As Frontier Siege enters the battlefield, choose Khans or Dragons.
• Khans — At the beginning of each of your main phases, add to your mana pool. • Dragons — Whenever a creature with flying enters the battlefield under your control, you may have it fight target creature you don't control.
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Frontier Siege Discussion
3 weeks ago
Dude! Thank you so much for your constructive feedback and suggestions. I really appreciate it, as I want this Deck to be as good as it can be. I would love to see your build,but I didn't see it on your page.
Let's see, where to start. I agree the Birds of Paradise could be cut, but I believe hexproof/ramp creatures are better than mana rocks in this build as they offer a mana dork that has great evasion, can be enchanted to be made bigger, and can attack and/or block, therefore, better than artifacts that won't trigger my enchantresses. Land Tax not only allows me to pull all of the extra basic lands out of my deck, but also allows me to change the top card of my deck if I don't like what I see there with the Courser of Kruphix, Mul Daya Channelers, or Vizier of the Menagerie.
Quietus Spike, Grafted Exoskeleton again, not enchantments, and not cohesive to enchantress build. therefore inferior to bow and spear. Also, Spear of Heliod double as buff and removal. Bow of Nylea quintuple action, lifegain, removal, recursion, buff, and deathtouch.
Mana rocks, again, not enchantments. Frontier Siege, you ask?? it provides an extra 2 green mana during first main phase, and Another 2 green mana on 2nd main phase. that's 4 mana per turn. how can you top that for ramp?
Femeref Enchantress? Boardwipe insurance indeed, also every time anyone kills an enchantment I get to draw a card, including when I do it....Card draw = more cards in hand, no matter where it comes from. Speaking of card draw, I should prolly add the Reliquary Tower good call.
Gift of Immortality is one that's been in and out of the deck again and again, I like it, but there are so many good cards to choose from, and it seems to keep getting cut, I'll try it again. Replenish is great, however I don't have it, and it's pricey. Umbra Mystic I have and again, she's in and out depending on how I feel that day, or if I'm doing multiplayer, vs 1v1.
Bronzehide Lion I haven't pulled yet, And while indestructible is good, it doesn't have hexproof like it's older counterpart, Fleecemane Lion and is as such, inferior, plus it's situational, as you have to have open mana to use it's abilities, plus the loses other abilities clause is kinda weak.
I think I have Sigil of the Empty Throne I can give that a try as well. The other cards, I don't have, But I will consider them.
Again, thanks for the feedback, and I would love it if you wish to try and change my mind on any of these suggestions.
3 weeks ago
In terms of cuts to add the things I suggested:
- Bear Umbra is powerful ramp if you can tutor it out. I get that you want the infinite Earthcraft combo, but maybe you can cut Land Tax? At least the Umbra doubles as totem armor.
- Swap Arrest for some of the other Auras which completely disable permanents/creatures.
- How often has Quarantine Field gone off for anything above 2?
- Birds, Paradise Druid and Caryatid seem unneeded.
- Bow and Spear? I run mana rocks, Quietus Spike (maybeboard) and Grafted Exoskeleton.
- Serra's (Blessing, Embrace) are potentially underpowered. Though vigilance is very good in here.
- I think you can cut some lands for mana rocks, personally. It lets you ramp faster on average.
- I'm on the fence about Femeref Enchantress. She's boardwipe insurance and that's it. There are other ways to recover from wipes (Wheel of Sun and Moon), and without unlim hand size you lose a bunch to the grave. I'd suggest the land inclusions plus Renaissance.
- Frontier Siege ??
1 month ago
As for Rahnun's suggestions:
- Grunn, the Lonely King
- Primordial Sage
- Guardian Project
- Gaea's Touch
- Nissa's Pilgrimage
- Llanowar Tribe
- Kodama's Reach
- Frontier Siege
- Greater Good
- Traverse the Outlands
- Grothama, All-Devouring
- Hunter's Prowess
- Evolutionary Escalation
- Cultivator of Blades
- Mossbridge Troll
- Pathbreaker Ibex
- Forgotten Ancient
- Worldly Tutor
- Swiftfoot Boots
- Sylvan Library
- Force of Vigor
- Mirage Mirror
- Strionic Resonator
- Green Sun's Zenith
- Natural Order
- Sylvan Scrying
- Heroic Intervention
- Soul of the Harvest
1 month ago
(CAUTION: TL;DR Crap AHEAD; Reason: This is a set of opinions of cards of note for this deck.)
