Dread Return

Dread Return

Sorcery

Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

Flashback—Sacrifice three creatures. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)

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Dread Return Discussion

Scytec on Meren: Necromancy & haruSpEX

4 days ago

To be honest with you, the competitive meter here means almost nothing, I honestly dont know how it is calculated. haha. The strongest meren lists i have seen are Hermit Druid combo lists. how that combo works is like this (synopsis by SynergyBuild years ago, but still relevant because he is a badass) "Nah, by using the five color lands (City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, Tarnished Citadel, Exotic Orchard, and Reflecting Pool), along with fetchlands, you can build up a fast (low to no tapped lands), consistent (at getting your colors), and no-basic landbase for Hermit Druid to deck you. Bring back Dregscape Zombie and Bloodghast, sacrifice them to Dread Return, bring back Necrotic Ooze, then use Wall of Roots's ability to activate Blighted Bat's, then make infinite mana between Devoted Druid and Channeler Initiate, then use Walking Ballista to instantly win the game!"

As a bonus, Ballista combos with Mikaeus as well, so you have some synergies between the two. Things like Entomb and Buried Alive will net you Hermit early so you can access him in a hurry. Some fast mana in the form of creatures and rituals, some nice interaction like you already have, and bringing the average manavalue of your deck down will help as well. You are already runnning Stitcher's Supplier which is my favorite bit of tech. Ramunap Excavator is another solid bit of tech I really like to combine with Azusa, Lost but Seeking to get all kinds of value. Blood Pet, Stinkweed Imp, and Golgari Thug are all good bits of tech for Meren. The Gitrog Monster is also surprisingly good for us. The card draw he can get us with a little bit of ssetup is nothing to be scoffed at. To be honest, the main issue i am having currently is finding solid self-mill options.

Oof_Magic on Banlist Open Discussion

6 days ago

SynergyBuild I checked out a video explaining the Trickery deck and I concede, that is ridiculous. I had imagined it as being just as frail as something like Treasure Hunt + Lightning Storm. But the more cascade heavy variant would be trying you with that nonsense every single turn. Trickery is on par with Hypergenesis.

I maintain that Karn was the proper ban. The ‘only exists in the format to do broken things’ is applicable to any combo deck. Decks playing Thassa's Oracle probably aren’t looking to do ‘fair’ things. If Teferi, Time Raveler also could tutor for Knowledge Pool, I don’t think that would make Pool broken. Karn was the problem. The tutor doubled as a damned combo piece! That’s silly! If you could humor me for downtown hyptheticalville, if we errata Karn’s static ability away and add Null Rod to the format, I don’t think anything gets banned.

Caerwyn I definitely agree that Oko is far from safe to plug in right now. But I see it as a card where the meta may evolve to a point that it can accept Oko. I’m simply differentiating cards I think are up for discussion at some point or not. I don’t know what it would take to make the Oko conducive to Modern and whether that says anything good about the format. Oko doesn’t strike me as a Hypergenesis, Tibalt's Trickery, Dread Return, or Summer Bloom type of ban. And there are definitely different types of bans. I see Oko like Jace, the Mind Sculptor, Splinter Twin, or Umezawa's Jitte where we look back every couple years and wonder ‘Is it safe now?’ I agree I wouldn’t have any to see his stupid face any time soon but I wasn’t exactly thrilled to be seeing Jace and Stoneforge Mystic (talk about a linear play pattern). If we unleashed entirety of the ban list, maybe a Delver Oko build would be the one challenger amid a sea of combo decks. But I don’t think Oko would be very meaningful there. Modern would immediately become degenerate and some refer to Modern as Legacy-lite already. While I think the unleashing of absurd combos would be the totality of that transformation, perhaps releasing Oko is the first step in that direction. A direction that is ultimately unhealthy for the format. Aka: Where other bans are absolute, consensus, and thoroughly unquestionable, Oko is at least up for discussion.

sergiodelrio on Banlist Open Discussion

1 week ago

Hello fellow Planeswalkers. I made this thread so we can discuss the cards currently on the Modern banlist (SEE BOTTOM OF POST) and look if there may be candidates for unbanning, since it has been a while since something moved off the list.

