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Mental Misstep Discussion
1 month ago
Hello fellow Planeswalkers. I made this thread so we can discuss the cards currently on the Modern banlist (SEE BOTTOM OF POST) and look if there may be candidates for unbanning, since it has been a while since something moved off the list.
I'm one of those crazy people that wants to live in a world where Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe are legal, but I see how that's not realistic whatsoever, so I won't talk about here. Let's have this discussion to be about REALISTIC, reasonable and safe unbannings.
Here are my candidates:
Deathrite Shaman - With all the easy cheap removal and grave hate in the format plus the general push of power level in the recent years, is this really a big deal anymore? Not even sure Jund wants it anymore. Since this doesn't enable a game winning combo or lockout on the spot, I think it deserves a second chance.
Artifact land cycle ala Ancient Den. So, they even injected another 10 artifact lands - are those even being played much competitively? My gut is this was a probe to see if they indeed could unban the old artifact lands. Artifact removal is much more available these days and the old artifact lands don't even come with indestructible sooo...
Rite of Flame - but Sergio! Fast mana is broken. Yes indeed. But they did ban Simian Spirit Guide and hear my out why Rite of Flame is weaker. SSG does not require you to play or a mountain to activate, Rite does and even costs a mana to begin with. SSG has a secondary feature being a creature and can be cast at a reasonable cost of 3 mana. Rite doesn't have that. Since they took Mox Opal and SSG, I think Rite of Flame might deserve a chance as a weaker substitution.
Please tell me what you think about that and/or show me your argumenst for other unbannings that you can see happening.
1 month ago
Mine was in retaliation to what someone else did to me in a previous game of commander. He Mental Misstepped my turn 1 Sol Ring, which is understandable, and then Strip Mined my only land. I was mana locked for the rest of the game starting on turn 1. And he didn’t even feel bad about it. No apology or anything.
So in a later game, I was playing slivers. It was a pod of 3. Me, the guy I wanted to get back at, and this other person I really enjoyed playing with. This was before Prophet of Kruphix got banned. I had it in play and was playing lots of slivers. The guy I liked played Insurrection and was obviously going to kill me with it. I was a huge problem. But he didn’t have enough firepower to kill both of us. That was until I used Sliver Overlord to tutor and flash out a Bonescythe Sliver. If I was going down, I was gonna get my revenge. I caused the other guy to leave the tournament out of frustration.
Yeah, it was done purely out of spite. I normally don’t do that, but when people get arrogant with me, I don’t handle it well.
3 months ago
After those, the one mana counters.
3 months ago
The best counterspell is the one you can keep in hand because your opponent is trying to play around it.
I feel Mental Misstep needs to be in the discussion somewhere, because it's actually powerful enough to be actually restricted in Vintage, and banned almost everywhere else. So:
1 . Mental Misstep
2 . Force of Will
3 . Mana Drain
4 . Chalice of the Void - debatable to call a counterspell, but it literally counters spells.
5 . Hard to choose between Daze , Pact of Negation , Force of Negation or Fierce Guardianship , so I'll just go with Negate , for its omniprescence and reliability in every format from limited to commander and everything in between.
3 months ago
You may have a point that with the lessons learned Wizards could print a Modern-legal Phyrexian mana card that is not format warping, but all the same I would prefer that they didn't because there's a high risk of warping the format. Reducing or altering mana costs is dangerous. Dig Through Time and Treasure Cruise are banned for that reason. And more relevantly, Gitaxian Probe and Mental Misstep are more than worth two life.
Force of ___ spells and the new elemental incarnations are balanced in that a card in your hand is worth more than life points. But even then, the quality of cantrips in Legacy means Force of Will costs you less and the format's absolutely defined around the card. Force of Negation started seeing fewer copies played at a time in Modern after Uro was banned and didn't provide an easy way to recoup resources.
Also, now we have had enough time to learn that big mana decks are fine with Dismember, but I'm sure at the time people were upset that Tron could just pay four life and take out a creature. Even the proposed double Phyrexian Blue Negate would be a dangerous card, countering a Blood Moon or Pillage would absolutely be worth four life.
3 months ago
Alright, so since we've last chatted about my Anowon deck, I've overhauled it and even won a game with it! If you haven't had too many troubles with land drops then keep it, or else bump it up one or two more. Idk your budget so I'll just mention what I think works well so you can lmk otherwise.
I'd switch out
Talisman of Dominance
. Def take out
as you don't want to be feeding your graveyard so your meta doesn't take advantage of that.
can be replaced with
. Costs the same, but it'll draw you a card once you're caught up on mana.