@king-saproling: After all this, I'd like a possible Review on this deck, as well as this:
Commander / EDH*
30 VIEWS | IN 1 FOLDER
This is a 1 Damage KO Deck. Utilizing Card Advantage, a Myriad of threats to slow those down, Heck, I actually put the High CMC stuff in as Atemsis Bantha Fodder. just to win a game; so they're not useless at all as this is how Atemsis, All-Seeing Works as a CMDR; high amounnts of unique CMC Costs for use.
But what about these?
Hall of Gemstone
: (I guess Omnath Reserve works here?)
(Ramp or Kill... I'd rather ramp; not enough powerful creatures to be a "Dragon"...)
(Is this why you said "No." to a
(But why use this, W/O
(I, uh,,, How good is this? I never understood how these effects are "Good".)
(It's a Random Pick, but at least you get to choose which pick needed. II keep.)
7: Teferi's Puzzle Box ( Mindmoil ? IN MY ?! Permanent Keep.) 8: Meteor Golem If only what this guy can do IRL is safe; as it's not. Awesome effect; almost like a Bramblecrush on legs; Artifice also. Keep.). 9. Cauldron of Souls (This looks good for my Cromat "No Counters Allowed" Deck. But why the recommendation?
10: Colfenor's Urn (Uh... I'd have an opinion as long as I know Exile Stoarge Plus'.) 11: Lifeline (I'd like to make a list of stuff hates, & recursion is one. Since we're in theme, this Pases.) 12: Mimic Vat (This is secret tech for Superfriends; but what to use w/ here) 13: Mirrorworks 14: Not of This World (This wasn't chopped. This was Planet-Cleaved. How many creatures here have 7 Power?) 15: Pariah's Shield (I guess it's for Omnath? I'd like to change this up after this as well as work on my Atemsis Deck for this.)
As well as the Losers of this deck...
(There is a combo involving this,
, something w/ Deathtouch, &
It That Betrays
to wipe a whole field clean while going to Value Town. Why the cut?)
(I re-entered this in as it's Mana-Pricey, but we've Omnath Anyway; so putting this online is proof of
's HUGE Ramp.)
(I guess we've already enough flying stuff; & this was just a clunker.)
(Why cut this, & not
Song of the Dryads
also? Is this for turning a creature into a mere blocker?)
(Is this Aura really that bad? Alright,
Tuvasa the Sunlit
has it now.)
(Reclaim is at least, affordable (Quasi-Recursion via Topdecking;
is basically the same, but on
level power. Why does everyone think Phyrexian Mana Cards are so good? I'll never know...)
Scour from Existence
(Do I Other Ways of Destruction? I guess I'll allow the cut.)
Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
(Are Eldrazi that Bad here? It's either This, or Kozilek, & It that Betrays. Should I trust my gut on this?)
: Replaced by
indefinitely unless it gets banned.
Key to the City
: (I guess The Quasi-Rummage requiring more mana for one to have a creature unblackable, then untap to Draw. I didn't think I'd be better off w/o Discarding...)
(Blowing up Mana Rocks; someone said (Kinda...), But you were right about this as a cut; I thought it as sketchy.)
Sensei's Divining Top
((?_?) I mean, even
is understandable, but saying Chopp'd to a Big Staple of all Commander/EDH? I'm at a loss...)
(Should I put
((Looks at Card.) Why say no? It makes food, & ramps. Just imagine the (Weiß)Versatility this can do.
It That Betrays
(Why say no to this? is it that average? Remember that Value Town Combo...).
Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
(Does this attract that much hate? Is that why the Eldrazi are veto'd here?
Wall of Tanglecord
(Actually, good piont; would rather bust defenses, not use them.)
(Are you confident to suggest cutting
It's one of the best cards in this case, sadly...)
20: Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger (Doubling Land Mana; & more so, while Halfing everyone else? Is the problem w/ big fatties I didn't know of even?) 21: Bow of Nylea (+1/+1 Counter on a Creature? 2 Damage to a flyer? 3 Life? & Retrieve 4 Cards from the Yard to the Bottom of your library in any order? Attackers have Deathtouch? Damn; I'd actually put this in now if I've a way to Untap Freely for this...)
& the underdogs?
(Is this worth keeping? Seems lackluster...)
(Searching for all Forests? Why not Landfall like mad? Opinions?)
3: Prototype Portal + Ugin's Nexus
Extra Turns w/o
. Good, or not?)
