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Legendary Creature — Sliver
: Put a 1/1 colorless Sliver creature token onto the battlefield.
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Sliver Queen Discussion
1 week ago
Sliver and budget in a commander deck? Boi! W
The First Sliver is an objectively cheaper and better option than Overlord as you effectively get free slivers for each sliver you cast and the $$$ price is far less.
Morophon, the Boundless is also a cheap $$$ card that is an absolute must in a 5-color tribal deck.
Sliver Hivelord is not what I would call a budget card.
Your infinite combo requires a lot of pieces, and it (even with a tutor commander) is not likely going to be succeed due to the nature of the format. The cards synergize well, but there are simply too many of them to have the combo be a reliable win condition.
I assume you are avoiding using Sliver Queen for the same reason I put duct tape on my wallet.
Look for more synergies besides infinite burn. There are a lot of slivers that boost power. You will want a back-up strategy of simply beating your opponent's to death if you can't find what you need fast enough.
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3 weeks ago
I would say the one off slivers that only give +1/+1 seem silly, you would want to make as many slivers as possible. Focus on giving them haste, trample, some other kind of evasion. Then something along the lines of Beastmaster Ascension . In that sense I think Sliver Queen would be a better commander for aggro while your current commander is more for combos. I could be completely wrong, but for sake of cutting cards, I would just focus on your most aggressive buffs and subtract the lesser survivability and combo pieces in terms of slivers.
3 weeks ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Nice $850+ budget, but the manabase doesn't look like you have this high of a budget. You have $130 Sliver Queen and are playing Vivid lands?
Lots of good advice here about Slivers, but no one has said anything about the manabase? You can improve the manabase even on a budget, but if you're willing to spend some then great, but either way you can make it better. The Vivid lands ( Vivid Grove ) are not good. Even if you were playing proliferate which you're not; there are much better land options. The ETB tapped Fetch lands ( Flood Plain ) are also not good unless you are able to fetch dual lands that can consistently ETB untapped which you don't have here.
The Battle lands ( Cinder Glade ) are good budget dual lands, but only if you're playing a lot of basic lands. There's only 10 basic lands here which means consistently a Battle land won't ETB untapped and when you fetch one it will also ETB tapped. When you need five colors these Fetch lands are too slow and are not helping enough if all they're fetching is a basic land or a Battle land. Consider the Shock lands ( Overgrown Tomb )? You can fetch a Shock land and have it ETB untapped for the cost of 2 life. They could replace the Vivid lands.
If not willing or can't afford to add the Shock lands then another option to consider is adding the Tri lands ( Jungle Shrine ) replacing the Vivid lands and ETB tapped Fetch lands. Tri lands also ETB tapped and are not ideal, but they can make one of three different colors the next turn. Unlike the Vivid lands they can be tapped each turn after to make a different color of mana. The Vivid lands will run out of counters and then they become really useless in a five color deck.
Manabase changes to consider.
Add the Shock lands, cut the Vivid lands:
- Overgrown Tomb
- Temple Garden
- Breeding Pool
- Watery Grave
- Hallowed Fountain
- Stomping Ground
- Blood Crypt
Add the Tri lands, cut the Vivid lands and ETB tapped Fetch lands.
- Jungle Shrine
- Seaside Citadel
- Savage Lands
- Crumbling Necropolis
- Arcane Sanctum
- Opulent Palace
- Frontier Bivouac
- Sandsteppe Citadel
- Mystic Monastery
Consider land tutors: Crop Rotation and/or Sylvan Scrying ? There's several Rainbow lands ( Command Tower ) here that they can tutor for which can be helpful for color fixing. Fellwar Stone is a good two drop mana rock. Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
Lavabelly Sliver + Sliver Queen + Basal Sliver = Death by Boiled Eggs. Pay to activate the Queen 's ability creating a Sliver Creature Token. That token will have Lavabelly 's ETB effect, allowing you to target a player for 1 point of damage. Sacrifice the token using Basal 's ability generating which will be used for...yes you guessed it - another activation of Sliver Queen 's ability which will result in another activation of Lavabelly 's ability. Repeat the process of creating and sacrificing Sliver creature tokens until all would be egg-touchers are dead. That's a solid 3 card combo that's entirely tutor-able by the commander alone - that's why you should keep the Lavabelly .
