Laboratory Maniac

Creature — Human Wizard

If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead.

Discussion (51)

Joe0 on Hulk Inc.

22 hours ago

Why run Alchemist's Refuge over Emergence Zone ? Am I missing something or does Emergence Zone allow easier access when going for Bloom Tender / Incubation Druid / Arbor Elf lines?

Also, you need an outlet like Thrasios, Triton Hero on board to go off at instant speed (unless you have Alchemist's Refuge / Crop Rotation ), right?

I really like this list, but I've found that having Demonic Consultation and Laboratory Maniac in a similar-ish deck (the core is shuffle, minus the shuffle package, plus consult + incubation) lets me win at instant speed very safely (incubation line, Noxious Revival / Memory's Journey back Flash , and Flash in Laboratory Maniac , then I can pile over further interaction with Laboratory Maniac using Thrasios). And if I lose Thrasios, I can always go for a normal consult line, or the Spellseeker + Laboratory Maniac hulk pile for an extra B + draw.

Would swapping Alchemist's Refuge , Spellskite and Quicken / Finale of Devastation (infinite green + a single U makes a win with labman at instant speed) for Emergence Zone , Demonic Consultation / Tainted Pact and Laboratory Maniac make sense or does that break something?

Iceman76 on Tyrant Queen

1 day ago

Spinal_Remains: I imagine the line is to Dread Return targeting Eternal Witness . That lets you return Walking Ballista to your hand and cast it for a million.

Snax_n_staX: Would you be able to add a section/note on Tainted Pact ? It fits so well into both combo routes, and I want to make sure I'm not missing anything. It lets you find Food Chain while possibly exiling Eternal Scourge , is basically an A+B combo with Laboratory Maniac , and gives you a Flash Hulk pile of LabMan + Spellseeker if you want to avoid graveyard hate. Is there anything else?

evncrbch on The Heart of the Cards!

1 day ago

kpotrzuski - Yes, this is true. Going infinite like that doesn't actually open a lot of wincons in this list though. In addition, for personal preference and playgroup style I don't really plan to add anything like Laboratory Maniac to be able to use that combo to win. Thanks for pointing out the option though!

SynergyBuild on Who would you partner with ...

6 days ago

Realistically I'd partner it with Hermit Druid and go for an obvious OP cEDH deck with Druid in the CZ and 4 colors to abuse it.

Outside of that easy pick, there are a few other ones that would be hilarious, such as Laboratory Maniac and just run the Tainted Pact / Demonic Consultation win or perhaps a Notion Thief in the CZ and using basically a better Leovold deck.

I mean, those three would be oppressive to the point of banning, but just imagine having any of 100 other staple powerful creatures in there, Seedborn Muse would have a million combos, think running Winter Orb and Static Orb or even Stasis while you untap your permanents every player's turn holding up for countermagic even when you tapped out the turn before!

Or what about Narset, Parter of Veils and the wheel package from Notion Thief , or just add it to any current cEDH deck?

Zur the Enchanter now has access to green? Sylvan Library , mana dorks, etc?

Godo, Bandit Warlord now has all 5 colors and has the instant win in the CZ?

Urza, Lord High Artificer has access to 3 more colors? Fun!

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Point is, Atarka isn't close to reasonable in terms of the busted nature of this card.

Ziabo on Thousand-Year Kess ~Help Needed~

6 days ago

Jace_Nalaar you are absolutely awesome for this bro!

Now I do already have Increasing Vengeance in the deck. My meta usually runs 6-8 players and usually always blind. as for Consecrated Sphinx the last game I played I literally drew 20 cards before my next turn. (Thank God for Reliquary Tower )

I keep forgetting about Temple of the False God TBH I'm putting it in my buy list as we speak.

1. Creatures: I have never heard of Backdraft Hellkite will def sub out for Hypersonic Dragon or try to work both in somehow.

2. Instant/sorcs: Chain of Vapor Looks fun and could be interesting if they wanna copy. - With my larger play group Counterflux is needed to knock out the large or confusing stacks that are played to maintain order in a sense. - And you're probably right on the other recs (except Increasing Vengeance ). Thank you Jace_Nalaar

3. Artifacts: Nothing to change here for my personal playstyle

4. Narset, Parter of Veils Will be an amazing partner in this deck, but not in place of Liliana Vess . I will work her in though.

1. Decree of Pain is HEAVY but can't really afford Damnation but I would like a cheaper board wipe, only reason I run it is for the draw. - Cabal Ritual is on the buy list can't wait to put it in. Entomb is wanted just need an excuse to break down for it.
2. Narset's Reversal , Cabal Ritual , Dramatic Reversal , Isochron Scepter , Laboratory Maniac and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries are currently next in line for purchase

Jace_Nalaar please let me know what you think. Thank you

Goretast on Chulane, Collector of Combos [[Aluren]]

1 week ago

Looks pretty solid. I find myself slowly going away from Laboratory Maniac and to Walking Ballista to win because Labman is a dead draw too often. Faeburrow Elder is another bloom tender and goes great with all your untaps. Village Bell-Ringer is also amazing with your dorks and Chulane bouncing bell-ringer to go infinite. Earthcraft is also great to go off and goes infinite with just Shrieking Drake .

zweii on Zweii's Szadek, Lord of Secrets deck

1 week ago

Mindcrank , Painter's Servant , Drown in the Loch , Nexus of Fate (so they cant mill you) Muddle the Mixture , Narset, Parter of Veils , Crypt Incursion (exiles titans that reshuffle for them) Faerie Macabre

( Demonic Consultation + Laboratory Maniac )???

Leptys on Aluren Yarok

1 week ago

@MrDimir:

Gilded Drake is easily one of the best creatures in the deck and in competitive EDH metagames in general. Stealing generals which run away with the game like Gitrog, Zur, Urza, Thrasios and others is just too good to pass up on. Sometimes I even joke about the real general of this deck being anything your opponents are playing as you have all the tutors that fetch Drake, often even directly into play. Drake also is borked with Yarok contrary to popular belief, as you get to do a 3-way switch, stealing one creature and forcing opponents to swap between Drake and one other creature (you also choose each target as you control Drake when it enters play).

@Dragonalex1112:

You can play infinite mana outlet draw spells if you like. This Yarok list just emphasizes on putting most if not all of the required draw outlet cards into ETB-creature form, which can be tutored with the same creature tutors that fetch combo cards like Cloud of Faeries and Shrieking Drake . These ETB creatures also work as decent topdecks and get amplified by Yarok's extra triggers and bounce engines, allowing you to save deckslots by not really needing any X draw spells to go off consistently. One of the main appeals of Yarok lists arguably is precisely the fact that they don't require any "dedicated" outlet cards to win games, save for the occasional Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries which are just too good win cards to not include in many lists ( Demonic Consultation / Tainted Pact + Lab Man win lines are the meta right now in most stalled games where there are many stax pieces out and counterspells ready to fire).

@Proa21:

Lim-Dul's Vault is not included mainly due to personal preference; I like to use its slot to playtest other cards almost as a baseline. You can definitely run it in your deck, and that list would most likely be better for it.