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Landfall Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, you may gain control of target creature for as long as you control Roil Elemental.
Gidgetimer on Does Roil Elemental's ability still …
6 days ago
Roil Elemental's ability only checks that the targeted permanent is a creature upon targeting and upon resolution. If it stops being a creature later the control changing effect will not end.
mathemagic314 on Does Roil Elemental's ability still …
1 week ago
The situation: I controlled Will Kenrith equipped with Luxior, Giada's Gift. My opponent controlled Roil Elemental, and played a land to gain control of him. When I re-equip the equipment, does the Roil Elemental's ability cease to give him control of it, as it only applies to creatures, and like an aura's static effect, its ability would fall off? Or would he maintain control because the Roil only cares about it being a creature at the time of target?
Corrus555 on Green/blue sea monsters copy
6 months ago
Alright let's get dorky. So you want more consistent game and early game. I like your mana ramp and some big boys, I just feel you don't have the early game, you wait for your own board state to get big but only have counter spells to remove threats.
My first list of cards I think can be removed for either lower cost cards or the effects arnt good enough. Urban Evolution to much mana for 3 card draw, the extra land drop isnt enough to justify the mana cost. Seer's Sundial is decent but the recuring cost will slow you down. But with a card like Horn of Greed ,everyone getst the card draw but you should be hitting a land drop every turn realistically. Horn of Greed isnt good with cards that put them onto the battlefield, but playing additional lands will trigger it multiple times for you, free effect for doing what your commander does. it will pay for itself in two turns. Acidic Slime its just slow,I like this better than itWickerbough Elder. Reclamation Sage is better and often the land doesnt matter unless its super competative. or Beast Within will help you with the land removal. meh Stumpsquall Hydra do you really need your CMDR bigger?? slow Sporemound Elder Deep-Fiend meh? like any combos or anything with this? Sharktocrab its cool, but you can only do the effect once, and you dont care about counters, but i see its good for the octopus creature type. Stormtide Leviathan often shoots people in their own foot if you dont have the bottom requirement on your creatures.
lands I dislike,Vivid Creek Vivid Grove tapped and only good for two turns? lands I like are Evolving Wilds Simic Growth Chamber Thornwood Falls Molimo, Maro-Sorcerer better version below. Below link are slow fetches if money is a concern, but you can run them outside your color because they dont have the mana symbol, to bad you can't run other bounce lands. https://www.mtglands.com/main-slowfetches.html https://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/bounce-lands-outside-commanders-color-identity/
Decent cards to replace with Hydra Broodmaster. Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar If you go graveyard recursion consistently she isn't bad Titania, Protector of Argoth if youre using fetches and such. If you do graveyardWorld Shaper The Mending of Dominaria Springbloom Druid early blocker,Harrow Crop Rotation crop R triggers your commander and only costs one. for any land. Zendikar's Roil this doesnt get removed by board clears and makes bigger than 1/1 spores.
Skyshroud Claim any forests. if you do dual shock lands. Fabled Passage if you have the $$$. Myriad Landscape if no $$$. Slippery Karst its good with graveyard synergy but often its cycled unless you need it the first few turns to get to land searches like Cultivate
The best card you should get Azusa, Lost but Seeking Roil Elemental Rapid Hybridization one cost removal of commander worth it. Tatyova, Benthic Druid you need cards that do similar effects as your commander so they cant just shut your deck down with one removal of your CMDR.
Tutor for your big guysFierce Empath This will pay for itslef in one turn Lotus Cobra Good long game card in my opinion that can be used for sac outlet and mana sink to pay into Tireless Tracker
Lands I like Terrain Generator Temple of the False God Hinterland Harbor cheaper than dual shocks, Thats Breeding Pool this is a dual shock land.
Late game cards that are VeRy NiCe but extra Praetor's Counsel Tooth and Nail
To battlefieldWood Elves Farhaven Elf and to hand Sylvan Ranger Ulvenwald Hydra these early game guys get you lands and can chump block, which means you block them with anything big they throw at you, assuming it doesn't have trample
Plenty of more expensive fixes but this is a good start, Let me know if you got some $$$ so I can recommend that. Most these cards should be under 10$ ish.
_Delta_ on Simic Lands
6 months ago
Glad to be of help! It was late and I realized after I suggested still a few things you had already included but by a later point couldn't go back to edit them. I admit I never got into asking some questions perhaps on the exact power level or anything like that but I get why you might not wish to add some of these. I use all the ones named regarding that self-mill strategy (Laboratory Maniac etc) in a Kruphix, God of Horizons deck I have which is capable of some explosive plays when I start generating ridiculous amounts of mana and or cast something like Omniscience with ways to draw a crazy amount of cards. But it also plays a bunch of big creatures like the Eldrazi if I want to win in a more straightforward, combat-focused way. I get the appeal of wanting to build up a big boardstate, and Simic colours are great for that.
I'll also just say that I started Magic back in approx 2013 and was the colour pair I fell in love with for deckbuilding and during my first little while with the game me and some friends played at a pretty casual level too. In fact, before I even knew much of anything about all the various formats, I played a Simic deck which was like 80 cards filled with stuff like an Arcanis the Omnipotent with multiple ways to untap it and some other things with useful activated abilities, a playset of Roil Elementals which I protected with counterspells and Archetype of Endurance (they were fun to use alongside Explosive Vegetation and similar effects), Lifeblood Hydra, Horizon Chimera were others, and finally some goodies like Prophet of Kruphix (rip its commander banning) and later additions like Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger.