Sword of Hearth and Home
is the new
Sword of the Animist
and oh man is it good. The blink plus the untapped land, chefs kiss.
Even though Anowon helps mill, I think the main focus is not to do so much milling and get your attacks in with the side effect being mill. Ironically enough, I won by decking someone after I used
Zareth San, the Trickster
to steal some crazy aura that buffed up my faerie rogue up by +20/+20 to KO the person before lol. If you take a look a mine, my theme seems to be "copying". I want to keep copying that next thing that'll push me forward.
Does your group have a more cEDH or just high powered vibe? Cause that'll change what I might recommend.
is already better than
bc counterspell is just a 1 for 1. Replace with
Pact of Negation
or if your group plays a lot of 1 drops, then
as that'll bring the salt. Keep a counter in hand just for that
Rise of the Dark Realms
Your removal could also use a boost. I would take out
Go for the Throat
Flip and throw in
. You could also see the removal I'm running and possibly switch the mentioned cards for those. You could possibly even add
but M.Rider is the better version of that card.
Board wipes are good, but why crux though? I can understand if that's just what you have, then do it up. If you can, replace with
or just cut it as you already have
which is pretty much the best board wipe. Kudos!
can take a hike, unless you're going to add
Narset, Parter of Veils
. If you're trying to be oppressive that is LOL. You have decent draw already and you wouldn't want to feed your opponent that Realms! If you need to replace then add
(might get destroyed) or
Into the Story
As far as creatures go, make them unblockable with Whispersilk Cloak like you mentioned a while ago. It works wonders. Look at my list and see what I'm running, bc there are so many options. I highly recommend Dauthi Voidwalker . If you're able to put a void counter on "rise" after milling everyone out a bunch, you can sac DV and use it against the card's owner and make them suffer! Because that's what Commander is all about, right? If you have any more questions feel free to ask! I'm always down to help and welcome all the advice people give me as well. Wreck your playgroup next time you get together!
5 months ago
Gitaxian Probe and Lava Dart will be really good here, Mental Misstep is probably solid too but you lose the targets of Sol Ring, Mystical and Vampiric Tutor, Top, Seal, Entomb and Tide, but there's tons of great 1 drops anyways that I'd still run it. 2 life to counter a mana dork, Brainstorm, Gamble, Wordly or Enlightened Tutor? Seems great.
Also, Storm. Grapeshot after a couple cheap or free spells can not only deal a solid chunk of damage, but it also can give you a lot of Magecraft triggers(and you can kill a commander with it).
You could definitely cut a couple of the higher CMC cards as they'll clog up your gameplan a bit -- run a few more cantrips and interaction such as Preordain , Serum Visions , Faithless Looting , Lightning Bolt , Spell Pierce and Miscast .
Also, a couple rituals -- Rite of Flame is the best one here, but Simian Spirit Guide also works. Pyretic Ritual and Desperate Ritual are also okay, but they don't help you cast Veyran so they're last in line for those slots.
6 months ago
Two-brid mana is inherently balanced. It takes work and building around it to be able to pay instead of , but it also takes work to be able to pay . The two-brid cards available are pretty bad outside of mono color(and even then, it tends to be Spectral Procession in Modern and Beseech the Queen in EDH that are the only ones that see play) for that reason. However, if new cards were printed, there would be no real problem outside of some annoying people complaining about color pie breaks online.
For example, Lightning Bolt but twobrid. Giving ALL colors access to Lightning Strike isn't broken at all. Does it help decks like Tron or Monoblue who typically have problems removing creatures? Yep. But will it break any format? Most definitely not. Well, it will make Modern Burn and Pioneer Red Aggro lists a lot better in this specific case.
Compare this to . You are almost always paying life instead of the mana cost. You will only ever not pay life in very specific situations. In fact, if you pay mana for it when you have enough life, people question you. They wonder what the hell you are doing in your deck. Phyrexian mana is like having a multicolored Simian Spirit Guide in your hand at all times, except it costs 2 life. It's raw, unfettered mana advantage, which quickly and easily turns into advantage in the action economy.
Also, take a look at the banned Phyrexian mana cards. And the playable ones. Gitaxian Probe is Peek , which is basically unplayable. Mental Misstep would be unplayable if it cost instead of . Gut Shot , Postmortem Lunge , Mutagenic Growth , Dismember are all horrible if they didn't have the Phyrexian mana attached. It's the fact that they cost the generic cost only that makes them good. Dismember is a 1-mana spell, that costs a bit more later on if you have mana to spare but not the life. All the 1 mana Phyrexian Mana cards are actually zero mana.