4: Sword of the Animist Is this good for ramp? I'm wondering...) 5: Umbral Mantle (Yeah, this could've been good, if the Shaman Staff 1 Damage Deathtouch Steal via IT THAT BETRAYS is far better even w/o the last piece!) 6: Yeva, Nature's Herald : (Is another Restricted to just Creatures worth it?) 7: Nylea, God of the Hunt : Already got a way to Trample like MAD, & I've other ways to increase both Power & toughness for my creatures anyway. Nylea, Keen-Eyed ? Worse here, but better in Animar, Soul of Elements all-creature builds. Oh, & the latter demands Topdecking, otherwise, you might just wasted a good card.
Sorry for the immense sized comments; I just want to point out my opinions; & I'm sorry if So, that said, I'll revise my Atemsis, All-Seeing Deck later; It's night where I'm at...
1 month ago
Nice! You might like these: Wild Beastmaster , Frontier Siege , Mark of Sakiko , Hunter's Prowess , Rishkar's Expertise , Inquisitor's Flail , Fireshrieker , Grappling Hook , Tempting Licid , Engulfing Slagwurm , Kusari-Gama , Viridian Joiner , God-Eternal Rhonas , Majestic Myriarch , Fungal Sprouting . Whoops and almost forgot Forgotten Ancient
1 month ago
Interesting deck idea! You might like these: Hall of Gemstone , Frontier Siege , Silent Arbiter , Angel's Trumpet , Uba Mask , Abundance , Teferi's Puzzle Box , Meteor Golem , Cauldron of Souls , Colfenor's Urn , Lifeline , Mimic Vat , Mirrorworks , Not of This World , Pariah's Shield
2 months ago
Your deck's average CMC is a bit high (even for eldrazi). In addition, you have a low amount of ramp (although a fair amount of the ramp you do have is solid). The combination of high average CMC and low ramp can often result in a higher than average amount of games where the deck will not do anything productive for far too long. So first and foremost, we should find a way to lower the deck's average CMC while simultaneously increasing its ramp/mana acceleration. Secondly, we want to add more removal/disruption to the deck. Finally, we want to upgrade the average card quality. Doing these three things will DRASTICALLY improve this deck's competitiveness, speed, and power. Removal/disruption is crucial at every point of a commander game, but it is absolutely vital in the early turns of the game. This is even more true when talking about a slower deck. Being able to stop an opponent's explosive starts or protect yourself from early threats is very important. Removal allows slower decks to make it to late game where they can then take over and dominate. Animar is an incredibly powerful commander AND his CMC is very low. Casting him early provides you with an ever growing blocker/attacker that also helps you get to your bombs quicker so I think the commander choice here is an excellent one. His protection from white and black will also stonewall early aggro in those colors. So obviously I think this deck's first objective is to get Animar out ASAP. However, Animar is not invincible (although close) and he can also be countered and he is only one card (albiet one that you always have access to). So again, we need to find ways to increase early game pressure and/or protection. Below are a list of cards I'd suggest for each of those categories. I will not consider budget with my suggestions. Not all of my suggestions will be expensive tho. Although some of my suggestions are expensive cards, they will be the absolute best options for the things we are trying to improve. Also, you can always slowly acquire some of these cards over time. Even a $100 card can be acquired in 4 months without impacting your finances. You can set aside $25 bucks a month (or even every two weeks) and get a $100 card in 2-4 months. I will leave most of the swapping of cards up to you, but I will mention certain cards in your deck that I think should be directly swapped with one of my suggestions. Anyways, without further ado: my suggestions.
Gaea's Cradle – This card is expensive af (probably my most expensive suggestion) but it is a staple in a lot of commander decks. Animar is one of those decks. Animar thrives off casting creatures and Animar decks generally have lots of creatures on their board. The other ridiculously amazing thing about this card (aside from being able to tap for ABSURD amounts of mana) is that it is a land and thus doesn't consume a precious deck slot.
Ancient Tomb and Mana Crypt are monsters of acceleration and Tomb, like Gaea's Cradle, doesn't take up a deck slot. These two I wouldn't recommend as hard as Cradle and they do hurt you so I could see not including them without a certain amount of lifegain. Life doesn't matter that much in cEDH but in regular EDH life totals are usually quite important.
