|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Alara Reborn (ARB)||Rare|
Combos Browse all
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, that creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, if it's the first combat phase of the turn, untap that creature. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase.
Price & Acquistion Set Price Alerts
Finest Hour Discussion
3 months ago
Would rather just remove the creature than Armament of Nyx
There are better lands than guildgates that are still cheap (like life lands)
Leonin Sun Standard is ok, but I'm not a huge fan.
Removal: Bant Charm Treva's CharmArmy of Allah is meh. Misthollow Griffin is too costly. Hovermyr won't block too much with 2 toughness, so vigilance isn't too great, making 2 mana cost, too much. Aven Sunstriker cost too much for its power.
In memory of DnD Characters: Ragnar
3 months ago
I think it is going to depend on how you plan on winning. All of them are good options for a third color but if you plan on winning with commander damage your best option is naya since Uril, the Miststalker is a thing. If you are looking more to lock everyone out and poke away at them slowly black has some devastatingly hateful enchantments. It is an enchantress deck so you don't need blues draw power but blue also has some nice prison effects. I guess all three options have Starfield of Nyx so you should run that. Any thoughts on what you want the deck to really do? Enchantress theme is a good start but I really like to have some good ideas about how I want to win and what I do between winning and game start before I build, personally.
Here are some of what I think would be noteworthy cards:
3 months ago
Really sweet deck, but I'm curious on some of your card choices. Namely, Rhox War Monk, Rafiq of the Many, Saffi Eriksdotter, Maelstrom Archangel, and Finest Hour. Can you explain what they are for and why you run them over other options?
But anyway, I always love a Glittering Wish deck and this looks amazing, so +1.
4 months ago
An exalted theme deck. Really sweet. If you don't mind getting a proxy set of Noble Hierarch and go 4 sublime archangel, you could luck into sweet kills.
Example: T1: Noble Hierarch; T2: Cultivate (or some sort other way to scrounge out 2 lands to field or hand); T3; Sublime Archangel, T4; Finest Hour Swing for 8 then again for 12 totaling 20 damage on turn 4!
5 months ago
Well Derevi stax is definitely a very nasty terrible thing since you can lock the board down and have Derevi dodge all your effects for you. In that case I'd suggest cutting down to around 20 creatures to allow more support/control/stax cards. Place to start is checking the abilities of things you have and looking for doubles; example being Frozen AEther is a blue double of Kismet. Hokori, Dust Drinker is another good one in addition to Mana Web and Static Orb (which I see in your sideboard).
A good "average" that should work for you is a 20-25% split on your cards. ~15 cards that inhibit opponents with Stax effects (ETB tapped). ~15 Control cards, board wipes, counterspells, etc. ~15 cards for mana ramp/acceleration for yourself: mana rocks, land ramp, etc. ~15 creatures that can hit unimpeded and are cheap CMC (your Jhessian Infiltrator is a prime example). Finally 35 lands is a good basis.
Alternatively you could drop either the stax or control for pillowfort cards. Derevi offers a lot of options as you obviously found out lol. OR..., a potentially fun offshoot you could use is an Exalted theme with Derevi. Add in cards like Stoic Angel and Dueling Grounds to support it and offer some pillowfort and things like Finest Hour to make the most of Derevi's ability.
6 months ago
checking out this list and offering my constructive criticism :D
Please keep in mind that this is just my take on Scion, there's definitely a lot of ways you can build it, so these comments are going with the train of though that being voltron for the win is the most efficient path to victory :D
I'll break it down by category:
Lands:I'd probably cut minamo and high market. From there, I think 36 lands is fine, and I'd play 2 of each basic to play around non-basic hate and to take advantage of some other effects from cards I'll mention later.
I'd also consider running ancient tombs in place of Crystal Quarry, cascading cataracts just seems like a better version
Sorcery:I feel like these should mostly be either- Powerful board wipes- Powerful card draw- Stuff that will win you the game
My reasoning for this is that this deck probably draws stuff it doesn't want to/can't play, and those cards end up being dead in the hand for too long.
In your list, I'd probably cut:
1x Channel the Suns - this card takes up a slot to net you 1 mana. If you're fetching right and have mana rocks, this card is basically dead.
1x Fearsome Awakening - very slow reanimation spell, the 2x +1/+1 counters aren't an upside worth paying 5 mana for in my opinion.
1x Skyshroud Claim - you can probably find a better rate for ramp + fixing, a 4cmc sorcery seems like too steep of a price to pay.
Sorceries I'd consider bringing in are:
- Maelstrom Pulse - relevant vs tokens
- Akroma's Vengeance - flexible boarwipe thanks to cycling.
- Time Spiral - re-gas or reconstitute a weak hand.
- Rite of Replication - either copy the best threat, or make 5x of one of your dudes. Basically wins you the game with Scourge of Valkas if kicked (basically a super Valakut - 6x5x6 = 180 damage, since each copy Valkas will see 6 dragons entering the field at once)
- Bring to Light - essentially a tutor
Moving on to Instants:I'd cut Lure of Prey and Sarkhan's Triump. Feels like this deck wants to basically win with Scion getting through with commander damage, ultimately a voltron approach to victory. With that being said, I think you can jam a lot of high impact instants. These come to mind:
- Path to Exile
- Swords to Plowshares - life gain doesn't really matter if you're winning with 21 commander damage.
- Disallow - gets rid of tricky stuff, and its a solid counterpell overall
- Fact or Fiction - fills the GY, digs 5 cards deep at instant speed for 4cmc.
