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Bant Charm Discussion
3 days ago
I have: 2 Opts (INV), Faerie Conclave, Supreme Verdict (RTR, some edge wear), and Serum Visions (CN2). I also have several cards from your wants: Reveillark (MOR), Bant Charm, Goblin Bombardment, Boggart Shenanigans, Quest for the Goblin Lord, Archetype of Finality, Whispers of the Muse, Battle Mastery, and Flow of Ideas.
Although, the only things in your binder I'm interested in are your 3 fetches. All the cards I just listed are roughly equal to Polluted Delta at about $18, but I understand if you don't want to trade a fetch into smaller cards. Let me know what you think.
3 weeks ago
I apologize for the late reply to your post on my binder. I recently got into Modern so I would rather hold onto my Bloodstained Mire to put towards other fetches. I am not sure if there is anything else I could offer for the Shared Animosity, but I would still be interested in the Bant Charm, Emeria Angel, and Quest for the Goblin Lord.
1 month ago
Dissolve, Counterspell, Dismiss, Bant Charm is a personal favorite, especially when it protects your finishers and stops the Torpor Orb menace and its creature counterparts, Cancel, Broken Concentration, Draining Whelk pairs nicely with restoration angel and Eldrazi displacer, Dream Fracture, Faerie Trickery is good in a faerie-less meta, Familiar's Ruse can put a blink target back into your hand so its not a downside per-say, Hinder, Render Silent, Rewind, Scatter to the Winds, Spell Swindle , Void Shatter are cheaper alternatives. If you're looking for cool or niche cards, or cards that you don't know/remember use Scryfall, its basically Gatherer but better that's where I found a lot of these.
My first couple of cuts would be Gilded Lotus (you're in green, you can ramp for the mana you need if you put in more basics with cards like Explosive Vegetation and Blighted Woodland) so cutting a bunch of the non fetch able lands would be where I would cut, so the scry lands and cards like Port Town (but not the pain lands, those work with your Eldrazi displacer since you don't have Wastes, which I recommend for you 2 regardless, you can fetch for them while the pain lands can provide you with fixing and colorless mana) and if you do add those basics ignore my other suggestion about taking out either farhaven or solemn. Minion Reflector, Fabricate, and Enlightened Tutor to help put the combo together, Birthing Pod and Felidar Guardian are absolutely nuts regardless of your win con, you can go from a 2 drop into a 6 drop in a turn! If you're keeping Brago then you really don't need Momentary Blink, Ghostly Flicker, or Eerie Interlude, you could put either more creatures (or counterspells, which is my suggestion) If you want to keep vorinclex you will need that birthing pod and felidar, I would also say you would need either Mirari's Wake or some way to discard it reliably and cheat it back into play with karmic guide and figure out some way to protect it, namely with counterspells, but if you want to control the table there are better ways, like with Thought-Knot Seer to remove answers as you build your board state and gain an ally with its LTB trigger. Avenger of zendikar is a fantastic late game threat but obviously you need to get more lands in play, so that's the other reason I say add more basics, its pretty inopportune to use another threat to power another threat in this specific capacity, its alright with sun titan since he can also attack to get you a fetch from your grave instead of needing to enter play.
Roon is a toolbox deck, so you need to focus on either progressing your board state rapidly as you accrue more value than all of your other opponents and/or stopping your opponents from having their board states, so for combo your finishers would be locking out the table with dead-eye, and/or creating an infinite army with reveilark, karmic guide and minion reflector, you already have mystic snake, and you already know how to go make infinite mana with karmic guide and reveilark. Later down the road I would recommend using that dead-eye with Thought-Knot Seer to take away your opponents answers.
Hopefully this gives you more than what you needed, but I would need to know how you would like to finish your games in order for me to help make other cuts, do you want to stomp your opponents into submission? Or would you like to combo out while their pants are down? Or would you like a bit of both, because each of these are possible, I just need to know what direction you would like to take this control build.
1 month ago
Depending on which angle of control you want to take, I can offer different suggestions.
Some staples for Derevi you'll want to consider no matter what build you end up going for: Swords to Plowshares, Edric, Spymaster of Trest, Birds of Paradise, Tamiyo, Field Researcher, and Counterspell.
From your description, you could consider running a pillow-fort strategy. It's kind of like an extremely watered-down version of Stax that really just prevents opponents from attacking you, while they still have the resources to attack each other. It's definitely a politics-heavy strategy, making deals with opponents to convince them that other people are better targets until you start laying down wincons.
Your wincons are going to be big fatties that also lock down the board or take advantage of your protection: Stormtide Leviathan (can't recommend this one enough), Azor's Elocutors, Isperia, Supreme Judge, and Blazing Archon.
If you want more traditional control that utilizes tapping/untapping, the general good all-arounds are: Aven Mindcensor, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Hokori, Dust Drinker, Trygon Predator, Bant Charm, Supreme Verdict, and Winter Orb.
