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Life from the Loam
Return up to three target land cards from your graveyard to your hand.
Dredge 3 (If you would draw a card, instead you may put exactly three cards from the top of your library into your graveyard. If you do, return this card from your graveyard to your hand. Otherwise, draw a card.)
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Life from the Loam Discussion
2 days ago
I didn't get the notification for your earlier comment, so I'm reading through it now.
Points I agree with:
Renaming hubs is no issue at all, and Artifact and Enchantment can be made plural easily. I've gotten a couple of requests to change Amulet Bloom to Amulet Titan. Right now, it's a compromise by acknowledging the name origin in the description, but I see a lot of decks on this site named for Amulet Titan, so it's probably time to change that over.
Devotion and Energy are pretty Satndard-specific mechanics. You also mention Cruel Control and Exalted, and I believe you mentioned Caw Blade and Solar Flare in another thread as Standard decks that are past their time.
Points I'm not sold on:
I think Battlecruiser is a sufficiently unique subset of ramp/control, similar to Zoo being a unique subset of aggro/creatures, or Eggs being a unique subset of artifact/combo.
I had Spellslinger described more or less as "permanentless" for a while, then got several people telling me that the support permanents are just as important--think Thing in the Ice Flip or Keranos, God of Storms or Pyromancer Ascension . Turns out Spellslinger decks are majority, but definitely not exclusively, instants and sorceries.
Aikido can be renamed, but I've seen it clearly identified as that on other sites, and "Tactical Appropriation", while accurate and descriptive, is kind of a mouthful.
Loam and Lands have a lot of overlap, but I think Loam sits somewhere between Lands and Dredge. I want to look around, do some research, and see if there's any Lands decks that don't automatically include Life from the Loam . Would the Legacy Dark Depths deck go under the Lands hub?
Large... Not sure where this is going. Is there a hub called Large that I don't see?
Vehicle still has a novelty factor, but I'm willing to be convinced to take this off as too Standard-y, especially if nothing new shows up in the next set. This is more "wait and see" than "I'm not changing." If Vehicles continue to be printed, I'm going to keep it.
The tribal stuff, I'm going to look around and see what's been hubbed for those as well. Cats in particular had a major pre-built deck for it, and Angels, Knights, and Demons are casual stars, and get new additions almost every set. I don't know if they're sustained across Standard rotations.
I'll start cleaning some of this up tomorrow. It might not be a bad idea to start a dedicated hub addition/removal thread.
2 days ago
Excellent deck! Land chucking never gets old. Have you considered Tranquil Thicket and Forgotten Cave ? You can continually use Life from the Loam as long as you always grab one of them and cycle it to grab loam again. Which is deadly with BorBor.
2 days ago
I mean, so with regards to self-mill Cephalid Vandal is a card I've been impressed with. Dredge creatures like Golgari Grave-Troll and Stinkweed Imp are also good to consider in addition to your Life from the Loam .
The biggest bonus of being in green is the color's access to one-mana mana dorks. Llanowar Elves , Elves of Deep Shadow , Birds of Paradise , Deathrite Shaman , Fyndhorn Elves and Elvish Mystic are all cards to consider. Simply being able to play a turn or so faster can make all the difference in the world. Similarly, Priest of Titania and Bloom Tender are great dorks, though being two mana does put them second-tier.
I've generally found that, in EDH, replacing 1-for-1s with 2-or-more-for-1s is a good idea. Force of Vigor is a new card I've been considering for my decks, and I think it's strictly better than Naturalize .
Have you considered Reanimate ? I notice that you aren't running it -- I think it's probably the best reanimation spell there is.
With the recent printings of enemy talismans, I don't think running Dimir Signet , Simic Signet and Golgari Signet is where you want to be. Talisman of Dominance , Talisman of Creativity and Talisman of Resilience are less awkward to use and cost the same.
