Chain of Vapor
Return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand. Then that permanent's controller may sacrifice a land. If the player does, he or she may copy this spell and may choose a new target for that copy.
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Chain of Vapor Discussion
2 months ago
Hi! My advice is replace some of the creatures with cheap or free counter magic. I would defiantly cut Wonder , K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth , Spark Double and Throatseeker the rest is up to you. Don't under estimate free creatures without evasion like Memnite and Phyrexian Walker .
Some disruption spells i would recommend are Commandeer , Chain of Vapor , Flusterstorm . Their expensive so some budget options are Fatal Push , Misdirection , Murderous Cut , Spell Pierce . Also i would recommend some library manipulation like Spy Network , Ponder , Mission Briefing , Lim-Dul's Vault (its good but expensive). Scroll Rack and Sensei's Divining Top are also great top deck manipulation but probably no worth the money.
Finally i would recommend some better high CMC cards to reveal with Yuriko activation's. Some of the cards i recommended already double as good reveals but you could add: Sea Gate Restoration Flip, Nexus of Fate , Time Warp . Their not budget friendly but there good. Take out two lands if you use Sea Gate Restoration and Agadeem's Awakening Flip for obvious reasons.
I hope this helps :D
3 months ago
- Have Orvar in the field and a mutated (or not) Vadrok
- Cast something like Chain of Vapor targeting Vadrok, Orvar triggers creating a copy of Vadrok you can mutate onto and the original Vadrok is returned to hand
- Mutate Vadrok onto the copy and re-cast your bounce spell and something else from the graveyard due to the two triggers.
I guess if you have dockside under Vadrok then you could go infinite with this
4 months ago
KayneMarco also, the deck runs Chain of Vapor this allows me to return Dockside Extortionist to my hand and i can chain this with Underworld Breach I recently fixed this to add in Brain Freeze so i can chain off of that as well.
6 months ago
7 months ago
The deck is looking pretty good. I like the creature base you have chosen, there are a couple questionable creatures though. Cloudreader Sphinx seems kind of bad in this deck. If you just want a flying scryer, perhaps Sphinx of Foresight, Prognostic Sphinx, Stormwing Entity, or Siani, Eye of the Storm.
Passwall Adept is just not good enough. its too much of a resource drain. Opt is not helpful in this deck since you immediately draw the card after scrying. Cunning Evasion wont do much good I am thinking since most of your creatures wont be blocked anyway.
In my opinion, you need a few less low CMC cards and a few more high CMC that you can use to get Yuriko damage in. For cuts, I would start by looking at any creatures that cost CMC 2/3 that dont provide value other than being unblockable (Invisible Stalker, Vault Skirge (love that card btw). I would then look at replacing sorceries with instants where possible. Darksteel Pendant and Crystal Ball are not good enough in my opinion and are too much of a resource investment unless there is some sort of artifact strategy I am missing. Dimir Keyrune provides interesting utility but is inefficient. Consider Arcane Signet instead or perhaps even Dark Ritual. Thran Dynamo is fairly efficient for cost to mana provided but it seems most of your mana needs are for color. Key to the City is for yuriko after she is out I assume.. I would probably run Aqueous Form instead because it has a scry effect on attack which is pretty desirable.
Here are some cards to consider in not much particular order:
Chromatic Orrery (high cmc and provides a lot of mana)
Chain of Vapor (way to return a card to hand as well as an opponents card or cards)
Archaeomancer (can get brainstorm back and can be returned to hand with ninjitsu potentially)
Scroll Rack (spendy but so good)
Trickery Charm (does multiple things you want)
Grozoth (requires you to build around it to be worthwhile but can be good)
7 months ago
If you decide to build a Jhoira, weatherlight captain edh deck you just need a few simple ingredients: a lot of Mana rocks (20-30 preferably 2 cost or less), cost reducers for artifacts (there are quite a few but I'd recommend 4-7 of them), and win conditions ( 4-6 cards like Thassa's Oracle and Aetherflux Reservoir (( I personally do not recommend pinger effects like Psychosis Crawler or Reckless Fireweaver because you might run out of cards before they get the job done))).
My favorite combos are Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter for infinite Mana and Mystic Forge + Sensei's Divining Top for infinite card draw. The last suggestion I'd give is to steer away from red cards, my versions only have 2 red pips in the whole deck and one of those is jhoira herself and I find the imbalance actually helps the deck greatly as i only have to get 1 card in play that makes red Mana. Urza, Lord High Artificer is especially good here because if you get infinite Mana you instantly win with him. Also Forsaken Monument is really good in this deck as well because suddenly all your colorless rocks become sol rings, and your colorless lands become ancient tombs without the drawbacks. Basalt Monolith + Forsaken Monument is also an infinite Mana combo
One of the other big advantages in my opinion is the cards that double card draw or have similar effects to Jhoira. If every artifact you're playing draws you 12 cards you're going to plow through your whole deck in no time.
Lastly there's a lot of people who build Jhoira with a lot of mass bounce all your artifacts to your hand, but honestly I dislike the strat because it returns all of your costreducers back to hand too. I'd suggest running controllable ones like Chain of Vapor, Displacement Wave, and Paradoxical Outcome so you have a choice on which ones you're bouncing.
For a great starting point i would suggest looking at my physical list
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7 months ago
Да не за что ;)
Раньше я тоже сильно сомневался в Simian Spirit Guide , во-многом из-за того что лично мне она ооочень редко приходит. Но в недавних партиях как специально несколько раз складывалось всё так, что нужна была именно одна цветная мана, анпример, когда пришло три фильтра подряд... (я их даже с горяча заменил после партии на чек-лэнды, но после ещё двух партий всё же вернул фильтры), или несколько раз было что оппоненты затапывались, а у меня всего 6 цветной маны с консультацией на руке и Кесс в зоне... в предпоследней партии была ситуация когда из прикрышек на руке был только Pyroblast и пришлось лишний ход ждать, что бы появилась дополнительная мана - в общем, одной цветной мне ощутимо нехватало для победы.
А на счёт ритуалов ты прав - ситуации редки (хотя в твоём случае артефактов много, и можно бытрее поставить изохрон с маной на активацию). Я сегодня решил попробовать Jeska's Will - она чуть более универсальна чем красные ритуалы.
Feed the Swarm - увидел в твоём листе и на днях выменял её в клубе, к сожалению она так и не пришла за прошлые партии, а сегодня, пересобирая деку (освобождал место под новое колесо и дуалку), я заменил её на Winds of Rebuke (раньше из баунса у меня был только Chain of Vapor , с недавних пор доложил ещё Snap ), т.к. баус всё же универсальнее точечного ремувала - можно своего же Dockside Extortionist фликать или другие перманенты спасать/убирать. Да, и как писал выше, - стараюсь минимизировать собственный урон.
9 months ago
marcsman, great list-I was going to make a more moderate power level version of this deck until I saw your build.
What do you usually get when you transmute Muddle the Mixture?
The deck seems very light on removal. I know some of the CEDH favorites are not in your colors-Abrupt Decay, or Assassin's Trophy. But Chain of Vapor is an option as well as a something like Force of Vigor which is not seen in CEDH circles but is good.