Hokori, Dust Drinker
Legendary Creature — Spirit
Lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.
At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a land he or she controls.
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|Betrayers of Kamigawa (BOK)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Hokori, Dust Drinker Discussion
3 weeks ago
Very nice deck. I have a paper Alesha, Who Smiles at Death list, so I can appreciate another paper non-blue stax deck.
Things I enjoy
Hope of Ghirapur is a very saucy include and is a strong Glissa recursion target
Tainted Wood and the other tainted lands are EXTREMELY under rated
Ulvenwald Tracker has some crazy strong synergy with Glissa (first strike and deathtouch)
Areas I can see improvement
First, Tree of Tales and Vault of Whispers raise risk while providing extremely marginal benefit (Mox Opal metalcraft). While it is recurrable with Glissa, you risk the chance of things like ETB tapped, get sniped on a land drop on turn 1 or 2, having it turned into a Mountain, or just having it not untap. Having 2 more basics will allow your Crucible of Worlds to be a BEAST with fetchlands and makes games against other stax decks easier. Similarly, you can ease off a touch with the non-standard dual color producers, because its only a two color deck. While these cards are certainly nice, cutting another 2-4 for various utility lands I bet you won't notice a drop in color consistency because of the high fetch density. I would also consider Wasteland and Ghost Quarter, which conveniently work extremely well with Crucible of Worlds in a stax deck. Green also has access to Ramunap Excavator, as well as the highly cancerous Exploration and Burgeoning and Azusa, Lost but Seeking. Blowing up a couple lands a turn makes players scoop pretty fast.
I think you should run the elf squad. Turn 1 elves make mana faster which helps A LOT. Stax decks needs to have strong starts, to get ahead of players so you can bury them with symmetrical and asymmetrical effects. Llanowar Elves Fyndhorn Elves Elvish Mystic Elves of Deep Shadow. I think these will help your consistency and speed. Also consider Priest of Titania. These are also great mid and late game targets for Skullclamp.
Artifact based draw that graveyards itself provides huge incidental value with Glissa. Specifically, Chromatic Star and Chromatic Sphere are worthy of includes. You could even grab Barbed Sextant if you strongly liked the chromatic effects.
Mana Web is a great effect when it goes, but I have personally found this card to be lackluster in color identities that lack White or Blue. It needs supporting cards to make it go, like Winter Orb and Static Orb. Blue and white get the benefit of having further extensions with Hokori, Dust Drinker and Stasis, and I really believe this card belongs mostly in decks.
Smallpox and Innocent Blood are synergy inclusions, but they are rather marginal if drawn later in the game. You could consider swapping one of them into Damnation. I don't think Sickening Dreams is worthwhile if you aren't running a combo to draw 50 cards and kill the table with it.
Tormod's Crypt could be worth running. Ezpz recursion target that you can always pop for value if someone has a creature about to die on the stack. Helps against fish hulk which you think is a bad match up. Also every deck has some way to gas from the GY.
You run some creatures that seem value oriented, but I think should be replaced. Wurmcoil Engine Ravenous Slime Scrap Trawler. I don't think you're getting enough meaningful action on combat for wurmcoil, I think ravenous is pretty marginal at beats as well as GY patrol, and scrap trawler is redundant with your commander and doesn't really advance your game plan.
1 month ago
I run a similar style with my Derevi deck, though I use primarily enchantments instead of creatures for one simple reason - Creatures are usually easier to remove. But here's some cards that I'd recommend using if you're going for as much resource denial as possible:
Creatures: Seedborn Muse , Angus Mackenzie , Lavinia, Azorius Renegade , Sigarda, Host of Herons , Hokori, Dust Drinker , Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker , False Prophet , Baird, Steward of Argive , Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer , Melira, Sylvok Outcast I'd only recommend using Melira if you plan on having Phyrexian Unlife in the deck.
Enchantments: Pendrell Mists , Frozen AEther , Blind Obedience , Privileged Position , Greater Auramancy , Back to Basics , Land Equilibrium , Propaganda , War Tax , Collective Restraint , Teferi's Moat , Moat , Humility , Overwhelming Splendor , Leyline of Anticipation , Solemnity , Invoke Prejudice , Mana Reflection , Mechanized Production , Overburden , Rising Waters , Rule of Law , Wilderness Reclamation
1 month ago
Last_Laugh If the guy uses the same deck without modification repeatedly, with similar results repeatedly, then you shift your deck and strategy accordingly, this is not "hating him off the table", it is forcing him to shift with a meta that has caught wise to his repetitive behavior through the best way possible: action. As far as targeted hate goes against true "stax on steroids" that may be a losing battle with all that 1:1 trading (depending on the deck), that may be okay as long as you are cool taking him down with you. Focusing too much on Tamanoa istelf vs. the parity-breaking stax elements will not address the continued mind-numbing game delay & slow locks. I've just found really strong stax to be pretty strong against conventional decks & less strong against unconventional & gifting strategies & this isn't "planning with opponents" this is in-game wisdom.. This guy locks down a game with Winter Orb , Hokori, Dust Drinker , etc.. ok, so you cast a legit politics-based spell, or free up resources for everyone. Where do you think freeplay creatures for all, scheming symmetry, etc... should be pointed? I never recommended to: sit down & table talk with opponents but using cards to free up resource restrictions & therefore letting others play some of their decks can gain you a unique resource advantage: other players, at least temporarily. Throwing that spice in your gumbo will also provide those more crazy-swingy game vibes & less of that stagnant "why did I start another game with this guy?" vibe.