Mana Confluence and City of Brass are important sources of colored mana once you're at 3+ colors. Additionally, fetch lands are at a premium. Though the Onslaught and Zendikar fetches can cost the same as a used kidney, slow fetches ( Grasslands , Rocky Tar Pit , Bad River , Flood Plain and Mountain Valley ) work as well and are WAY easier on the wallet.
You may want to get more card-draw in your list, too. Grim Flowering and Nature's Resurgence seem powerful in a creature-heavy list based around self-mill, but classic draw spells like Painful Truths , Thirst for Knowledge , Night's Whisper , Chart a Course , Ponder , Preordain and Fact or Fiction are also really strong here. I like that you're already running Windfall -- most people forget that card for some reason; it's like, REALLY good. Brainstorm is another card to consider, but it only becomes good with a lot of shuffle effects (see the aforementioned fetch lands).
I gotta go to work. Good luck man!
3 days ago
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3 days ago
Hello TheMillKid thanks for the feedback, Life from the Loam might be a good replacement for the Command, the idea for the command is putting extra lands from my hand into play. But grabbing lands from the graveyard may be the right answer. Having a Naya scapeshift might be the right call, but I think I will see how effective the current brew is befor moving towards that.
3 days ago
These cuts feel fairly easy from how I feel the way the deck has shaped up recently. Borborygmos Enraged on paper seems like the perfect fit for the deck but honestly, without a lot of reanimation the deck is probably doing much better things than trying to cast a 8 mana spell that doesn't impact the board immediately, nor does it win the game in one fell swoop. Throwing out multiple bolts with a Life from the Loam does seem nice, but this deck has very few ways of easily assembling that synergy, on top of being rather mana-intensive. Tectonic Edge has been on the chopping block for a long time. Strip Mine and Wasteland just fit that slot so well without needing to leave mana open to activate. With the currently capacity to search for lands in the deck, I think three sources is too many, whereas 2 feels about right. Again in different versions of this deck, I can imagine these cards making a lot more sense, but in its current iteration, this deck has drifted quite a bit from where it started.
The new tech:
I think that the new core set has a lot to offer to this deck, much more than a lot of past sets. Personally not that hot on the green and red cavaliers as they don't offer enough for their casting cost, but there is a lot of potential in more budget builds. Field of the Dead just seems like the easiest include for this deck. Especially once you factor in land copying effects like Vesuva and Thespian's Stage , the ability to generate multitudes of zombie tokens is rather scary. Dread Presence just feels like that little edge the deck needed to just go off late game with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth . A Scapeshift can be that much more devastating for an opponent or an opportunity to draw into an out or win condition. The other factor is the lifegain, which can mitigate the cost of maintaining the Glacial Chasm .
Looking towards the future:
The following cards that are in the spotlight to adding, cutting or swapping:
- Elvish Reclaimer : Summoning sickness is a massive detriment to how I feel about this card, especially as a late-game draw. The effect is rather powerful with this build so I will not write off this card anytime soon.
- Prismatic Vista : It's in the mail on its merry way and will probably either replace Evolving Wilds or perhaps Sheltered Thicket .
- Sheltered Thicket for Forest : I no longer think that the current red fixing in the deck is justified, and the cycling has come into play very little versus any of the other three cycling lands due to the cost. This is especially true in the early game where the difference between one and two mana is rather large when ramping. The entering tapped is also detrimental to both early and late game mana. Once Prismatic Vista is slotted into the deck, the more basics, the better.
1 week ago
I think Life from the Loam would be great here. This looks like a deck somewhere between Legacy Maverick and Lands, but is unfortunately impeded by both Punishing Fire and Dark Depths being banned in the modern format. I'd recommend against Atarka's Command, as that doesn't really help your deck. Search for Tomorrow is a popular option in the Scapeshift decks. It might be interesting to consider a Naya Scapeshift deck with Knight And Cavalier of Flame as a backup finisher if you cannot get get the Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle trick to work.
Nonetheless, happy brewing!
1 week ago
Life from the Loam occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.37%
All decks: 0.09%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.06%
BUG (Sultai): 1.18%
BRG (Jund): 1.02%