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Torment of Hailfire
Repeat the following process X times. Each opponent loses 3 life unless that player sacrifices a nonland permanent or discards a card.
Torment of Hailfire Discussion
2 days ago
I like your deck's style but you seem light on control finishers. On a budget I would recommend Approach of the Second Sun , Revel in Riches , Exsanguinate , Mind's Dilation , Painful Quandary , or Torment of Hailfire . There are others but things like Cyclonic Rift and Expropriate ain't cheap.
You also are kinda low on ramp and, for a control deck especially, card draw. You do have some but the conventional wisdom is eight-ish draw cards and eight-ish ramp cards (depending on plenty of variables, of course).
Seems like you're off to a good start though!
5 days ago
Hey, nice version of Scarab, great first attempt.
Some upgrades within the budget to consider:
- Wonder > Grimoire of the Dead
- Windfall > Ancient Excavation
- Diabolic Intent > Exsanguinate
- Relentless Dead > Noosegraf Mob
- Graveborn Muse > Liliana's Reaver
- Arcane Signet or Talisman of Dominance > Commander's Sphere
- Arcane Denial > Countersquall
Wonder can give all your creatures flying including Scarab. It's great with Buried Alive and Entomb to tutor for it and put it into your graveyard. Grimoire has a powerful ability, but it's painfully slow, needing four turns before you can sac it. Scarab's ability can be used on your opponents' creatures in their individual graveyards and Windfall is a wheel which makes all players discard their hands and draw cards filling up their graveyards with potential creatures to exile. Windfall is one of the best blue cards in Commander.
Diabolic Intent is another tutor that can search for any one card. Exsanguinate is a fine card, but Torment of Hailfire is better and I don't see a need for both. Relentless Dead is a good two drop Zombie and there's not a lot of two drop options. Mob is lackluster for a six drop compared to the other six drops such as Titan and Mikaeus. Graveborn Muse is very good repeatable draw with Zombies and Scarab's upkeep trigger can gain you life that you loss from Muse. Reaver is fine, but not as impactful as Muse.
Whenever you can play a two drop mana rock in place of a three drop then this change can speed up gameplay. Arcane Signet is new in the ELD Brawl precons which right now can be hard to find, but you can buy it as a single online for less than $10. Arcane or Talisman of Dominance can make black mana the turn you play it which can be helpful with so many low mana cost Zombies. The single draw from Sphere is nice, but there's lots of three drop Zombie Lords here that would be a better three drop play then Sphere.
Denial is a two drop hard counter with only one in it's mana cost making it good with a heavy black manabase.
Others upgrades to consider:
- Lim-Dul's Vault > Pull from Tomorrow
- Dark Ritual > Vanquisher's Banner
- Ponder > Consuming Aberration
- Animate Dead > Havengul Lich
- Murderous Rider or Hero's Downfall > Grimgrin, Corpse-Born
These last upgrades to consider are cutting high mana cost cards and replacing them with low mana cost cards to speed up gameplay. The five drop spot has a lot of options with Scarab as the go to play having lots of other five drops can hinder gameplay since you don't really want to play them over Scarab and having a hand full of five drops doesn't help. Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
Hey man! I got some suggestions. Feel free to ignore any/all of them:
There's a reason Ponder and Preordain are banned in Modern, and it's because they're good. I highly suggest running both in any blue deck -- they may not look like much, but being able to dig to what you need and past what you don't for one mana is a deal I'll take any day. You're running a good number of fetch lands, so Brainstorm is one you may want to add in there as well.
I don't know what your meta is like, but in general people need to draw a bunch of cards to win the game. Narset, Parter of Veils brings back thoughts of when Leovold, Emissary of Trest was legal... I think almost any blue deck should run her, especially since if you run Windfall (I think you should), she can win you the game. Or your Wheel of Fortune .
I don't know how this deck plays, but I suspect you'll have at least one or two creatures out at a time. If you do, Azra Oddsmaker can be a good source of card-advantage; Edric, Spymaster of Trest is similar, though better if you have dorks (see (5)). Painful Truths is another favorite of mine, as are Treasure Cruise , Dark Confidant , Dig Through Time and Thirst for Knowledge . Faithless Looting can also be pretty good.
A lot of decks run a lot of artifact ramp. Dack Fayden is a great way to capitalize on that, and if you run Notion Thief (which also pairs with your Windfall ), targeting your opponent with Dack's +1 can produce a four card swing.
Dorks. You're in green, so you have access to the best ramp in the game, aside from Sol Ring (which I think you should run). I highly suggest including any/all of the following in addition to your Deathrite Shaman : Birds of Paradise , Elves of Deep Shadow , Orcish Lumberjack , Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Bloom Tender , Arbor Elf ... Though they may not be 'dork'-ramp, I've also been impressed with Utopia Sprawl and Wild Growth , not least because these double the mana from Arbor Elf . If you end up running Edric, Spymaster of Trest , the dorks will draw you cards when you're not using them for mana.
If you're looking for the best way to generate infinite mana with your general, I think Isochron Scepter with Dramatic Reversal is the best way. You'd need to run either artifact ramp or dorks (I highly advise the latter), but it's a pretty busted combo and I think you should put some ramp in anyway. This lets you draw your deck with Thrasios, Triton Hero and then win through Torment of Hailfire or the like.
Reflecting Pool is an often-chromatic land you may wish to consider, and Exotic Orchard is frequently at least a tri-land. I may be missing something, but running Strip Mine and Wasteland to pair with your Crucible of Worlds and Ramunap Excavator seems... good.
