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Sultai Charm Discussion
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
After playtesting Archmage's Charm feels bad, the mana cost is very hard to hit. It also feels like the deck doesn't apply enough pressure, often getting stuck with a few birds and faeries that you have to chump block with. You might consider Drown in the Loch for a replacement for Charm though it doesn't draw cards, or maybe Sultai Charm as it gives good filtering and mobility. I like the idea of Gurmag Angler or Hooting Mandrills to present a clock.
1 month ago
Cut. Now the Grace Period begins. Assuming what is stated to be true, these would be the final cuts still in the running:
Sultai Charm (I guess the Modes are alright?)
Ghastly Conscription (Maybe this isn't as bad as I thought...)
Villainous Wealth (How was I able to ignore this?)
Obscuring AEther (Another Morph Mana Support that can even Manifest Itself. Dang...)
Secret Plans (Yeah, give the Morphs, Megamorphs, & Manifests +0/+1 & flip them Face-Up for Card Advantage? BAM!)
1x Wilderness Reclamation (I dunno, I still like Seedborn Muse …)
Cabal Executioner (I, mean, we have effects that negate sacing enemy permanents now. Can't we have Destroy Target Creature"? Oh, wait, we have two in these colors, but "Destroy Target nonblack Creature" & Destroying one that's Power 3 of lower is lame. But how good is this guy?)
Eternal Witness (Wait, how the bloody hell is this lass here?!)
Qarsi Deceiver (A mana Dork for Morph Effects, but one said I should have enough anyway.)
Root Elemental (Playing a card for free is awesome; especially something REALLY good...)
Silent Specter (There are no Morph effects to forcibly make an opponent discard their whole hand. Might as well make due with a flier I guess...)
Temur War Shaman (Manifesting the Top Card? At least the Fight Mechanic is Optional...)
Thought Harvester (NANI?! An Eldrazi Mutilates my Upside Down Stuff?! I just hope I can mill everyone before I mill myself...)
Whisperwood Elemental (Manifesting at each of your End Steps is great. even Saccing them, even if you sac this guy just to have others die, at least we're getting more Manifestoes.)
Cloud Key (Sure, choosing Creatures would be prime here, but what about Enchantments? Artifacts? Instants? Sorceries? They're options as well.)
Cloudstone Curio (This is required to mill the crap of your opponents. But we've enough Draw Engines to the point where Words of Wind is mandatory; at least Thought Harvester doesn't care about card draw stuff though...)
1x Crystal Shard (Strictly WORSE than the Curio as it has a price, & only affects creatures.)
1x Dimir Signet (Is it worth adding in the Signets as well as the Talismans? I'll leave that to you all to decide...)
1x Golgari Signet (See Dimir Signet.)
1x Helm of Awakening (This is the only "Spells cost less to cast" card I could find, but it also benefits the opposition.)
Lightning Greaves (Maybe I should don these awesome greaves again. You agree?)
Scroll of Fate (What more do you want? A free Manifest, & you will always know it's a creature or not, WHY DID I CUT THIS?!)
1x Simic Signet (See Dimir Signet.)
Which deserve the final replacing's? I'm leaving this to you...
& I apologize for all this text; I just wanted to show what I do recommend, & otherwise.
2 months ago
I am getting the idea that I should bump Deadeye Navigator, as I don't have anything that combos with him nor do I plan to, but regardless it being in play points a huge target on my head. With that said, I can't think of anything else besides Ixidor that will flip a Morph for me if I need it in a pinch. Any suggestions are most welcome.
3 months ago
Hey thanks for the elaborate comment, multimedia! Yeah Brainstorm is a card you bring up that I really feel should be in not just because of early digs but because it lets you keep stuff when you wheel. And I agree, at least one thing that can get enchantments should probably be in there, I was thinking Sultai Charm or Beast Within .
I'm considering Dawn of the Dead as a sturdier card to fill the role of Kess, since it can get back the Magi and gives them haste AND they won't get exiled because you sac'd them so you can just keep doing that.
Also Signal the Clans is sweet, I did not know that card existed until just now, so thanks for that.
6 months ago
9 months ago
You may want to consider Angelic Renewal in this deck. The way it works with Evoke, you pay the Evoke cost, and by sacrificing Renewal, you get to keep the creature, as well as the ETB when returns to the battlefield. I've run the interaction in Pauper decks, and it's hilarious to do things like turn-2 Renewal, turn-3 Mulldrifter to draw 4 and get a 2/2 flier. You can do similar things by exiling the creature before it's sacrificed with Parallax Wave , Deadeye Navigator , Roon of the Hidden Realm , and Endless Sands . If you like that plan, I would include AEthersnipe and Walker of the Grove , too.
I'm also a little confused as to why you're not running Scapeshift in a Gates deck, especially one full of Landfall creatures. Other good land-fetch cards include Skyshroud Claim , Hunting Wilds , Ranger's Path , Wood Elves , Krosan Verge , Nature's Lore , and Karametra, God of Harvests , all of which fetch your Shocklands.
Path of Ancestry is fantastic in tribal decks, and it is an absolute staple in 5-color tribal decks.
The final thing I would do is include some looting effects and self mill that won't put your Gates in the yard, since your commander wants expensive Elementals to reanimate. Kiora, Master of the Depths and Mulch could be good on the mill side, and Faithless Looting , Frantic Search , Greater Good (You can sac Evoked elementals in response to the trigger! Value!), Sultai Charm , and Chart a Course are all good for looting. Also, Surveil can help to fill the yard, as well. Try Notion Rain and Price of Fame (Good for killing Commanders!).
As for cuts, I would lose Brighthearth Banneret (land ramp is just better most of the time), Fertilid (7-mana Explosive Vegetation is bad, even if it has recursion), Rubblehulk (no ability, so it'll just get chumped for days. Run Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar if you want the land-count effect), and Tyrant of Discord (too expensive for a random effect).
10 months ago
You might consider some cheap replacements: Vivid Creek , Vivid Marsh , Vivid Crag and Vivid Grove instead of Dismal Backwater , Jungle Hollow , Rugged Highlands and Swiftwater Cliffs for extra mana-fixing (which is needed in a 4-color deck). Also: Llanowar Wastes , Yavimaya Coast and Shivan Reef are cheap untapped lands. // You might consider Farseek , Sakura-Tribe Elder , Explosive Vegetation and Circuitous Route for further ramp. Farseek can grab Sunken Hollow , Smoldering Marsh or Cinder Glade , while Circuitous Route can search for Simic Guildgate , Izzet Guildgate and Golgari Guildgate . // You might run Fact or Fiction , Steam Augury and Ancient Excavation for early card draw and graveyard filler for delve cards, like Murderous Cut , Dig Through Time and Tasigur, the Golden Fang (they all got reprinted). Brainstorm and Painful Truths are also great draw spells. // Izzet Charm , Crosis's Charm and Sultai Charm are really versatile removing threats. They could replace Scour from Existence . // Zendikar Resurgent is a mana-doubler, which can fuel big Comet Storm , Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , Exsanguinate and Curse of the Swine . // Since you are playing expensive spells, Deep-Sea Kraken , Combustible Gearhulk , Avatar of Fury , Avatar of Woe , Primeval Protector , Sunbird's Invocation , Metallurgic Summonings are great ways to deal a lot of damage.
Sultai Charm occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%