Toxic Deluge

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Toxic Deluge

Sorcery

As an additional cost to cast this spell, pay X life.

All creatures get -X/-X until end of turn.

Metroid_Hybrid on Maxing out pre-Modern cEDH

3 days ago

I have a single, serious cEDH deck built around Yawgmoth, Thran Physicianfoil— but with a single, important caveat: EVERY card in the deck that is not explicitly part of the central combo has an “Old” border; that is, either legitimately has a pre-Modern (pre-8ED) printing, or at least received a “Timeshifted” printing after the fact..

But with the printing of Hancock, Ghoulish Mayor, and the recent “Timeshifted” reprinting of Toxic Deluge, I am compelled to asked the T/O community for the first time in over 3 years……

How can I max-out the competitive potential of this particular deck, while still maintaining the said “pre-Modern” prerequisite?


Yawgmoth - mk_I (Vintage Phyrexia)(v2.8)

Commander / EDH Metroid_Hybrid

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The only possibilities that I can think of…

Elhoggerino on Blood Blatter Beast of Bhaal

1 month ago

I also don't really understand Fog or Spore Frog but I know you like politics so maybe they'll be fun in order to get favours from people. Loads of card draw which is nice but again I can see you running out of creatures to sac for Village Rites and Deadly Dispute type cards. You generally need to draw cards while behind and while behind you might be suffering from graveyard hate agaist your skeletons or other effects - just something to consider. Also Damnation might be something to consider switching for a different boardwioe if you are gonna put some regenerate creatures in (Toxic Deluge turns off regenerate aswell - but it's such a good card it's probably worth it)

In terms of cuts to make to make space for more dummies, Shadow in the Warp doesn't really fit much in the deck - you have so many cheap creatures that you'll probably be casting more than one a turn and it will rarely help that much - and the 2 damage is pretty insignificant compared to your other effects. I would favour Llanowar Elves type cards over Fertile Ground as again, creatures are what you want and they give you the oppurtunity to sac them if you need.

Some good cards to consider:

Victimize - brings back your Sakura-Tribe Elder type cards and is a sac outlet at the same time

Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger - just great value aswell as triggering Bhaal. A good reanimator target aswell.

Recurring Nightmares - Reanimator + sac outlet + it doesn't die? This card's great.

Dread Wanderer? Not the best but helps you out in a pinch if you have a Village Rites and nothing else

Nether Traitor - I don't know why this isn't in there already

HeavenlyAxe on

3 months ago

Hey Indie,

First off I really like the lands you have assembled and the suggestions from SufferFromEDHD are all good.

You are definitely going to want an artifact ramp package.

Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Arcane Signet, Fellwar Stone, Gilded Lotus, Thran Dynamo

Special Mention to Nyx Lotus, it could be good being in mono black. and Jeweled Lotus, pays for your commander for free on turn 1 even.

Sword of the Animist is not bad ramp at all and buffs yours rats

Commander's Plate might be cute.

Liliana of the Dark Realms, makes sure you always get a land drop and could make your swamps tap for four.

Chittering Witch if your playing with more opponents.

Crypt Ghast is sort of ramp, but doubles your swamps. Very good in mono black.

Dauthi Voidwalker is not on theme at all but is just sooo much value in a two cost card I have to recommend it.

God-Eternal Bontu is excellent draw power in the right situation.

Dont forget you can run any number of Relentless Rats

Gray Merchant of Asphodel will heal you up a lot and hurt your opponents

Krav, the Unredeemed is also great card draw.

Yawgmoth, Thran Physician, has card draw, removal, and proliferate all on one card

Deadly Rollick, potentially free removal

Defile, cheap good removal

Thrilling Encore saves you from a board wipe or lets you bring everything back after sacrificing it all to like God-Eternal Bontu

Phyrexian Arena some ok card draw.

Bojuka Bog if you are worried about graveyards

Mutilate, a good board wipe in mono black

Night's Whisper, Read the Bones, Sign in Blood, are a great draw package for mono black

Toxic Deluge a great board wipe for when things need resetting, and you could follow with Thrilling Encore and get it all back

Syphon Mind is great draw if your playing with more players

Victimize - is really really strong, get rid of one weak thing for two of your best things

Yawgmoth's Will - lets you treat your graveyard like your hand for a turn

Lord Skitter, Sewer King makes rats

Marrow-Gnawer - lets you make lots of rats

Infectious Inquiry - good draw and gives poison

Ogre Slumlord - makes rats when your creatures or your opponents creatures die.

Tangled Colony - if your opponent has to block it or it dies to like Blasphemous Act will make you rats

Vraska's Fall removal and poison counter

Drown in Ichor removal and poison

Bontu's Monument all your creatures cost less

Rat Colony can have any number and they buff themselves, and cost less mana than Relentless Rats

Typhoid Rats deathtouch rat opponents wont want to block

Crypt Rats can board wipe but can also win the game if you give it infect, doesnt work with your commander because toxic specifies combat damage but does work if you give it infect and deal damage with it's ability.