You're running two artifacts (three, if you run the aforementioned Sol Ring ): You should give strong consideration to things like Collector Ouphe (if you don't like the Isochron Scepter loop) or even a janky Energy Flux . These'll make sure opponents don't do nasty things with their own Isochron Scepter while hardly touching you. Also, things like Ancient Grudge or By Force are powerful magic cards.
Spell Snare is a counterspell you may want to consider, as it counters a wide range of frequently played cards in EDH like Demonic Tutor , Cyclonic Rift (overloaded or not), Winter Orb , all the talismans/signets, Counterspell , Mana Drain , Arcane Denial , Sylvan Library , Chains of Mephistopheles , Abeyance , Baleful Strix , Nature's Lore ... Also, if you're in an Ad Nauseam -heavy meta (I sure as hell am), consider things like Dispel to keep those decks in check.
If your meta is blue-heavy (most are), consider some second-order countermagic. Things like Veil of Summer and Vexing Shusher can both make sure your spells resolve. Similarly, Carpet of Flowers is a good way to get free mana from blue opponents, and Pyroblast tends to be good as well.
Personally, I've found Mystic Remora to be better than Rhystic Study , if only because it is one mana. People are way less likely to pay four mana than one, and in less experienced metas people tend to let you pull off an Ancestral Recall or two in two-ish turn cycles. In more experienced metas, Mystic Remora slows the game down as your opponents wait for it to go away and you just make sure you hit your land-drops.
Multi-for-ones are pretty important in a format with three opponents. Fire Covenant has been a favorite piece of removal in my meta since it'll clear out opponents' creatures while leaving yours untouched. Hull Breach and Decimate are also good, although it is important to bare in mind that Decimate requires a bunch of different targets in order to be castable. Windgrace's Judgment and even Casualties of War are also good.
If you want to go deep into magic history, there's another way to make infinite mana in your colors in addition to (6): Worldgorger Dragon . Entomb , Buried Alive or Faithless Looting to the graveyard this mo-fo, then cast Animate Dead , Necromancy or Dance of the Dead targeting him, and BOOM you win. (In case you aren't familiar with the combo, Animate Dead returns Worldgorger Dragon to the battlefield, and then Worldgorger Dragon triggers to exile Animate Dead . Animate Dead leaving then makes you sacrifice Worldgorger Dragon , bringing back Animate Dead and then Worldgorger Dragon ... rinse and repeat. Tapping your lands for mana in between each exile trigger yields infinite mana. WARNINGS: 1. You need a second creature in a graveyard to end the loop, or the game is a draw; 2. If someone Nature's Claim s your Animate Dead while the Worldgorger Dragon is entering the battlefield, you lose everything and you're boned. So make sure either your opponents are out of mana/counterspells or you've got your own protective backup.)
I think that's all I got. Good luck!
1 week ago
First thing I'll suggest additions
- mana ramp: Lotus Cobra - land etb you add one mana of any color - pushes your ramp faster
Amulet of Vigor - if a permanent you control etbs tapped, untap it. Not only ramps you faster, but gets past those pesky all your things come in tapped crud.
Exploration - you may play an additional land each turn, only . Very few things are more satisfying than having 7 lands turn 3 while everyone else is just putting down their third land.
Boundless Realms - search for as many basic lands as lands you control
Scapeshift - search for as many lands (basic or not) as you sacrifice
Kodama's Reach - you need a bunch of ramp spells to act with in case you don't have lord windgrace or he becomes too expensive to cast
Demonic Tutor - search your library for a card
Vampiric Tutor - search your library for a card
Beseech the Queen - search your library for a card
Summoner's Pact - pay or lose at your upkeep
Chord of Calling - search for or less CMC creature
Tooth and Nail - search for two creatures or put two creatures onto the battlefield from your hand
Rude Awakening - all lands you control become 2/2 creatures or you untap all lands or both
three of the five panoramas: The other two only fetch you one of the lands
Jund Panorama - search for any of the three basic land types you need
Grixis Panorama - search for swamp or mountain
Naya Panorama - search for mountain or forest
three of the temples:
Temple of Malady - BG scry 1.
Temple of Malice - BR scry 1.
Temple of Abandon - GR scry 1.
Things to do with
Fireball - x damage to creature or player
Crater's Claws - x damage to creature or player
Rolling Thunder - x damage to creature or player - can do more targets
Banefire - x damage to creature or player
Bonfire of the Damned xx to do x damage to tgt player and each creature he controls
Torment of Hailfire - choice of losing 3 life, sacrifice a nonland permanent, or discard a card - hilarious for huge numbers of x, and can swing the game beyond anyone recovering
Consume Spirit - x loss of life and x gain of life for you
Suffer the Past - x loss of life for x exiled cards from tgt player's graveyard. Kills their recursion and them
Dark Salvation - xx for x zombies and making a creature -x/-x until end of turn.
1 week ago
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1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Infinite Mana Combos:
- Bloom Tender + ( Freed from the Real OR Pemmin's Aura )
- Dramatic Reversal + Isochron Scepter + mana rocks/dorks that give at least 3 mana
- Palinchron + ( High Tide OR Mana Reflection )
- Dryad Arbor + Utopia Sprawl
3 weeks ago
oops, almost forgot things like Torment of Hailfire which can also get rid of artifacts. my initial gatherer search only consisted of cards whose rules text contain "artifact". i'm not gonna do another of cards whose rules text contain "permanent", because i think my point has been satisfactorily made by now.
Torment of Hailfire occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.07%
UBR (Grixis): 0.52%