider an adjusted average cmc). The other four are mediocre reanimation spells that are getting upgraded by the adds or are not efficient/versatile enough to run in addition to your signature spell.
2 months ago
Il tuo piano di gioco è usare tanto ramp per tirare Muldrotha sul campo, dopodiché, cercare di tenerlo sul campo per il resto della partita.
Per il ramp ti consiglio:
- Wayfarer's Bauble rampa velocemente e si può riutilizzare.
- Crop Rotation , Harrow , Prismatic Vista . Puoi rigiocare le terre sacrificate dal cimitero, quindi GG.
- Crucible of Worlds , Ramunap Excavator ti aiutano a giocare le terre quando non hai Muldrotha.
- The Gitrog Monster fa tutto: peschi carte, giochi più terre! Per pescare molto, anche River Kelpie è fortissima.
Per la proteggere Muldrotha, ti consiglierei queste:
- Kaya's Ghostform , Supernatural Stamina , Unholy Indenture , Abnormal Endurance , Shade's Form ti permettono di salvarla da un boardwipe/removal.
- Autumn's Veil e Veil of Summer sono utili per impostarti il turno ed impedire che ti rompano il cazzo mentre casti Muldrotha ecc.
- Counterspell , Deprive Countersquall , Cursecatcher (dipende dallo stato della partita, non ottimale), Flusterstorm , Daring Apprentice , Diplomatic Escort , Dispel , Decree of Silence (abbastanza rotta), Foil (forse non ottima perché è difficile che tu abbia un'Isola in mano sempre), Glen Elendra Archmage , Hisoka, Minamo Sensei (che hai già), Kira, Great Glass-Spinner , Stubborn Denial , Undermine , Voidmage Prodigy , Voidslime , Disallow sono tutte un buon modo per assicurarti che il tuo piano di gioco vada a buon fine, neutralizzando le azioni avversarie che possono darti fastidio. Ti consiglio quelle che si adattano di più al tuo mazzo.
Un altra strategia per assicurarti di non dover pagare la Commander Tax per rigiocare Muldrotha è di rigiocarla dal cimitero. Meglio ancora se quelle carte possono a loro volta essere rigiocate dal cimitero con Muldrotha:
- Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead , Diabolic Servitude , Doomed Necromancer , Necromancy , Recurring Nightmare . Stitch Together / Dread Return sono due carte forti, ma da valutare con attenzione perché non le puoi rigiocare con Muldrotha.
Carte che ti permettono di riprendere altre carte dal cimitero in mano:
- Eternal Witness , Skullwinder e Nyx Weaver ti permettono di riprenderti carte utili, in modo da poter sforare il limite di un solo permanente per tipo dal cimitero. Inoltre, così puoi riprendere anche Instant e Sorcery, a cui normalmente non avresti più accesso una volta usate.
Ti suggerisco una combo interessante, il Flash Hulk . Consiste nel poter giocare e subito sacrificare il Protean Hulk già dal turno due per poi poterti andare a cercare creature nel mazzo che ti permettano di fare una combo infinita e vincere. Se cerchi online dovresti trovare fonti a sufficienza. Comunque, anche solo il Protean Hulk da solo è una grande inclusione.
Inoltre, una carta davvero buffa da poter giocare nella tua combinazione di colori: Villainous Wealth .
Tra le terre che sono fortissime nel tuo mazzo ci sono anche: - Cabal Coffers insieme a Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . - Alchemist's Refuge e Emergence Zone per poter giocare creature e altre cose ad instant speed. - Wasteland è una seconda Strip Mine . - Lotus Vale e Lotus Field sono più o meno ramp, ma anche un buon modo per fare molto mana se avessi il modo di stapparle. Magari con Deserted Temple , a cui sta anche simpatica Cabal Coffers , comunque. - Glacial Chasm è un piano di riserva che ti costa solo 2 punti vita a turno, a patto di rigiocarla sempre dal cimitero tutti i turni.
Tra le carte che ti suggerisco di togliere ci sono:
2 months ago
My first suggestion involves your artifact ramp. Dimir Signet and Orzhov Signet are worse than Talisman of Dominance and Talisman of Hierarchy in the majority of situations, mainly because they don't need mana to begin activating. Talisman of Progress is also worth considering, though I'm assuming blue and white are your lesser colors. In that vein, I suggest cutting Chromatic Lantern for another piece of two-mana artifact ramp. In my experience, there is a big difference between 2 and 3 mana rocks in EDH, and anything you can do to increase your deck's speed will be a good thing.