For blink abuse, I suggest Deadeye Navigator.
As a general structure for your EDH deck, try to follow the pattern of 10 mana accelerators, 10 card draw effects, 5 spot removal, 5 boardwipes, and 4 tutor effects.
There's a few filler cards that don't fall in any of those categories, and don't necessary synergise. I recommend removing: Djinn of Infinite Deceits, Hada Spy Patrol, Kazandu Tuskcaller, Phantom Nantuko, Winged Coatl, Wonder, Curse of Predation, Pyramid of the Pantheon, Thunderstaff, AEthermage's Touch, Biomass Mutation, and Sprouting Vines.
1 month ago
2 months ago
I say take out that Flickerform and Rite of Replication out of the deck, Don't get me wrong, they are fantastic cards, but there is really nothing to gain spending 4 mana to blink a singular creature, or dumping 9 mana into something that doesn't win you the game, but only draws attention, I would say yes to that if this was a voltron build or a control shell. Roon is a creature based deck at the end of the day not either of those archetypes.
There are basic lands called Wastes, They are colorless lands that are supremely useful if you are running Eldrazi Displacer, especially since they're basics (you could also be a dick and play Thought-Knot Seer like me). If you ran either a couple more basics instead of those tap lands or put in the lands like these: Scattered Groves, Irrigated Farmland along with shock lands and/or the buddy land/tango land from BFZ, you can get rid of those top deck duds known as signets and run something more useful, like Swords to Plowshares or Path to Exile. You should also run Solemn Simulacrum instead of wood elves based on how many basics you are playing, you could turn this into a hyper ramp deck on the side that's immune to Blood Moon and Back to Basics You could also take out that caravan and put in the ever useful Commander's Sphere, at its worst it can get you a card.
If you are really worried about torpor orb (which we Roon player's ALL should) Then I recommend this removal: Naturalize, Disenchant, Krosan Grip, Return to Dust, Angelic Purge, and my personal favorite, Bant Charm. Why bant charm? It does everything. It can take care of a pesky artifact (torpor orb) it moves a creature to the bottom of their owner's library (torpor orb on a stick: Hushwing Gryff, and Tocatli Honor Guard), and can hit an instant that you don't want to see, it's just good. Get that birthing pod ASAP. Paired with your deceiver exarch, Derevi, and felidar you can pod again and again! I'd say take out that extra blink, its not that necessary. Those instant and sorcery spells that blink do nothing on an empty board state, where restoration angel can be a blocker. Throw in more counterspells, they do more in top deck mode anyway.
Value is good, but it really means nothing if you can't kill someone, let alone the rest of the table, armada wurm is good, but you could do better! Trostani's Summoner, Hornet Queen, and Avenger of Zendikar are fantastic threats by themselves, but what if I told you they had an exceedingly powerful interaction with Cathars' Crusade? I'll let that one sink in.
Some of the cards in the sideboard should be in the main deck, Thragtusk's leave the battlefield trigger gets around torpor orb, so you can still have a 5/3 and 3/3 team of beaters ready to kill the orb player (even if you can't gain that 5 life). There are even creatures that only benefit from leaving the battlefield, such as Nevermaker, or Meadowboon, and Reveillark recurs your whole deck as it stands when it leaves, and if you add the aforementioned summoner and hornet queen you can recur game enders, it can even go infinite with karmic guide and a sac outlet, like Ashnod's Altar, which I think you should be running anyway. Find a way to put in Prime Speaker Zegana, Duplicant, Mystic Snake, and Reclamation Sage into the deck, because they are way too good not to be played in your deck, let alone any Roon deck! You also won't need cards like Oblivion Ring if you have Thought-Knot Seer, reveals a hand and exiles a thing forever instead of having the risk of having it come back, and it's leave the battlefield trigger can make an ally! Day of Judgment hoses you just as much as the guy you are trying to punish, especially with how little recursion you are running. If you are scared of an out of hand board state get Duplicant or Fiend Hunter instead. I find Mirror Entity something I don't play, it doesn't give me value when it comes into play, and I need to pump mana into it to be good, I find myself using that mana to play more blink targets rather than the entity. You could also throw in another Planeswalker that actually benefits this decks overall game plan very well: Kiora, Master of the Depths, she untaps Roon, can get a creature or land we need, and if you ultimate her, gives us targeted removal when we blink our value creatures!
And for my final recommendation I point you towards the Minion Reflector, this baby does everything you could ever want. Doubles your ETB triggers (and LTB triggers depending) and gives you a disposable minion that can swing in with no repercussion! It can also go infinite with Reveillark, karmic guide, and Ashnod's altar to make an infinite army like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker. If you want more suggestions just ask, or check out my Roon list for reference!