Ratcatcher tutors rats, and gives you card advantage

Ashcoat of the Shadow Swarm - buffs your rats and lets you get rats back

Wave of Rats has blitz and reanimates itself

Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni rat that steals opponents stuff

Nashi, Moon Sage's Scion rat that steals opponents stuff

Adaptive Automaton is a rat and buffs rats

Okiba-Gang Shinobi rat makes opponents discard and has ninjutsu

Filth gives all your rats swampwalk pairs well with Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth

Dark Ritual lets your get a head start or some extra mana a turn you need it

Tainted Strike instant speed infect, funny in multiplayer because you can use it on anyone's creatures.

Phyresis Outbreak gives poison and might kill opponents creatures

Feed the Swarm enchantment removal in black

Vat Emergence gets a creature back and proliferates

Spread the Sickness destroys a creatures and proliferates

Pact of the Serpent strong tribal card draw

Living Death swap graveyards with battlefields, great after sacrificing your whole board to draw cards

Skullclamp sack small rats for card draw

Thrumming Stone if you go the Relentless Rats or Rat Colony route

Coat of Arms your rats will be huge

Bolas's Citadel this card is dumb lol, lots of casting power and then you hit Gray Merchant of Asphodel and keep going lol

Icon of Ancestry kinda draw buffs rats...is ok

Contagion Engine proliferate twice each time you activate

Eldrazi Monument gives creatures flying indestructible and +1/+1

Grafted Exoskeleton gives a creature infect, great with Crypt Rats

Sword of Truth and Justice proliferate sword

Bad Moon buff all black creatures, opponents too

Phyresis gives infect again good with Crypt Rats

Greed card draw

Vraska, Betrayal's Sting proliferate planes walker

I know that's a lot but hopefully gave you some ideas to work with!

Crow_Umbra on Murders at Karlov Manor

4 months ago

Holy crap Reanimate, Black Sun's Zenith, Animate Dead, Necromancy, and Toxic Deluge all reprinted in the Dimir precon?

Duskana, the Rage Mother is a fun and cheeky way to do either Bear Typal, or Morph/Mega Morph/Disguise/Cloak/Manifest.

At a quick glance, it seems like the Boros precon has the most underwhelming reprints, besides Jeska's Will. Glad to see it getting reprinted again.

capwner on The Harvesttide Festival [Human Primer]

5 months ago

Selesnya legendary toolbox was my first EDH deck, with Captain Sisay! Love the theme and flavor on this, recent changes look really solid too! Maybe Sisay herself could fit, being a human that tutors for a lot of key cards :) First thing I noticed was your amount of protection effects (which I think is a good idea in this creature strat), maybe adding something like Ghostway or Eerie Interlude which protects you through things like Toxic Deluge or Farewell could be good even though it clears your counters. Teferi's Protection is of course the peak of these cards, but I know that one's kinda spendy. Hardened Scales would probably fit well too and is $2. Yasharn, Implacable Earth, Krosan Verge, and Gaddock Teeg are some of my favorite Selesnya cards in general. Overall cool deck, I like the flavorful legends!

Profet93 on

5 months ago

Goldberserkerdragon +1

Budget per card? Meta? Anything you feel you want to add to your deck or is lacking?

Phyrexian Arena > Dark tutelage. I get that you want to lose more life to trigger your commander's ability, but you already have so much redundancy. Rather than adding to that redundancy, it would be better to more cheaply draw while you set up your commander in the early game. While your avg CMC is low enough that this isn't a huge deal, every bit helps.

The Meathook Massacre - Removal and lifegain in 1

Some flexibility in your mana base might suit you well, budget dependent. Let me know if you're interested in the that route.

Given that your commander is the linchpin of the deck, you need more ways to protect (and recur it). Imp's Mischief - It redirects targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells. All while losing life as desired.

Grim Tutor - Solid tutor with lifeloss for commander

Toxic Deluge - Surprised this isn't in here already. 1) Boardwipe, 2) Specific lifeloss 3) Synergy with profane transfusion

Tsukimi on Alela's Huge Goads

9 months ago

LynxGoddess First off thank you so much for all of this! My friends and I play with proxies, so price is not an issue for us. You caught me right before I printed the final deck and I am glad I can make some of these edits in time!

Yea can you tell I don't build blue black often? I'll swap one of the diamonds for Dimir Signet, any thoughts on other cheap mana rocks I may have missed? Yes we proxy but I try to avoid crazy expensive/competitive cards like Jeweled Lotus. I have somehow never seen Tolaria West before, excellent suggestion. I don't play black often so it seemed like Cabal/Urborg would be fun if I could get it off, but not necessary for the deck. Appreciate the land suggestions as well, never thought of using all those fetches for UB mana correction, gonna make those changes now.

The mana curve is a lil too high for sure, was definitely just excited to build typal faeries haha. Nymris is an easy cut, and I'll work on lowering the mana curve so there's more room for shenanigans. Cards like Hullbreaker Horror, Kindred Dominance, Tegwyll's Scouring etc are mainly fun pet cards that I'm going to try out, but are first on my to cut list since they're so high CMC wise. My playgroup decided to work away from every deck having power cards like Cyclonic Rift or Toxic Deluge in every deck with those colors, so I've been trying to find fun (if not less efficient) alternatives like Raise the Palisade.

If you ever need any deck suggestions let me know, this was a huge help and I really appreciate the detailed feedback!

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