Growth Spiral

Instant

Draw a card. You may put a land from your hand onto the battlefield.

Discussion (47)

0rc on Relentless Progress (Ezuri, Claw)

3 weeks ago

I really like this. I’ve always wanted to build Ezuri. I’d recommend Song of the Dryads , over Frogify . The card compliments Imprisoned in the Moon with difficult-to-shake, Oko-esque’removal. Castle Garenbrig would provide good acceleration here. Growing Rites of Itlimoc  ^Flip as well (or Cradle :)). It also replaces itself. Simic does well with a little bit of land acceleration. Try Growth Spiral and Bond. They provide great utility and land acceleration. It’s tough to make spots for these, but they are really quite good (and satisfying to play). Always include Kiora's Follower in Simic! It’s an amazing utility card. Great deck. I bet it’s fun to play.

MagicMarc on Turbo Frog Mk IV

1 month ago

Hello, I saw your post about the deck and wanted to make a couple of suggestions.

You have some cards I think are of dubious value in your deck and would like to suggest removing them. You should delete the following cards; Thought Scour This card adds nothing to this deck's game plan. Spore Frog . Cut these and replace them with Empty the Warrens . Empty the Warrens can make blockers, increases your storm count, and can storm for even more goblins.

I also feel I have to make the obligatory mention about some of the better turbo fog and storm creatures you could replace them with; Augur of Bolas , Guttersnipe , Sprite Dragon , Snapcaster Mage and Electrostatic Field . If you really need to have a creature, make it a 4 of any of the creatures I just mentioned. But dump the frogs. If you really think fog effects are your answer then cut them for Haze of Pollen . Haze at least can raise storm counts or be cycled when the battlefield does not have serious threats in play. And the frogs would be gone.

Cut Nature's Spiral . It is too narrow and does not advance your win condition. I am also not happy with your enchantments either. I think I see your game plan using them but they hurt your odds of Storming off on your opponent and really only hurt yourself by slowing down your deck. I would cut Gaseous Form for sure. And suggest cutting Abundant Growth . I would replace these with copies of Echoing Truth and Growth Spiral . Both of these cards do the same thing those cards do in the short run, then they raise your storm counts and help win the game in the long run.

Your deck is missing two things that help turbo decks and burn/storm decks. Card advantage and mana rituals. Consider these cards when thinking about what to replace your cuts with or consider making room for some of them; Desperate Ritual , Pyretic Ritual , or Manamorphose . If you plan to keep Abundant Growth in your deck then these rituals have lesser value but I would consider dumping the growth for a playset of one of these or more depending on your card count. They up your storm count and provide the mana to cast more cards in the same turn adding even more to your storm counts.

For card advantage, consider making room for the cards like these; Opt , Sleight of Hand , Serum Visions , Pieces of the Puzzle , Behold the Multiverse , Brainstorm or Frantic Search . Some of these are cheap to cast with a small return but will really accelerate the deck and raise your counts. The bigger cost ones have bigger payoffs for card advantage but will make slower turns. Some other cards to consider are Browbeat , Risk Factor and the blue jump-start card Chemister's Insight . You don't see Risk Factor or Chemister's Insight in competitive decks as much but they are both good alternatives that can keep providing advantage or damage. I would consider adding 4-8 of some of these cards to give you card advantage and help refill your hand for bigger storms.

Two more suggestions that may have a place in the deck; Silundi Vision  ^Flip can replace a generic island while letting you dig pretty deep to find one of your win conditions. You may even consider adjusting the mana base to make room for maybe even 2 of these.

Consider adding Past in Flames to the deck. This card really increases the chances of a win especially during long games by letting you replay all of your burn spells from the yard. It needs a big mana investment but it can finish a game depending on the state of your graveyard. I would seriously consider replacing two copies of Call to Mind and/or Nature's Spiral with a total of 2 copies of Past in Flames . I would keep it at two copies, it does need a big mana state to really work out for you and going to 3 or 4 copies will hurt the deck instead of help it.

Lastly, consider going to 4 copies of the good cards you already have in the deck. You should raise the counts of Lightning Bolt and Shock to 4 each for sure. I would also consider dropping copies of Fog to raise your counts of Moment's Peace . Generally, if you do need to fog the field it will happen later in the game so the mana cost is not as big a burden and the flashback makes them awesome.

makronic on Elementalary

1 month ago

General Comments

I think you need to cut a lot of stuff... You'll need 40+ lands for a landfall deck I think. You've got so many cards that allow you to play additional lands. You might not have that many lands to get the value out of those cards, even if you could play lands from GY.

I think in the deck, there's 3 kinds of cards to fit the theme of what you're doing:

1. Small/medium stuff which both ramps and boosts landfall at the same time like Oracle of Mul Daya
2. Then it's big powerful board state changing stuff that your general will cheat from GY, like Roil Elemental
3. Utility for answers to opponent like Ingot Chewer and Demonic Tutor to control the board

Once you have the cards for (1), I think you'll be pretty unstoppable. You'll have the mana base to just throw things out. You shouldn't need to worry about card draw because your general can play off the GY. But, I don't think you have enough cards that puts things into GY. If you have a full GY, your general becomes basically tutor any card and cast it for 5 mana, which is ridiculously cheap. Mayael the Anima 's ability, in comparison, costs 6, and you only get to choose from top 5 random cards. I think exploiting the general's ability is the most powerful thing in this deck, but you can't do it without a graveyard.

I think cards that don't fit that theme you've got going should be cut, even if they're powerful cards, because they clunk up your engine. Except Vigor . Bloody Vigor is the best.

Cards I think you want:

Eternal Witness - this card combos with so much, espectially if you got a way to recur it back. It returns any card from graveyard to hand, not just creatures. Great for searching for answers in your GY which aren't elementals.