Some of this became a Vorel of the Hull Clade commander deck for a while, but I still really always liked the theme of lands early on which is why I made a Lord Windgrace deck and now most recently an Omnath, Locus of Creation deck.
And having a lot of lands can be made to work, it's for one thing unfortunate that many of the cards in this theme which allow you to play extra lands from hand or graveyard are so costly even despite some reprints so there were a lot of ideas I skipped suggesting. I still think you should keep an eye out for Ramunap Excavator if you have a good chance to acquire one because you do have a significant number of lands which either can be sacrificed, cycled, or in some way become a creature and at some point die, so having another way to earn a few more back could be useful outside of World Shaper, Splendid Reclamation, and The Mending of Dominaria which I see is nonetheless your general gameplan.
Some of my decks which can be seen on my profile are complete / nearly fully owned, but yet others I build them how I want them to be eventually a little later and I definitely get wanting to make choices that are budget friendly with myself still as a student. I have for one thing been smart or simply gotten lucky and picked up a lot of cards from buying/trades when they were either cheap / reprinted over the years which has made a few of my decks creep up in price now (my best example of this was acquiring a Sliver Queen for $100 CAD worth of trades (approx $76 US) like five years ago. Anyway, if I do think of more stuff which could be of use here I'll let you know btw!
Emberalus on Child of Alara
9 months ago
- Sol Ring
- Goblin Engineer (It does not really synergize with the combo, it was in to find Zuran Orb but I kind of have enough ways to find it and not enough artifacts to sacrifice.)
- Roil Elemental (It was a cute card but I had to cut one more card for some more consistency and with the amount of tutors I play generally I will always rather have Tatyova or Gitrog Monster which are both tutorable by Bring to Light.)
- Pact of Negation (Pact of Negation is kind of an expensive card and I think I like Pyroblast more, it's mainly to combat counterspells on the second sunrise anyway and Pyroblast has some added utility to it which I think makes it better.)
- Mana Vault
- Overgrown Tomb (Decided I want to run just 3 shock lands, this one might get back into the deck but I opted for others first.)
- Mox Diamond
- Mana Crypt
- Krark-Clan Ironworks (Decided to get rid of the KCI saccing mana rocks before second sunrise plan, it was too convoluted and I want to go for a more land centric deck.)
- Valakut Exploration (This was also one of my other win conditions, and I liked Roil Elemental first above this but decided to cut both.)
- Izzet Chronarch (Got replaced by Timeless Witness.)
- Krosan Wayfarer (Has some early game utility while still being excellend in the Combo.)
- Cosmic Intervention (I somehow overlooked this card but I am really excited to add this as an early game play for value.)
- Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath (Uro is already an insane card, it sacrifices itself which is great, it's basically a recurrable Explore with the added bonus of sometimes being a powerful body, I think it will work excellend in the deck.)
- Explore (Both replace my mana rocks for some early mana ramp.)
- Breeding Pool
- Temple Garden
- Hallowed Fountain
- Timeless Witness
- Unbridled Growth (Fixes mana and sacrifices for a card, the other candidate was chromatic star which would also be good but I think Unbridled will have more value as you don't need to sacrifice it to gain it's fixing effect.)
I decided to cut my mana rocks that don't provide a color except for when they have a way to sacrifice themself which also made me cut my KCI from the deck.
Other Ideas: + Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle + Vesuva + Prismatic Omen
plakjekaas on Omnath: Rage or Roil?
10 months ago
Omnath, Locus of Rage is the overt, "look at me being dangerous" commander.
Omnath, Locus of the Roil is a value engine that adds blue to your color identity. Mystic Sanctuary loops, tricksy stuff like Avenger of Zendikar with Mystic Reflection, loops with Walking Atlas and Retreat to Coralhelm, maybe Roil Elemental, blue really adds a lot to landfall decks that Gruul just can't provide. Or you could be Oneshotting people with Sylvan Awakening, turning 25 lands into elementals, playing your commander and sending the ETB trigger to someone's face.
Gruul and Temur Omnath just will not result in the same decks, the same way that the average OG Omnath, Locus of Mana deck won't look much like the Gruul Omnath deck. Just try and see if the blue additions fit your playstyle, and save a decklists for the Gruul build, in case it doesn't.
I will say that Omnath, Locus of Rage does belong in the 99 of Omnath, Locus of the Roil, because Risen Reef is one hell of an elemental.
ju009x on Yarok, who let the lands out?!
1 year ago
I did consider them, my only problem is the manacost. While playing the deck, I found cutting the bigger cards for carddraw or tutors gave me a chance to find the more important cards; like Scute Swarm. My second reason is political, cards like Baleful Strix don't get the attention of other players, while Roil Elemental will. With this deck I try to controle the game and fly under the radar, if I don't have any big threats in my hand.
Then again, there is an argument to be made to add them, as I don't realy have any good reanimator cards appart from Sire of Stagnation.
Necrosis24 on Reap the tides - upgraded
1 year ago
Seems like you got the main landfall cards. Only other stapley landfall creatures I’d reccomend would be Scute Swarm, Roil Elemental, Guardian of Tazeem, Tireless Provisioner.
Similarily there are Yedora, Grave Gardener, Ashaya, Soul of the Wild, Cosima, God of the Voyage Flip, Blackblade Reforged, and World Shaper.
If you want to bounce some lands you can look into using some moonfolk like Meloku the Clouded Mirror which can be paired with Patron of the Moon, Azusa, Lost but Seeking, and Dryad of the Ilysian Grove
On a separate note Greater Good might be worth condisering you have some pretty high powered creatures. It pairs well with Splendid Reclamation and World Shaper which can lead to an explosive turn with your landfall cards in play.
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