A fair amount of the one drop mana dorks. Your commander's colors will prevent you from being able to play Noble Hierarch , but you should definitely include Birds of Paradise and some combination of Elvish Mystic , Llanowar Elves , and Fyndhorn Elves . Sylvan Caryatid isn't a bad choice either. I persoanlly think Caryatid is better than Rattleclaw Mystic although I think the Rattleclaw is fine and probably shouldn't be cut. Many people believe artifacts are superior to mana dorks but this view isn't completely correct. Artifacts have two main strengths over dorks: they can tap the same turn you play them and they are (generally) harder to remove. In every other way however (barring specific strategies), mana dorks are better. They can chump block hits that would kill you, swing for damage, can be recurred much more easily than artifacts, and can be used as fodder for cards like Fauna Shaman and Survival of the Fittest . You can't feed a 1 mana artifact to those cards and tutor up an Ulamog but mana dorks let you do this. This is also only speaking generally. In certain decks (ESPECIALLY Animar) the payoff for running them is even greater. Paying 1 mana for a mana dork makes Animar grow even stronger and lets him discount more expensive creatures even harder. With Animar on the field, dorks effectively provide 2 mana. They raise the discount and tap for mana themselves. Animar with 3 lands and 3 dorks can let you cast something for 9 mana on turn 4! If one of those lands was Gaea's Cradle , it would allow 12 mana on turn 4!! Other ramp I'd include would be Nature's Lore , Farseek , and Cultivate . Out of these 3 I just mentioned, I'd defintely cut Explosive Vegetation for one of these. Ramp cards that you have that I would absolutely NOT cut at all are Sol Ring , Arcane Signet , Chromatic Lantern , Kodama's Reach , Skyshroud Claim , and Commander's Sphere . These cards were great choices and I would keep all of them.
URG doesn't have the greatest removal options, but there are some suprisingly good choices. Also, the fact that you have access to blue means that you can run almighty counterspells. Counterspells are just awesome and they are often the only way to beat combo decks. Animar is a very creature/aggro based deck so I am not advocating that this should be a control deck by any means. I would only recommend 3 counters for this reason: Counterspell , Mana Drain , and maybe Disallow because of its versatility. I would NOT cut swan song or negate. These two cards are absolutlely amazing and were very good choices. You don't necessarily need to add all of these counters, but I'd definitely add at least 1-2 more. If you find that you don't want to add any (I'd try not to do this) then I would swap negate with Counterspell or Mana Drain . I run negate in most decks that can run it so, again, I wouldn't cut it unless you don't want to add other counters. Only then would I swap it out.
For removal, I'd recommend Reality Shift , Beast Within , and the dreaded Cyclonic Rift . Reality shift is one of the only good exile creature spells without access to white or black. Beast within will deal with any permanent and the beast it leaves means nothing to an Animar deck. Rift is a one sided INSTANT speed board wipe that can also double as temporary removal for any permanent other than lands. An Animar deck with a full board will pretty much win the game after a successful overloaded Rift. I would NOT cut Ulamog at all because he is freaking amazing and his exile two of anything ability is really nice, especially in URG. I'd also keep Balefire Dragon. He's a one sided creature board wipe. Also with the ramp upgrades he will be reliable to cast. I'd strongly recommend every single one of the three removal options I just mentioned. Steel Hellkite is also maybe good here too but I wouldn't necessarily include it. It can potentially cost 0 mana with Animar and is one-sided.
Upgrading Card Qualtiy
Let me first list all the cards here currently in your deck that I would cut. Then I'll suggest some better cards IMO. For creatures I would cut Ancestral Statue, Avatar of Slaughter (this card looks cool but is more of a fun chaos card then a reliable good card. Its 8 mana and can often backfire on you and get you killed. An 8 mana card shouldn't do this), Bearer of the Heavens , Eldrazi Mimic , Endless One , Forgotten Ancient , Hooded Hydra , Pathrazer of Ulamog , and Tromokratis (he is powerful comapered to some of my other cut suggestions, but as you'll see below, there are superior creatures that cost less mana). Assuming you take any of my suggestions, make sure that if you cut one of these creatures you replace it with a creature I suggested. You have 35 creatures in this deck which is actually a very good number for Animar so you should still try to maintain the 35 creature count.
I like your land base but you need at least 35 lands (maaaaybe 34 if you add a bunch more ramp). Your base and colored mana access is good so I will recommend utility lands here. Also don't forget about Gaea's cradle that I mentioned earlier. Anyway, consider Yavimaya Hollow , Alchemist's Refuge , Oran-Rief, the Vastwood , and Kessig Wolf Run . Hollow protects your creatures, refuge lets you play any nonland card at instant speed (many applications for this!), Vastwood buffs your board and provides synergy with the +1/+1 counter cards, and wolf run will let Animar 1 or 2 shot people for lethal commander damage. Again, here I wouldn't cut any of the lands you currently have. You just need to add a couple more lands, that's all.