Considering the win conditions: I think Approach of the Second Sun is superfluous. In my experience, zombie decks are perfectly happy just trying to get away with the aggro win condition, though the Gravecrawler loops are certainly an interesting second. The problem with Approach of the Second Sun is that it is not good by itself; generally, you want to run combo pieces that also serve some utility even without the combo. (For example, this is why I hate the Isochron Scepter in my Kess, Dissident Mage list.) Drawing it in your opener or when you don't have the mana to cast it leaves it essentially dead, and I think the aggro or Gravecrawler plans are just better.
Once you hit three colors, mana base becomes extremely important. City of Brass and Mana Confluence are excellent cards, and I've had excellent luck with them. Ideally, you'd run fetch lands like Polluted Delta and Misty Rainforest as a sort of 'additional dual land,' but these can be very pricy. If that's an issue, I advise slow fetches like Bad River , Flood Plain , Rocky Tar Pit and Grasslands . Cavern of Souls is an expensive card, though it is excellent in any tribal deck -- if you have access to it, you should run it. Unclaimed Territory is another thing to consider, as is running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth instead of one of your basic Swamp s. I also think you're running a few too many lands. Thirty-three is generally my upper limit, and since your curve is so high, I think that's about what you'd want. Thirty-five is too many.
I like that you're running zombie lords. Though anthem effects do greatly reduce the synergy of Gravecrawler with Skullclamp , I think their bonus to the aggro plan is high enough to justify their inclusion. In that vein, Lord of the Undead and Zombie Master are worth considering.
Card advantage decides most EDH games -- for example, yesterday I had someone concede not because I had pressure on the board, but because I was drawing five more cards than them a turn. Though this may have been a premature concession, it does illustrate my point. Thus, I highly recommend running cards like Graveborn Muse , Phyrexian Arena , Painful Truths , Chart a Course , Slate of Ancestry , Glimmer of Genius , Pulse of the Grid , Night's Whisper , Notion Thief , Thirst for Knowledge and/or Windfall . Similarly, cantrips like Ponder and Preordain are almost auto-includes in a blue list. Brainstorm 's efficacy is dependent on the number of shuffle effects you run, though if you choose to include fetches (slow or otherwise), I highly advise it. Many of these cards involve paying life; if life becomes an issue, try Whip of Erebos or a non-lethal Exsanguinate in addition to your Gray Merchant of Asphodel .
Tutors are good cards. I'm a fan of Entomb in addition to your Buried Alive , as it gets Gravecrawler in the yard for your combo and, if you pair it with reanimation like Reanimate , Animate Dead or the Victimize / Stitch Together you already run, it allows you to cheat in fatties. Grave Titan and Massacre Wurm are two of my favorite reanimation targets, but they're both around $20 these days. Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are the gold standard for black tutors, but these can also be inaccessible because of their price. Diabolic Tutor is a fine substitute, and I've had good success with Lim-Dul's Vault .
Liliana is also a good zombie-include, be it for flavor or for the power she offers. Liliana, Death's Majesty is great in zombie decks and is pretty affordable; Liliana, Dreadhorde General has been dropping in price recently and is also great. Depending on your playgroup's meta, Liliana, the Last Hope may be a powerhouse, though she is $40 these days.
Generally in EDH, one-for-ones are not where you want to be. There are usually three opponents, so on average you'll be facing 3x as many cards as you have. Anguished Unmaking and Utter End are good cards, but they are not as good in EDH as they'd be in 1v1 formats. Supreme Verdict and Merciless Eviction , which I see you're running, are better. Might I suggest Damnation , Wrath of God , and/or Toxic Deluge ? You may want to lean toward black board-wipes, as this is already where your mana will be when casting zombies. An overloaded Cyclonic Rift is also great, especially if paired with the aforementioned Windfall .
Perpetual Timepiece is a cool include. Consider Cephalid Vandal . Because you're not running Call to the Grave (which I think is overrated anyways), there is little to no cost of running non-zombie creatures in your deck. I think Cephalid Vandal is another good way of trying to keep your deck churning with self-mill.