Hermit Druid - Populates your GY, and nets you a land in hand. Once it's on the board, for 1 mana, you're guaranteed a basic land, and lots of stuff in your GY. It's crazy good utility. But be careful, because 5 colour means you won't have that much room for basics.

Mana Drain - The much better counterspell

Shriekmaw - Does what your Ingot Chewer and Wispmare can do, but to non-black creatures. Is elemental, so can be reused for general. Completes your board control for artifacts, enchantments, and creatures.

Cards I think you might not want:

Avenger of Zendikar - good card, but not amazing value for money IMO. For 7 mana, I think it needs to be a game changer. I know you wanna build +1+1 counters into it, but I think there's just not enough cards for that engine, and you already have too many cards.

Animar, Soul of Elements - If you have your general out, animar doesn't really do much... If you get Animar out early, it doesn't help you cast your general, and those counters will take time to build up, by which time you might as well use your general.

Kozilek, the Great Distortion - a 10 mana card that you can't cheat out with your general?

Yarok, the Desecrated - you don't really have that many ETB effects for this to be worthwhile imo.

Sylvan Awakening - why for?

Vampiric Tutor - always good to have a tutor... but it might get in the way since this tutors to the top of your library rather than your hand. So it just interferes with your "play lands off topdeck" cards, which you have a few, and then everyone also gets to see what you've tutored.

Nissa, Vital Force - eh...

Path of Discovery - pretty underwhelming... requires a creature to come down, then you might either get a land in hand, or a +1/1 counter to the creature that just came down. So only 40% of the time or so you'll actually get a land in hand. For 4 mana, you have Oracle of Mul Daya, which is just much better.

Exploration - my experience with exploration is that it peters out quickly. If you play it early, you don't have an engine yet, and you run out of land in a turn or 2. If you play it late, it's a little underwhelming. Rather pay more mana for Mina and Denn, Wildborn , Courser of Kruphix or Oracle of Mul Daya which both sources you lands and let you play them. You also have Muldrotha, the Gravetide , The Gitrog Monster , and Zimone, Quandrix Prodigy which also serves similar functions but have other uses.

Growth Spiral - arguably worse than Exploration because it's single use. Effectively does the same thing as farseek because it replaces itself with a card draw, and you get a land on the battlefield in addition to your normal turn land. But worse than farseek because you can't tutor for the card you're drawing, and you need to have 2 lands in hand for it to be worthwhile. Also needs 2 specific coloured mana to play, which you might not have early game in a 5 colour deck.

Icon of Ancestry - costs 3 to use, and needs to tap. You're much better off having something that puts things in graveyard instead because you general only costs 5, and puts it on the battlefield. And you're restricted to elemental cards, which is likely 1/3 or less of your deck. You only get to top deck 3, so it's unreliable and mana inefficient.

Dragonmaster Outcast - it's a strong card, but if you're going to cut something, cut the cards that don't synergize. It's not an elemental, it doesn't put stuff in graveyard, it isn't an answer to something an opponent plays, it doesn't put land on the board or have landfall.

Acidic Slime - I love acidic slime, but it's not elemental and becomes single use. Might as well get a Reclamation Sage instead. Costs 2 less.

Saccox on Budget Simic Counters

2 months ago

Hi xXLordXx, Elusive Krasis and Growth Spiral ?

Mtg_Mega_Nerds on Tanazir Quandrix EDH

2 months ago

Looks pretty good honestly, so I only have a couple of suggestions. Oran-Rief, the Vastwood and Llanowar Reborn are a good way to get counters on creatures for free. Add a couple of land ramp cards of your choice: Rampant Growth , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Explore , Growth Spiral . Put Biogenic Ooze in the main board. Hope that helps.

Epicurus on Splendid Reclamation + The World Tree

2 months ago

Your topdecking/self-mill(ish) strategy is probably the right move, but just from an outside perspective it seems like Elvish Reclaimer would be useful here.

Other possibilities as I see it:

• Mission Briefing

• World Shaper

• Harrow

• Growth Spiral

• Epiphany at the Drownyard

• Perpetual Timepiece

• Crawling Sensation

And then some cycling lands.

Sorry, don't know if any of this is at all helpful. Just liked the idea a lot and my mind went into build mode.

Omniscience_is_life on I'm new and on a …

2 months ago

and will be the cheapest colors to play, as they have so many amazing options that some of the good ones that are slightly overshadowed stay pretty budget.

You can have a pretty decent cheap ramp package in Simic, with cards like Rampant Growth , Cultivate , Talisman of Curiosity , Growth Spiral , etc. plus card draw in the form of Beast Whisperer , Secrets of the Golden City , Windrider Wizard , et al. So that just makes everything easier, having a good baseline.

BUT, the MOST important thing you can take away from this--play the COMMANDER you want to play. Your commander is the card you will be casting in 99% of games, and as such you really want to love it. I would say take a half-hour or so scrolling through all these cheap legendary creatures (you can change the dollar amount of the cap I set, but for the reasons I said earlier your commander is definitely something worth investing a little into)... and just see what sticks out to you.

BiggRedd54 on Ramos Mutate

3 months ago

Greetings,

Your curve is too high. Cut down on some fours and add some twos and threes. Consider significant ramp improvement. Take out Crystals and use multi color ramp/card draw spells. Consider enchantments over artifacts except for a few. Growth Spiral , Urban Evolution , Journey to Eternity  ^Flip, and Manamorphose The mythos won’t play into your commander’s strategy.

Check out all the charms in magic history, most offer versatility on top of food for hungry Ramos. Boros Charm + Abzan Charm would be bangers here.

I like where you are going with this, but Ramos is a tank. Use it wisely.