Noncreature, nonland cuts I'd make would be Death's Presence (overcosted for what it does and can be played around), Forced Adaptation (slow and gives card disadvantage if the creature its on is killed) Frontier Siege (not actually a bad card but its only worth it if you have lots of fliers and not too great at ramp since its 4 mana), Rage Reflection (this card really isn't bad but I think its kinda expensive at 6 mana and slow), Explosive Vegetation (mentioned this earlier), Guided Passage (your opponnents get to see your entire deck which is BAD and you can't assume they will ever get you anything good unless both of you have a much more dangerous mutual enemy. Its also worthless in 1v1), and See the Unwritten (just severely overcosted and not very good).
Here are my suggestions finally. Note that I won't re-mention the earlier suggestions from my previous sections (ramp and removal), but don't forget those.
Creatures I'd consider including would be Kozilek, Butcher of Truth (I would directly swap this with pathrazer. It is much more powerful, has better stats, a better annhilator AND costs less mana. Plus it draws you cards. Directly making this particular swap will also slightly lower your average CMC), Consecrated Sphinx (I'd directly swap this for tromokratis. It will lower average CMC, and although it's smaller than tromo, its flying will allow it to deal damage more often than tromo. The main reason this card is busted is its draw ability. Even having this live for only two turns will win you the game by burying your opponents in card advantage), Kalonian Hydra (I'd directly replace this with Hooded Hydra as he grows WAAAY faster and buffs other creatures aside from himself provided they also have +1/+1 counters. In combination with Oran-rief, he can start buffing creatures that normally wouldn't have +1/+1 counters on them. Finally he's gross with Animar), Etali, Primal Storm , and Nezahal, Primal Tide (another big card advantage engine and can be infuriating to try to kill). Other good support creatures that help with smoothing your draws, providing various support, and/or removing things would be Keranos, God of Storms , Thassa, God of the Sea , Nylea, God of the Hunt , Genesis (he provides never ending creature recursion and is VERY difficult to stop from the graveyard much like anger, brawn, and wonder), Fauna Shaman (survival of the fittest's lesser creature cousin. Survival and fauna shaman are absolute musts in Animar because they work so well as tutors and Animar decks have high creature densities. They also combo disgustingly with genesis, anger, wonder, and brawn), and finally Eternal Witness . Eternal witness NEEDS a place in this deck. It should be in any deck with green and it is also one of the top 7 most played cards in the whole format according to EDHREC. It also is disgusting with genesis. Also note that Thassa, Keranos, Nylea, and Nezahal all resist board wipes and allow you to retain some semblance of a board state following a boardwipe. Keranos and Nezahal also draw you cards so they even help with the rebuilding after a wipe.
Noncreature stuff to consider would be Survival of the Fittest (already explained why it should be included hopefully. It's a fauna shaman that can be activated any number of times per turn instead of only once and is more difficult to remove), Seasons Past (just an insane value card that goes back in your deck and can even get difficult to recur cards like instants and sorceries), Doubling Season (high $$ card but it works really well in your deck with all the +1/+1 counters) Rhystic Study (this even sees play in cEDH like mystic remora. People will not often pay the 1 mana. If they do, they have taxed themselves. Either you draw more cards or tax your opponent's spells. It's a win/win. Also, unlike remora, it stops all types of spells and doesn't require a cumulative upkeep. Make no mistake however, remora is still AMAZING). My last and final suggestions are tutors. Tutors are so important in commander. Too important too ignore. You aren't running any that I can see. URG doesn't have the greatest tutor options but they have some really good ones. I already mentioned fauna shaman and survival of the fittest. Others I'd try hard to slot in include Green Sun's Zenith , Finale of Devastation , Mystical Tutor , and Worldly Tutor .
Anyway, I hope I have been helpful. I tried to mention the cards that I think should absolutely find a way into the deck, but also keep in mind that not all of my suggestions are a must. Again, we just want to lower the average CMC, increase ramp and removal, and upgrade card quality, (like hooded hydra >> kalonian hydra). Good luck and overall a very cool deck! You have my upvote good sir.
2 months ago
You have some great ramp pieces already, but you might benefit from more 1-2cmc ramp. For example, if you play a Heart Warden on turn 2, you'll be able to play a Frontier Siege on turn 3, then Atarka on turn 4! Here are some others you might consider: Incubation Druid , Dawn's Reflection , Leafkin Druid , Market Festival , Scorned Villager Flip