Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
Legendary Creature — Praetor
Whenever you tap a land for mana, add one mana to your mana pool of any type that land produced.
Whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, that land doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
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Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger occurrence in decks from the last year
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Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger Discussion
3 weeks ago
Doombeard1984, agreed. My plan initially was to replace the original Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger already in the deck with the new instance but upon second glance I don't think that move would be wise. Instead i'm going to replace Inexorable Tide. That card i've never felt was particularly strong, as the pay off always felt a bit minimal once it hit the board. For it to really become useful, I needed a full grip of cards, infect counters on players and/or permanents with counters already on the board in the first place.
The new unofficial card I plan on including functions somewhat similarly to Inexorable Tide, in the sense that it contributes to proliferation triggers - but it does so much more. Like I said before, it's an excellent target for Tainted Strike, increases the lethality of Infect overall, and increases the value of all counters on permanents I control. The only downside is that i'm increasing the average CMC of the deck. But that's my plan - what're your thoughts?
3 weeks ago
Hey Doombeard1984, yes i've seen the confirmed non-official spoiler that is the uh...previously mentioned card. I don't want to say it's name because long story short - I made a forums post about it and an admin locked the thread because the card wasn't an official spoiler. The verbiage used by the admin was as follows:
Per TappedOut's policy that there is to be no discussion of cards that have not been officially spoiled--in this case, the card was allegedly inadvertently spoiled because the printer accidently slipped it into Commander Legends. Pursuant to this policy, I am going to lock this thread--I will try to remember to reopen it if this gets spoiled as a real card (if I do not, just leave a note on my wall to remind me).
As for what do I think about the card? It's weaker than the original Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger but gears itself more toward an Infect playstyle as it doubles the "damage" output from infect creatures, and doubles every proliferation on the stack giving some insane value - doubling +1/+1 and fading counters as well. Additionally that which shall not be named becomes instantly lethal once it gains infect ala Tainted Strike. The added bonus of potentially denying opponents counters is also nice. Again, it's definitely not as disruptive and overall powerful as the original, but with it's more narrow focus can be really devastating under the right conditions. I definitely plan on getting a copy of said card when it's officially available for purchase. From my understanding it's one Preator "invader" per plane. It seems that Phyrexia has cast a very wide net and is carefully laying out it's plans. Papa Yawgmoth would be proud, I sure am! What're your thoughts on the card that shall not be named?
4 weeks ago
Your compared creatures are not good examples. Both the Apex Devastator and Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger provide value with their ETB trigger or static ability as soon as they get put into play. They impact the game as they get played. The chronologist provides no advantage at all when you put into play.
I ran a playset of these in a deck for quite a while before finally taking them out. The sorcery speed, no immediate value and how often they get primaried off the table without ever doing anything. I replaced them with card advantage.
There are multiple problems with the card that make it unpopular for people to use it. One, it's slow and fragile to reach the level 7 extra turn goal and needs heavy island investment. The fact it dies to removal may not seem important to you, but it is a fact it does die to removal and opposing decks are more likely to have more sources of creature removal than other types of removal which makes it less popular. And it will get primaried by people who know what it does.
Another reason is that it complicates a game tremendously to keep track of in multiplayer magic. I am sure many people would skip it just because of having to keep track of it. There are many other uncomplicated ways to time walk for yourself or against your opponents. I have had opponents kill it just because they got annoyed at the card screwing with the turn sequence of a game.
And it sucks as a combo piece, which it really is not. So combo players won't use it when deckbuilding for extra turns, casual players won't use it for being a hassle to track, and non-mono blue players will skip it for the mana investment.
Lastly, but an important note, if you are in a 1 vs 1 situation and your opponent has somehow copied the Lighthouse Chronologist and leveled it to 7 as well then it no longer impacts the game as an extra turn source. You both will play the rest of the game in alternating extra turns until one of the cards is removed.
4 weeks ago
Yeah, I agree that just casting him with no protection or way to turbo his way through the levels is a terrible idea. But he's a lot better then a lot of big threats that put a target to your back for the same investment, like Apex Devastator, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, etc. He really is perfect for Derevi though, so other generals might have a much harder time getting him to his final levels.
1 month ago
You're thinking of Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger like Winter Orb. Vorinclex uses an activated ability and an effect like winter orb uses a static ability. Note the inclusion or exclusion of a trigger word. Polaris winter orb and Stasis are definitely more broken than vorinclex
1 month ago
Chandra585 is correct, but to clarify:
A triggered ability like the one on Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger can only trigger while the card is on the battlefield and the triggering condition occurs. So in order for Vorinclex to affect a land, it has to be on the battlefield when the land is tapped, and the land has to be tapped for mana. If a land was tapped while Vorinclex was not on the battlefield, or a land is tapped for a reason other than to produce mana, it will be unaffected.
603.1. Triggered abilities have a trigger condition and an effect. They are written as “[When/Whenever/At] [trigger condition or event], [effect]. [Instructions (if any).]”
603.2. Whenever a game event or game state matches a triggered ability’s trigger event, that ability automatically triggers. The ability doesn’t do anything at this point.
603.2f If a triggered ability’s trigger condition is met, but the object with that triggered ability is at no time visible to all players, the ability does not trigger.
603.3. Once an ability has triggered, its controller puts it on the stack as an object that’s not a card the next time a player would receive priority. See rule 117, “Timing and Priority.” The ability becomes the topmost object on the stack. It has the text of the ability that created it, and no other characteristics. It remains on the stack until it’s countered, it resolves, a rule causes it to be removed from the stack, or an effect moves it elsewhere.
1 month ago
In the future, please use the rules Q&A section of the site if you have questions about rules, cards, or card interactions. That section has some added functionalities, including the ability to “mark as answer” a post to indicate your question has been resolved.
I have gone ahead and moved the post for you.
It also helps if you link cards with double brackets, as so:
[[Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger]]
Also, as a note, you initially posted this in the Standard section - in case there is any confusion, Vorinclex is not Standard-legal.
1 month ago
abby315, Thanks! All of those suggestions look great but A few of those cards are a bit out of my prices range lol. I'll try to work the deck aorund that with less countermagic and more cards to set that up. What do you think of a wincon thats Defense of the Heart and Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur? Should I cut the most of the less useful answers and go more just around the transmute cards?