1 month ago
I totally agree. While it would certainly make mono white commanders far more viable, white already has enough going for it to make it a sought after color for wedges or dual colored commanders.
White sees lots of play in stax decks, as it packs the most hatebears of any color. Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Leonin Arbiter Aven Mindcensor Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite Grand Abolisher Hokori, Dust Drinker Ethersworn Canonist Kataki, War's Wage are all cards that see competitive play. You have far more fringe cases like Vryn Wingmare Alms Collector Thalia, Heretic Cathar Loxodon Gatekeeper and others which are seen on the fringe. The hatebears become a secondary wincon for competitive by pressuring life totals while also stopping the game.
White also gets a BUNCH of incredible supporting effects for stax builds. Armageddon and the expensive Ravages of War close games. Smothering Tithe plays great under stax. There are also numerous enchantments are shut off combos or lines of play, such as Rest in Peace Stony Silence Leyline of Sanctity Suppression Field and all kinds of less effective variants.
White also gives some of the most efficient 1-for-1 removal. While you will fall behind with 1-for-1's in a 4 player pod, its still important to pack StP and Path. White also gets sweepers for EVERY SINGLE PERMANENT TYPE. You read that correctly kids. You can do A-lot-for-1 trades with cards like Wrath of God Austere Command Cleanfall Paraselene and others.
White also gets one of the best pieces of combo protection available, Silence . White has a few tutors that are playable, Enlightened Tutor Steelshaper's Gift Open the Armory Academy Rector Stoneforge Mystic . You get card advantage via effects like Land Tax Tithe Weathered Wayfarer and more.
True, white doesn't have very many cards with the word "Draw" explicitly on it. You're able to accrue advantage, but its mostly incremental. What white lacks in raw draw you make up for with value. The sweepers are the best example of this imo. The opponent may have drawn more cards than you, but trading 1 card for 10 creatures on the board is effectively 9 card advantage.
I personally enjoy most duals or wedges that include White + Black or White + Blue. I find it to be similar to Green, in that I don't feel bad with having it as a secondary or tertiary color, and that it solves a lot of problems and gives me access to cards I want to run.
2 months ago
Yes! Seedborn Muse !! Same reason I always include that card with Planar Bridge . Very potent to have a freeplay every opponents turn. Especially if you are dastardly enough to search for Hokori, Dust Drinker right away... Or something equally obnoxious.
3 months ago
Cards to Add: Ensnaring Bridge Bottled Cloister Grand Abolisher Stony Silence Static Orb Hokori, Dust Drinker Torpor Orb Coalition Relic Scroll Rack Mind's Eye Crackdown Austere Command Terminus Worn Powerstone
3 months ago
You're going to have to run a lot of symmetrical effects (hit all players) and then run cards to get around them yourself. In a 4 player pod, if you 1 for 1 trade cards from hand for opponents lands, you're going to be really far behind. You start with 7 cards, while your opponents collectively have 21 cards. 1 for 1 trades are not the way to go about building this deck.
Now, some ways to negate the drawback
- Boros Garrison and other bouncelands -> lets you get more from untapping just 1 land, and the bounce resets a land to enter untapped again
- Lands that tap for 2+ mana -> Ancient Tomb City of Traitors Gaea's Cradle most of these are expensive-ish. Also check out depletion lands Remote Farm its a full cycle and they cheap.
- Permanent untap effects -> Seedborn Muse and similar
- Lots of artifact or creature based mana. Signets and Talismans are great in five color budget.
Next, some cards that destroy lands or hate on lands. Armageddon Boil Choke Flashfires Acid Rain Ravages of War Destructive Force Contamination Blood Moon Magus of the Moon Tsabo's Web Omen of Fire Strip Mine Wasteland Impending Disaster Tectonic Break Ruination Wildfire
Then we run some cards that let us recur lands, or like when lands break Ramunap Excavator Crucible of Worlds Life from the Loam Terravore The Gitrog Monster Titania, Protector of Argoth Splendid Reclamation
Add some lands matter cards, some ramp, and some good beaters, and you have a deck.