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Windgrace's Judgment Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking if any recent cards are worth an upgrade in any of your decks. Out of all your decks this one in my opinion has the most potential for upgrades. Even just with cards that are already in Magic, not ones that were in recent sets. You seem serious about upgrading this deck therefore most of my suggestions won't be budget cards.
Cards in recent sets to consider:
Cards that can be potential upgrades for cards here:
- Diabolic Intent or Vampiric Tutor > Diabolic Tutor
- Maelstrom Pulse > Hero's Downfall or Putrefy
- Trophy > Abrupt Decay or Putrefy
- Reanimate or Animate Dead > Vigor Mortis
- Sylvan Library > Ordeal of Nylea
- Berserk > Soul's Might
- Scavenging Ooze > Obsessive Skinner
- Night's Whisper > Harmonize
- Drana, Liberator of Malakir > Vastwood Hydra
- Rishkar, Peema Renegade > Fungal Behemoth
- Pir > Varolz, the Scar-Striped
- Unspeakable Symbol > Death's Presence
- Umezawa's Jitte > Blessings of Nature
- Forum > Evolving Wilds
- Greater Good > Curse of Predation
Good luck with your deck.
1 week ago
Here is a list of cards you could consider for this deck Vona's Hunger, Plaguecrafter, Steel Hellkite, Golgari Signet, Command Tower, Commander's Sphere, Mind Stone, Assassin's Trophy, Oblivion Stone, Windgrace's Judgment, Garruk, Apex Predator, Whip of Erebos, Doom Blade, and Price of Fame.
1 week ago
First off, a big apologies for the delay in getting back into this comments section. Work got the better of me for a week and I've hardly had the time to get on here! Thank you all so much though for pitching in :) It's beyond appreciated!
I'll address each of you individually in here as well, but as a bit of general information, v1.1 of the deck is only incorporating changes from hkhssweiss as his suggested cards were the only cards I was able to get my hands on before the work rush. I do have some from other user's suggestions, but I wanted to get my hands on all suggested cards, not just the few I had.
Thankfully, I do now have a decent amount of spare time on my hands and will be visiting my LGS to purchase and try out all card suggestions within the next couple of days.
@MillersEdge - Wow, dude, what an effort you put into that, thank you ever so much! It's quite clear you know your stuff :)
Regarding ramp, I can certainly appreciate your observation. The lack of mana rocks in this deck is definitely a big thing. I really like the idea of Coalition Relic, Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice and believe all 3 of these will make it into v1.2. Forest retrieval cards are nice but can become dud draws fairly quickly in the game. I've added both Nature's Lore and Three Visits to the MaybeBoard anyway and will play-test with them as well. I want to get both Birds of Paradise and Noble Hierarch in somehow too.
Phyrexian Scriptures has also made it onto the MaybeBoard. It's certainly an eye-catcher with all 3 abilities having relevance, and I do like the idea of Saga's (never played them before). In saying that, one of the common players at my playgroup has both a Sharuum the Hegemon deck and a Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. We'll see how it goes.
In terms of the prison related cards, I'm actually probably going to move away from this plan, as to do it effectively you do seem to dedicate a large amount of slots. However, Spike Weaver genuinely looks amazing. I've no doubts that he'll see some MainBoard action in the future.
Privileged Position is currently in for a late game pillow fort strat involving Privileged Position, Sterling Grove and Avacyn, Angel of Hope. To be honest though, the three of these cards might be swapped later for others anyway as they really only hold relevance to themselves. Or I'll simply add Shalai, Voice of Plenty as well as Privileged Position as quite a few other users are also recommending it. Armageddon is hated at my playgroup, but I don't mind being 'that-guy' every so-often ;) I'll play test it this week and see what the general reaction is.
The walkers got a pretty big shuffle around since you might have last seen the deck, but I do see the relevance of Tezzeret the Seeker and Garruk Wildspeaker. Tezzeret the Seeker could come in handy if I can increase my mana rock amount, and I think I prefer the idea of him over Garruk Wildspeaker. Will get back to you with results.
Leyline of Anticipation has landed in the MaybeBoard with high chances of being MainBoarded. I genuinely forgot all about this badboy!
Really really like the idea of Nexus of Fate, looking forward to seeing what sort of shenanigans I might be able to pull off with that. Savor the Moment is definitely competitive, but the late game appeal of Nexus of Fate is striking me more.