Syphon Sliver = now, this is entirely dependent on how SHINOBIofFATE wants to build their deck, as this card would be valuable in an aggro focused Sliver deck - combine this with Essence Sliver + Bonescythe Sliver and you get not 1, not 2 but 4 triggers of lifelink per attacking Sliver. (technically, it's 2 triggers of lifelink, and 2 triggers of "Whenever a Sliver deals damage, its controller gains that much life." - if you're thinking "well didn't they errata that?" NO. You are wrong. This is an ability unique to Essence Sliver .) However, if they're going to pursue a Control oriented deck...then yeah, I'd stick with that cut.
4 weeks ago
Gotta admit, this deck probably really only has two ways to go; either infinite mana or buff heavier. Now I could go for Sinew Sliver and Muscle Sliver inclusions and really make it more combat-focused and overwhelming in the early game or I go full in on the mana gimmick. So for now I decided to embrace the later one by going for one of the classics adding Mana Echoes .
cutting down on fat (stuff like Sentinel Sliver and Brood Sliver had to go), added a second Sliver Queen as well as a Patriarch's Bidding for consistency/power. The addition of Cautery Sliver allows to heal myself in a pinch as well as to turn sliver tokens into damage missiles and get rid of Slivers with detrimental effects.
Unclaimed Territory is great, don't know how I could miss that before :) So yeah...auto-include xD
...and saving the best for last: The birds flew away...probably gone south or something. However...don't fret! Due to Swan Song in the SB we definitely won't lack in avian friends. ^_°
1 month ago
(CAUTION: A Huge List of CMDRS dead ahead. If you can't comply, remember that I apologized for the huge wall.)
Well, I was just told how to do a Folder, but to choose what for decks is another thing entirely. Especially if such decks are either:
A: What Everyone Plays B: Are good, but have since been outdated by a year C: Are Tribal Leaders in a Specific Sense (No Morophon, the Boundless please.) D: Not Underdog CMDRs. E: Other.
Let's Just assume we use that cEDH Deck Tier List One-by-One; but w/ a new rule for Playtesting such decks so none of the cEDH Decks win out of overall ratios ~100% of the time; CHANNELFIREBALL-style. That said, From using the Tier List, I require the following CMDR Decks to not have cEDH Level Power, but are these:
The First Sliver (Not as a Sliver Tribe Leader)
Animar, Soul of Elements (Morph Decks not allowed.)
Baral, Chief of Compliance (Get your Counterspells Ready!)
General Tazri (Mandatory Ally Tribe Leader)
Scion of the Ur-Dragon (Possible Dragon Tribe Leader)
Tier 3: WIP
But, yeah, you get the picture, right? Since I can't find such decks on my own to put in such a folder for decks worth testing against your own. Rules are as follows though:
Each deck must not be of cEDH-level power; just imagine how much hell I'd have to playthrough against something just to beat a Thrasios/Tymna Partners deck just to have my claim on this notion nullified.
Decks must include CMDRs that are Popular, were Popular as well as Tribal Decks w/ Good Tribe Leaders (For example: The First Sliver & Sliver Queen do not fit this category where Sliver Overlord does fit the Sliver Tribe Leadership. Scion of the Ur-Dragon & The Ur-Dragon can both count as Dragon Tribe CMDRs. Atraxa, Praetors' Voice is actually a bad CMDR to use in Superfriends, but Shines in all Counter Life. Make good use of that instead of making a 4< Color Walkers Deck. The rulings go on...)
I know this is too much for now, but I'm making a folder for Playtesting w/ decks as everyone kept telling me to do so; now I want to hold my end of the Bargain. But I seriously need help from you to do this. If you can find any decks here to add to such a Folder, put it on the comments below.
(& no, It's not like it's a personal thing! Anyone is allowed to use it when it's finished!)
1 month ago
2 months ago
This doesn't look bad but I think you're missing some of the key slivers:
Shifting Sliver : Makes all you're slivers unblockable unless you're going up against another sliver deck.
Crypt Sliver : helps to avoid combat damage from blockers/combat.
Frenetic Sliver : this one is really clutch. You can just use him in response to a boardwipe to save creatures or potentially save creatures during combat. It can also be paired with Dregscape Sliver so you unearth then before the end step activate the Frenetic and choose to order the Dregscape's sacrifice effect before the Frenetic's return effect so the sacrafice from the unearth happens before the creature is returned and fissiles. so you can essentially play all the cards from your graveyard for , Provided you win the coin flip.
If you want an infinite combo piece you could look at Intruder Alarm which when paired with one of the mana producing slivers can let you play out your entire hand or if you have the Sliver Overlord out, every sliver in the deck.
Sliver Queen occurrence in decks from the last year
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