I'm one of those crazy people that wants to live in a world where Mental Misstep and Gitaxian Probe are legal, but I see how that's not realistic whatsoever, so I won't talk about here. Let's have this discussion to be about REALISTIC, reasonable and safe unbannings.

Here are my candidates:

Deathrite Shaman - With all the easy cheap removal and grave hate in the format plus the general push of power level in the recent years, is this really a big deal anymore? Not even sure Jund wants it anymore. Since this doesn't enable a game winning combo or lockout on the spot, I think it deserves a second chance.

Artifact land cycle ala Ancient Den. So, they even injected another 10 artifact lands - are those even being played much competitively? My gut is this was a probe to see if they indeed could unban the old artifact lands. Artifact removal is much more available these days and the old artifact lands don't even come with indestructible sooo...

Rite of Flame - but Sergio! Fast mana is broken. Yes indeed. But they did ban Simian Spirit Guide and hear my out why Rite of Flame is weaker. SSG does not require you to play or a mountain to activate, Rite does and even costs a mana to begin with. SSG has a secondary feature being a creature and can be cast at a reasonable cost of 3 mana. Rite doesn't have that. Since they took Mox Opal and SSG, I think Rite of Flame might deserve a chance as a weaker substitution.

Please tell me what you think about that and/or show me your argumenst for other unbannings that you can see happening.


Ancient Den

Arcum's Astrolabe

Birthing Pod

Blazing Shoal

Bridge from Below

Chrome Mox

Cloudpost

Dark Depths

Deathrite Shaman

Dig Through Time

Dread Return

Eye of Ugin

Faithless Looting

Field of the Dead

Gitaxian Probe

Glimpse of Nature

Golgari Grave-Troll

Great Furnace

Green Sun's Zenith

Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis

Hypergenesis

Krark-Clan Ironworks

Mental Misstep

Mox Opal

Mycosynth Lattice

Mystic Sanctuary

Oko, Thief of Crowns

Once Upon a Time

Ponder

Preordain

Punishing Fire

Rite of Flame

Seat of the Synod

Second Sunrise

Seething Song

Sensei's Divining Top

Simian Spirit Guide

Skullclamp

Splinter Twin

Summer Bloom

Tibalt's Trickery

Treasure Cruise

Tree of Tales

Umezawa's Jitte

Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath

Vault of Whispers

Teeyou12 on muldrotha new

1 week ago

Cut the basic lands. Add pretty much any non basic in their place. This will let you mill your entire library with Hermit Druid. If you have Muldrotha out you then cast Thassa's Oracle from your yard to win the game. Or, with 3 creatures on board, you can flash back Dread Return.

A copy of Phyrexian Delver will let you form a back up hulk pile around the Mikaeus, the Unhallowed Walking Ballista combo by using Protean Hulk to find Delver and Viscera Seer, using the delver to bring back Hulk, sacking hulk to seer, and finding Mikaeus and ballista.

As for non combo related additions, Nihil Spellbomb is pretty much a strictly better version of Soul-Guide Lantern in this deck where you can recur them. Your only playing 9 peices of ramp in the deck with a 6 mana commander that seems to be your main value engine. I would recommend adding more with cards like Millikin and Deranged Assistant.Also run Simic Signet and the talismans in your colors like Talisman of Curiosity. ETB effects like Wood Elves and Elvish Rejuvenator may also be good. Your in green so mana dorks are very good. Elves of Deep Shadow and Arbor Elf in particular. Expedition Map may be worth playing due to your ability to recur it and find any land you want to your hand.

At 6 mana you also have to be able to protect your commander once she hits the board to keep from getting blown out. You have a few cards that do this already but Voidmage Prodigy is a very versatile card that can sacrifice itself and be recurred. Swiftfoot Boots is also a good effect for this.