Another thing that takes good EDH decks to the next level is counter magic. I see you're running Counterspell , which is good, but you should consider running at least three to four other counter spells as well. Force of Will , Mana Drain and Pact of Negation are all good if you want to sell a kidney. If you're a slightly more reasonable player, cards like Narset's Reversal , Negate / Countersquall / Dovin's Veto , Swan Song , Disallow , Arcane Denial and Archmage's Charm are also worth considering.
Depending on your meta (and your personal level of sadism), Narset, Parter of Veils and Ashiok, Dream Render should be considered. Turning off tutors and extra-draws with asymmetrical effects is brutal. Personally, I don't think those two cards should ever have been printed, but what the hell -- they're here, so we might as well use them.
Patriarch's Bidding is a good way for a tribal deck to recover after a board-wipe, and Living Death is just good for black creature decks in general. Living Death is a sort of nonbo with Wonder , but that may be worth the trouble; play-testing will iron that issue out.
Good luck man!
3 months ago
This is a classic Gravecrawler + Phyrexian Altar deck. The ultimate goal is to have one of the following: Zulaport Cutthroat , Wayward Servant , Plague Belcher , Diregraf Captain , Corpse Knight ; alongside the Gravecrawler constantly going back and forth.
There are some cards that allow this combo without Phyrexian Altar . Mikaeus, the Unhallowed can combo with Putrid Goblin . Both can also double sacrifice effects if they are alone for value without combo- ing off. Rooftop Storm can replace Phyrexian Altar or unlock Relentless Dead to replace Gravecrawler .
With a commander like Varina, Lich Queen , with a strong Draw/discard effect, we need cards to discard. Cards that can make incredible value for Windfall + Whispering Madness + Memory Jar while refilling our hand and filling the graveyard. From Under the Floorboards , Waste Not (for opponents), Reanimate , Stitch Together .
3 months ago
Great primer, this is the list I came to after giving up on Muldrotha. But I do have to agree with Kira0077, I'm surprised Sidisi isn't in the list. I'd also like to get your opinion of Priest of Forgotten Gods and 2 cmc reanimation spells like Stitch Together . I also noticed the inclusion of Oppression, and was wondering how you feel about including a full discard suite, with Liliana of the Veil , Bottomless Pit , and the like.
4 months ago
I've been jamming Varina for a few months and she has been fantastic. Check out my list below if you're interested.
You could add a Nim Deathmantle as you already have every other card needed for that combo.
Some cards that don't seem good enough to make the cut or are too high cost I would say are Dark Salvation , Debt to the Deathless , Desecrated Tomb , Necromancer's Covenant , Zombie Trailblazer , Mikaeus, the Unhallowed (unless I'm missing a combo?), Binding Mummy and I think you could go down to 35 lands and be okay.
Other than that, maybe just add some of the staple card draw and you've got yourself a fun list.
Best of luck, she's a great commander.
4 months ago
I don't have much in the way of constructive comments, I just wanted to say I really like this deck, and you did a fantastic write up. Glissa was always a deck I thought would be fun to play, but I never had the cards to really make it work (too much competition w/ my windgrace and daretti decks) anyway this is a really inspiring list and i like the theme.
I'm just gonna leave a few card suggestions that I didn't see in your list that are worthy of consideration, if you haven't already.
Harrow maybe has some interesting interaction w/ artifact lands? Diabolic Intent has been pretty useful to get stuff in the bin. Stitch Together is a pretty solid reanimation card, Recollect and Regenesis seem like they might be better than reclaim. I understand that the 1 cmc is powerful, and instant speed is always good, however, I personally don't like putting stuff on my top of my library (i know that in Glissa that doesn't make much of a difference), so in case you ever feel like maybe yo wanna change I strongly recommend those two. Regenesis is especially fun. :)
Good deck, thanks for sharing. +1'ed
5 months ago
Salutations, my good connoisseur of the necromantic arts! I have a quick question for your deck as well as a possible budget card to consider, in case it fits your needs. Regarding my question, how does this deck operate mana-wise? Do you find yourself hitting most of your land drops?
As for the suggestion, I wonder what your thoughts are for a card like Stitch Together . It's a pretty handy reanimation spell I find many people overlook. It could be a good fit here, as well as a flavor win. I'd love to know your thoughts on it.
Until next we meet, my friend. Cheers!
Stitch Together occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.02%