- Savage Beating - for 5 or 7 cmc, you win the game
- Hatred - seems decent in EDH, with 40 life, you're basically trading off 5cmc + 15 life to either win the game, or to knock someone out of the game (commander damage).
Enchantments:Cuts, due to low impact, in my opinion:
- Aura Shards
- Dragon Tempest - might be keepable, haste is relevant.
Greater Good - don't think you want to be sacrificing your dudes, plus your blue instant speed stuff should be drawing you cards :D
- Pattern of Rebirth
- Pernicious Deed
- Sylvan Library
If I were jamming Scion, I'd probably want my enchantments to do 1 of 3 things - either keep me alive, protect my dudes, or act as a damage multiplier or grants evasion so I can win via commander damage.
Stuff that keeps you alive:
Stuff that protects my dudes:- Asceticism - you already run this, nothing else off the top of my head atm.
Evasion/game winning stuff:
- Thasa God of the Sea - an enchantment that gives auto-scry, is indestructible, AND grants unblockable? Seems decent.
- In the Web of War - haste seems good, or maybe this can just be an Anger? Meta call, depends on how much GY hate there happens to be :D
- Xenagos, God of Revels - more commander damage!
- Duelist's Heritage - MORE damage!
- Gratuitous Violence - even MORE damage
- Finest Hour - this is basically game ending
Now, on to Artifacts:
First, stuff that doesn't pass the initial eye test:
- Crucible - no obvious synergy
- Dragon Arch - seems iffy, you end up paying 7cmc to play a multi-colored creature, at which point, you can probably just play the creature. If the creature costs less than 7cmc, you kind of just owned yourself.
Stuff I think is worth checking out:- Chrome Mox- Prismatic Geoscope - this is what those basics will help out with :D- Fellwar Stone - most likely fixes some colors + ramps- Swiftfoot Boots - lightning greaves #2- Credit Voucher - cycles dead cards for potentially not dead cards, for the low cost of 2cmc
Planeswalkers - I noticed you don't run any, I think these might be decent:Sarkhan Unbroken - CARD DRAW + mana fixing/ramp in one? SEEMS GOOD!Sorin, Grim Nemesis - MORE CARD DRAW!? AND with the high CMC of your stuff, the drain should be excellent every now and then.Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker - Takes care of any creature threat + flavor win
CREATURES!!I'd make these cuts on the thinking that they either:A) Don't win you the gameB) Don't advance your boardstate enoughC) Don't provide adequate utilityC) You're never going to be able to abuse their 3cmc payment abilities + you probably will only have one shot with them. Feels like the mana would be better spent winning with Scion.
- 1x Balefire Dragon
- 1x Bladewing the Risen
- 1x Dragon Mage
- 1x Dragonlord Ojutai
- 1x Dragonlord's Servant
- 1x Dragonspeaker Shaman
- 1x Hellkite Tyrant
- 1x Karrthus, Tyrant of Jund
- 1x Numot, the Devastator
- 1x Savage Ventmaw
- 1x Steel Hellkite
- 1x Teneb, the Harvester
- 1x Tyrant's Familiar
- 1x Utvara Hellkite
- 1x Vorosh, the Hunter
Creatures I'd consider running:
- Magus of the Moat
- Kaalia of the Vast
- Dragonlord Kolaghan
- Rafiq of the Many
- Scourge of the Throne
- Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
- Spellbound Dragon
- Mana-Charged Dragon
- Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind + Ophidian Eye - classic combo + alternate wincon
- Hellkite Overlord
- Dragon Tyrant
Whew, that's all I've got! Again, this is just my take on what I think is the path of least resistance to victory with a Scion deck that's not as vulnerable to GY hate. GY strats are definitely legit, so feel free to jam all the reanimation + tutors too :D
Hope you found some of this useful :D
6 months ago
Nice deck, it's remarkably like one of mine :) so i have some ideas to throw at you from mine.... Grasp of Fate, Quarantine Field, Infiltrator's Magemark, Aura Gnarlid, Enchantress's Presence, Finest Hour, Kor Spiritdancer, Sram, Senior Edificer, Invisible Stalker, Treachery, Corrupted Conscience, Eidolon of Countless Battles. Here's a link to mine too, I'd love to hear your feedback as well. Happy gathering!
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 6 | 6 COMMENTS | 1110 VIEWS | IN 3 FOLDERS
8 months ago
My cromat deck is more aimed at using charms for shenanigans/control but the odd win condition theme is just as prevalent. Given the access to 5 colors, Door to Nothingness seemed essential; it might not be a win condition but it's more fun and can be recurred with cards like Eternal Witness for more uses.
My favorite win condition in my cromat deck is Scapeshift, I didn't want to invest in an amazing mana base so my deck ramps into the appropriate colors which means that I usually have a good amount of lands in any given game. By the time I get scapeshift in any game, I almost always have 10 lands out which means I can tutor for Maze's End along with 9 guildgates; from here I either win next turn or that moment if Amulet of Vigor is out (which also synergizes with door to nothingness).
Another slight win condition in my deck is just hitting someone for lethal with cromat. With the versatility of charms along with a few cards that improve his offensive ability like Might of the Nephilim, Civic Saber, and Finest Hour it's not hard to one shot someone in a turn, especially if you have excess white and red mana to buff cromat with. I realized that, given how easy it is to get cromat to 20 power, Mayael's Aria actually proved to be a sufficient win condition.