As for general cuts, Avenger of Zendikar, Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat, Tombstone Stairwell don't help you get to your combos faster, don't slow down your opponenets, and arent involved in any combos I can see myself. While Blood Artist, Zulaport Cutthroat can be used as replacements for Disciple of the Vault in your persit combo, they can't be included in the hulk pile and don't contribute to any of your other combos.

I don't think you need 3 edict creatures in the deck so maybe cut Merciless Executioner. If you find you need that density than keep it but its going to kind of be a dead card if you can cast one of the others from your graveyard already.

Chronic Flooding is a bit to slow IMO. I recommend Undercity Informer as both a sac outlet and a mill card, and/or Stitcher's Supplier.

I generally want my removal to actually get rid of the thing in EDH though it is worth noting you can use these effects to bounce your own commander to save it if need be. Aether Spellbomb and Seal of Removal are possible cuts but not neccessarilly. Recommend something like Shriekmaw or Executioner's Capsule if you do feel like removing it. Beast Within is also a good card, even if it doesn't synergize extremely well with your commander.

Apollo_Paladin on Ultra-Budget Speed Dredge (2x 5-Card "Gold Hands")

1 month ago

@ darkbuff

No, I have not revamped this build in quite some time. Persist isn't a bad call at all; I'd be curious to see how the deck plays with some of them in place of Dread Return. Thanks for the suggestion!

TypicalTimmy on Proxies, yay or nay?

1 month ago

RNR_Gaming, I'm not sure what's worse. That guy or the one who actually punched me for pointing out the state of his creature.

He was playing Jund and cast a massive Primordial Hydra for like X=6. No haste. He just grinned shittily and passed turn.

I held onto my spells, did a few small things and passed.

His upkeep, it's now a 12/12. He swings.

Terminate.

He scoffs and moves it to his graveyard. Second main phase, he taps some lands and casts Dread Return, putting P.Hydra back into play.

He gives me the biggest, most arrogant grin imaginable. Smug like he just got away with murder in front of the Judge and victims family.

I pause for a brief moment as my little hamster wheel slowly creeks to a stop and ask, "uh, that dies?"

WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO IT DOESNT!?

...you didn't pay into X.

IT'S A 6/6!!

...counters don't move with it to the graveyard. Because you didn't cast it, it's a 0/0 and dies. (I know now it doesn't 'die', it moves to the graveyard via state based actions after the game checks it's toughness being 0.)

He threw his hand against the table and began slamming his fist against it. At this point I laughed and told him to chill out, it's just a game.

He threw a hook at me, hitting me in the shoulder.

FunnyDuck on Never Break the Chain (Chainer, Nightmare Adept)

2 months ago

Cornonjacob07

I like your idea of Hellkite Tyrant so I've made a swap for him, getting rid of Vandalblast while simultaniously moving Ingot Chewer out for Shenanigans . I'll have an opportunity soon enough to test those things out, so I may as well make the change for now. Thanks for that suggestion! :)

I personally am not a fan of the forced discard of your entire hand that Ox of Agonas has. At least, not for just three cards. Wheel of Misfortune is a good enough Wheel of Fortune impersonation that I would still prioritize it over the 'discard hand draw 3 creatures'. Draw 7 is so much more powerful for a deck reliant on burst damage such as this one. And in a roundabout sense, self-milling using Dredge cards is much the same result, so perhaps one of the options between Ox, Ravager, or Reveler is a good subtitiute to replace Stinkweed Imp if you like those effects more.

And as for nuPurphoros, I am not a fan of him here. In a mono-Red deck sure, but there's just too many Black creatures here for him to be consistent with his effect, which is the major thing differentiating him over other Haste enablers. He's very borderline worth the 5 mana as a Haste-granter, and certainly not worth it as an 8 mana Sneak Attack that only works with half your creatures. If you're having trouble with keeping Chainer on board as your primary Haste effect, always keep in mind that you don't have to send him to the Command Zone everytime he's done in. Conserve some of your redundant recursion ( Reanimate , Dread Return ) for him. Or just jam Lightning Greaves and/or Ogre Battledriver somewhere in the deck!

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