Creature — Human Wizard
If you would draw a card while your library has no cards in it, you win the game instead.
|Have (2)||metalmagic ,|
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- Azami, Lady of Scrolls + Laboratory Maniac + Mind Over Matter
- Laboratory Maniac + Lore Weaver
- Curiosity + Laboratory Maniac + Psychosis Crawler
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Laboratory Maniac occurrence in decks from the last year
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Laboratory Maniac Discussion
18 hours ago
2 weeks ago
seshiro_of_the_orochi, unless I am mistaken, wouldn't you lose the game? If all you have are 99 lands, you'd mill yourself out and lose the game? And if you did have actually 90, there is no guarantee you'd win as you could entirely whiff and get 4 nonland cards super early, though yes admittedly the chances are relatively slim. Assume however you are able to get a very generous 35 lands into play. You'd be required to pay to return him to your hand, then pay to bring him back out. This loop costs you a total of mana each time you cycle Klaus. Even at the very generous 35 lands and the four you had to hardcast in the beginning you have 39 total mana production available at your disposal, bearing in mind that the to originally hardcast Klaus from the command zone was from the last turn, as you needed to attack with him this turn and thus your lands are now untapped. Regardless, you're looking at a blink/cycle/new-word loop costing you mana to merely draw 1 single card. On 39 mana, you're looking at not even 5 of these loops, as 5 successful loops would be 40 total mana and you're one short. Even then, you're looking at potentially drawing into mostly lands. Even if you are lucky and draw into four nonland cards, you can't even cast them as your mana potential has been exhausted. You would almost want to run a deck that uses something such as Laboratory Maniac or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries . Even then, you run the risk of milling one or both of them, not even drawing into them, or actually drawing them but having no mana left over to win the game with.
So on the contrary, I don't think it's broken at all. I actually think it's designed in such a way to be exploited by a secondary card to complete the combo with so that he CAN be broken.
Perhaps that could be the challenge? Make the card that would break Klaus? I'm about to go to bed and don't really have it in me to develop these shenanigans; I merely wanted to express what I saw at first-glance. Maybe I'm just too tired and am misunderstanding something here.
3 weeks ago
Cephalid Illusionist + Nomads en-Kor is a neat combo but its not my favorite since they doesn't really do anything for you besides when you put the two together. I'm also not a huge fan of Laboratory Maniac because he doesn't do anything on his own and we have better versions of his effect. Jace, Wielder of Mysteries is definitely still playable but Thassa's Oracle 's ETB trigger is just so reliable that you don't really need the redundancy IMO.
If your plan is to deck yourself and win with Thassa's Oracle, I'd highly recommend picking up a Mind Over Matter to combo with Kwain, Itinerant Meddler or Temple Bell . Its a heckin' powerful card and on the Reserved List, so I'd pick one up now before it spikes like a lot of Reserved List cards have been doing lately.
I also see you're running Hullbreacher and Smothering Tithe which pair excellently with cards like Prosperity , Minds Aglow , Skyscribing , Fascination and even Folio of Fancies . This is the primary combo I use in my own Kwain deck! You dump a bunch of mana into drawing everyone X cards and get 3 times X Treasure back to dump into the NEXT Draw X Cards spell so you can chain them together bigger and bigger. Then you can win with Thassa's Oracle , mill everyone out with Fascination or Folio of Fancies , or my personal favorite, just force the game into a Draw by drawing out everyone's decks simultaneously with a big Draw X or a huge Windfall . But even without comboing off, all the Draw X spells are far more useful on their own than Cephalid Illusionist and Nomads en-Kor .
Tidal Barracuda is also a fun group huggy for your opponent's that works like a Leyline of Anticipation for you as well but also keeps your opponents from interfering when you try to combo off on your turn.
Hope this helps! Check out my own decklist if you like! I focus a LOT on playing a neutral political game. Wizzardrix (Kwain, Itinerant Meddler)
1 month ago
Ok, first things first: The description made me "chmmm" through my nose. This is beautiful. It seems you're planning on giving love to everyone until they deckout? If so, Keening Stone might be a great addition. Another cool peaceful wincon is Approach of the Second Sun. Laboratory Maniac and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries are obvious if you wish to win that way.
Great deck nonetheless.
1 month ago
I would remove Cancel for Dovin's Veto, Crux of Fate for Torment of Hailfire, Diabolic Tutor for Beseech the Queen, Diabolic Edict for Go for the Throat, Personal Tutor for Lim-Dul's Vault, Laboratory Maniac for Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, Graceful Adept for Archon of Emeria, Blood Seeker for Judge's Familiar, Strionic Resonator for Isochron Scepter, Baleful Strix for Windfall, Nadier's Nightblade for Dramatic Reversal, and Revel in Riches for Basalt Monolith
1 month ago
Thank you very much!
I actually had considered Laboratory Maniac for a win con before Oracle was printed but decided not to since outside of finishing the game it does nothing. Oracle basically has the same problem. All my other win cons function as value outside of the win.
I actually never bounce Guardian Project. When I need to stop drawing cards, Kadena and Beast Whisperer bounce with no problem, but then I just destroy Project with Nantuko Vigilante. It’s the simplest way to get rid of it.
Either way I think the situation is niche enough to not need a contingency for it in the form of a wincon especially if it does nothing when I’m setting up. Besides it’s not like I’m running Demonic Consultation where I’d want Oracle as my primary win.
1 month ago
Grave-troll and splinterfright are great for different decks, but in this deck I can reanimate everything at once, and then these two die right away. Besides, I need Doom Whisperer's type of mill to find and activate Second Chance and I don't have enough removal for artifacts/ench.
Skull Prophet adds mana to get me Muldrotha, and then "mill two cards" is effectively the same thing as "draw two cards". This makes up for the huge mana boost and discard enabling of the apprentice.
Foster is a really good mill card, but Tormod is better.
Torgaar is great against life gain decks, but they aren't very common and Jarad is effective against all decks.
Azusa is good, but she won't let me play more cards from the graveyard and Kodama of the East Tree lets me put lands from my hand into play whenever I put anything into play. I need the lab maniac for the Zegana win condition.