I'll definitely jump onto your list as well and have a fish around :) As well as throwing in my own 2 cents! Thanks again.
@Aragon_Neotrix - Thank you! Definitely hearing you regarding proliferate-able targets. I'm hoping to improve on that in the next iteration with counter based mana rocks etc.
Aetherworks Marvel is amazing, hardly surprising it was banned in standard eh?! I did admittedly forget about energy and experience counters. I'm sure this is going to make it onto the MainBoard.
I'll take a closer look over your own version over the next day or two for some more proliferation ideas, and will throw in any suggestions I have myself :)
@ManSauce - Man, every suggestion here is on point. Thank you so much!
Captain Sisay is a card that wouldn't have occurred to me. Very likely become one of the main tutors in the deck. Mox Amber and Noble Hierarch - Yep. Definitely keen on both. Ramp is becoming the main concern of the next update.
Plaxcaster Frogling is another one that I don't think I ever would have found. Interested to see how I can use it. Shalai, Voice of Plenty has received a few recommendations now. I'll be likely to find a spot for this too. Llanowar Reborn could pretty much be an auto-include.
I've jumped onto your profile and bookmarked your own version to go over in more depth. Thanks heaps for the suggestions :)
@Jimmy_Chinchila Man I've been spamming Search for Azcanta Flip in Magic Arena lately and for whatever reason it didn't even occur to me here! Thalia's Lancers is indeed solid but I think it might lack by comparison to some other tutors. Regardless it's been added to play testing.
Forgive me for the bulk of cards sitting in the MaybeBoard, my worst ability is choosing what has to come out! Aha. As mentioned earlier though, I've setup a large chunk of time to go through all current suggestions over the next couple of days and look forwards to coming back to cull the list :)
Thanks heaps for the suggestions, I've also bookmarked yours to go over in more depth!
@hkhssweiss - You're more than welcome my man! :) Thanks heaps for coming back again! Aha.
Not to worry regarding the planeswalker suggestions. I may be a little rash with my initial judgement of Vraska, Golgari Queen but admittedly the current objective has me focused on getting other utility spells in over planeswalkers.
Assassin's Trophy is amazing. I'd expect to see this in just about every G/B deck moving forward! Likely to make it in, just need to allocate a spot. Djeru, With Eyes Open is definitely one I hadn't seen before! His second ability might just make him a prime tutor candidate. Windgrace's Judgment is also phenomenal. Most of my games have 5+ people making this awfully attractive.
Shalai, Voice of Plenty has popped up 3 times now making her impossible to ignore! xD Pir, Imaginative Rascal is beyond amazing and as the more important part of Doubling Season is almost guaranteed a spot.
Thanks heaps yet again my dude! I do more than appreciate you sticking around :)
Ty all! Now to testing, woo!
1 month ago
Daedalus19876: Thanks alot for the response :) You are definitely right, maybe my meta just removes it too fast so i never really get to use it, and my meta is quite high level so removing one thing a turn is usually not enough :) Might swap it for Windgrace's Judgment in my build :)
Agree with Deathrite Shaman, have cut him to use in my other decks. I completely agree with Quillspike i always seem to miss one more combo piece to go off with him, and he won't survive the turn rotation. Riding the Dilu Horse True, but then again every deck needs a pet card and it is very good :)
1 month ago
Odysseus_97: It’s definitely not a BAD card and I’ve considered adding it here. But I generally... don’t want my removal at 5 mana? I play in a meta where my removal has to defuse early combo, whereas Windgrace's Judgment is more of a tempo/value piece.
Pabs4444: Honestly I don’t generally have TOO much trouble with mana here (my curve is low), though I’ve been considering going up to 33 land. I also generally don’t have a huge problem with Harbinger of Night: by the time it kills my commander it’s generally done it’s job. Still, it’s one of the weaker things in here, and I’d definitely cut it if there weren’t so few global -1 placement effects :/
(And Skinrender, at best, kills one thing and gives me one snake. Not overly a fan.)
1 month ago
1 month ago
Re-review Additional Comments:
Potential Fun: Nesting Dragon
1 month ago
Some cards like Wayward Swordtooth and general utility cards like Windgrace's Judgment and Victimize will be better than trophy mage that has 2 cards it can fetch, search for azcanta (the deck is 76% creatures and lands) and 1 basic land.