2 months ago
Cancel is pretty bad, I get it, its cheap, but I would suggest either the original Counterspell orDissolve since they do more for the mana put into them. Wall of Blossoms or Wall of Omens is a way better pick over Carven Caryatid for obvious reasons. I will always recommend Restoration Angel and Felidar Guardian over instants and sorceries that don't stick around like Momentary Blink. The other upside to Restoration Angel is that she can be a surprise blocker that's out of bolt range and flies, which is always a plus. If you are running into trouble with Torpor Orb and Hushwing Gryff and Tocatli Honor Guard, run Swords to Plowshares /Path to Exile and for the orb: Naturalize/Krosan Grip. In place of those charms I would run Bant Charm, its the best charm you should be playing since it takes care of an artifact (or torpor orb), an instant, or a creature (with torpor orb's effect on it) and Angelic Purge, they're so good! Get rid of the Tamiyo, she doesn't fit the theme of the deck, nor is she directly progressing your game plan, I would recommend Kiora, Master of the Depths, she untaps Roon (and a land), can dig for a creature or land, and if you get her there you can gain spot removal, that and she isn't as mana intensive. I also believe that you need either lower CMC creatures or get a Birthing Pod (pod also combos with Felidar Guardian). Aerie Mystics does nothing, don't get me wrong, they look cool, but they don't do anything when they enter play, and they might protect your stuff, but that's assuming that you have the mana open to do so especially if you want to play those big CMC creatures I mentioned. The sword needs to go, I'm sorry, the sword just sucks hard-boiled eggs. I used to have a control magic in my deck, Its not what this type of deck is looking for, the same goes for the djinn its way too slow. Gilded Drake is obviously better, but its really expensive, but effective. I'm surprised you don't have a Duplicant in here. Minion Reflector and Ashnod's Altar are niche picks from me, I'll let you figure out how they go infinite! If you want an AEtherling then get one, not a goofy enchantment. You would probably need to add wastes to your deck, but Eldrazi Displacer can help you not rely on casting Roon as much and start focusing on the value you need to generate. Get a Mulldrifter, its too good not to have. If you still have Derevi, Empyrial Tactician add her back in. Commander's Sphere is better than the keyrune, hands down. And for the final bit I'll add (if you want more advice just ask or see my Roon deck) is a ramp set, Solemn Simulacrum, Explosive Vegetation, Blighted Woodland, and Armillary Sphere.
2 months ago
I don't play French EDH, so I don't know how fast the format is in comparison, I know its faster, but how fast, I can't say. But what I can say is that Panharmonicon seems really slow, it just kinda does nothing progressive if you play it on curve on the more direct version of the EDH format, keep it in if you don't get punished for it. I also think that more blink could be cool, It might just be the filthy regular EDH I have been playing, but Restoration Angel could be a solid pick since she is a flash body that's out of bolt range. I like her and Felidar Guardian instead of blink spells like Ghostly Flicker since they can at least block if you need them instead of having cards in your hand that do nothing after a wrath, they even lower the dependency on Roon. A bit more card draw is something I think your deck needs, either that or it needs to be able to fetch the creatures you need. Putting back in Prime Speaker Zegana or adding Cloudblazer since it isn't so much of a mana sink and it can stabilize you in a tough spot, like Thragtusk. Or you could put in cards like Congregation at Dawn or a blink target like Brutalizer Exarch (and if you had more creatures you could put in Birthing Pod since it can be blinked by Felidar). A little more versatility in your spells would be nice, like adding charms. I think your spells are good, (a little over kill on counters, but again, I don't play French EDH) but I think you will really like Bant Charm, It takes care of the top threat and other cards that can lock down your deck, every ability is live and its versatile, Angelic Purge is another really good piece of removal, being able to sacrifice a permanent to exile a threat is very satisfying. Also throw in Glen Elendra Archmage over negate, you can blink it so glen elendra doesn't die. I get, Ugin is really cool, but you aren't rushing him out like you would in a format like modern. Venser seems good with the unlockable minus, but I think you might be better off with something like Craterhoof Behemoth, or Overwhelming Stampede, or even Cathars' Crusade as better finishers. Gaea's Cradle is expensive, and banned, so try Itlimoc, Cradle of the Sun if you have more creatures. Your Deadeye navigator could use a buddy to go infinite with, I suggest these two: Peregrine Drake, and Palinchron. Gitaxian Probe is better than peek, just sayin'. Nissa seems good in a 2 color deck at best, I would swap her with something different, like Derevi, Empyrial Tactician since you can cast her to untap Roon, and attack to have pseudo vigilance for your creatures. Krosan Grip also takes care of stuff. Angel of Finality would be my pick over relic since its for similar reasons as restoration angel, and its blinkable. Karmic Guide for recursion, and.. Ooooh, this is a long comment... If you want more suggestions, I can most certainly post more, but for right now, I'll let you think about the suggestions I just gave you.