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Swords to Plowshares
Exile target creature. Its controller gains life equal to its power.
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Swords to Plowshares Discussion
16 hours ago
The more cEDH builds, even if they are weakened a little for less competitive play, will probably still have a higher than average win ratios due to their lower mana curves and more focused deck design. But it's also possible for a cEDH deck to get tripped up in other metas due to having to contend with some cards that they normally don't consider an option from a cEDH perspective. I played one game where my opponent kept a sub-optimal hand just because it had Imprisoned in the Moon, which went a long way to hindering my Animar that game.
I think something that may increase a cEDH deck's odds against less competitive decks is that less competitive metas tend to not run as many cheap, instant speed interaction and removal spells, which gives cEDH decks a higher average chance of going off without interruption. But even cEDH decks need to be somewhat wary if the game manages to drag on to the point where everyone has 6+ mana available to them. cEDH decks shine in the early turns, but that advantage drops a bit if the less competitive decks live long enough to play their own flashy spells. I mean, instant speed removal is still instant speed removal, even if its 3 mana for a Beast Within instead of just one mana for a Swords to Plowshares.
22 hours ago
Apologies but Swords to Plowshares is illegal in this deck...
+1 though, consider Palinchron for infinite mana and tokens!
4 days ago
Leonin Shikari is quite good, the "Instant" speed equip means you can move your Infect Grafted Exoskeleton, or Protection Hammer of Nazahn, or Trample Loxodon Warhammer, or Card Advantage Bloodforged Battle-Axe around after blockers are declared to maximize / have favorable outcomes. Along with a Puresteel Paladin he becomes great. To get his Metalcraft working properly you need some other artifacts like Ancient Den, Tree of Tales, Inkmoth Nexus. Since you have Bloodforged Battle-Axe in your build, I would try and work him in, because the Draw ability he offers when you start multiplying the Bloodforged Battle-Axe could be a win-con.
Behemoth Sledge is good, I prefer the offense of the Loxodon Warhammer, the reason I don't run both is redundancy, since I tutor my artifacts, I would rather have more options than duplication/redundancy. However, in a less (equipment) tutor intense build, I like the redundancy as it increases my draw %. Coupled together with the Puresteel Paladin can get it's Equip cost down as well. You have Enlightened Tutor, but with no (creature) tutorable Stonehewer Giant or Stoneforge Mystic, I would run the redundancy since the Trample and Lifelink are both key to your success with Infect.
Taj-Nar Swordsmith is also not a terrible Equipment tutor in a budget scenario. I don't like his CMC but, he is a (Creature) tutorable, and gives an (Equipment) tutor for the Infect Grafted Exoskeleton. Depends how your finding your games going if he is relevant. If others are combo'ing on Turn3-Turn5 he wont have any impact.
Skullclamp is a nice way to avoid creature removal heavy decks, like , can turn your 1 creature that has been Go for the Throat into Card Advantage. It also allows you to turn tokens into Card Advantage, and it's a CMC1 Artifact for Puresteel Paladin Metalcraft and Draw.
If you don't have a budgetary restriction on decks, Lands is definitely where you'll get consistency, things like Temple Garden are pricey, but very good because they are searchable as Forest and Plains and enable other lands like Sunpetal Grove as an example.
Lifecrafter's Bestiary is also a decent budget Selesnya () card. I don't like its CMC3 cost, and it requires to activate, plus this isn't a creature deck. The Scry 1 combined with the Draw, can be effective though.
I use Chord of Calling for my Felidar Sovereign and Archangel of Thune/Spike Feeder combo. It's fairly pricey, but if you have it already, I would run it! You can still use it to pull any other creature, like Lost Leonin too, but usually later in the game they are less effective, than the early tutor/double-strike like Worldly Tutor.
Krosan Vorine is in your mainboard, my mistake. Take him off your Maybeboard.
Fortified Village is still fairly inexpensive, I believe. Good for consistency.
Path to Exile is a little pricey, but it doubles as an Emergency tutor, and it's Exile so VERY powerful.
Rhonas the Indomitable I've found is an awesome tempo guy, ANY cat means that he can Attack, and is indestructible, and is Deathtouch, and can add Trample (or multi-pump an Infect/Trample Cat to win).
Sylvan Library is ridiculously expensive, however, If you aren't under budget constraints, and you can trade for one, it's the BEST card advantage you have in the arsenal.
I'm not a huge fan of Divine Reckoning, it's not going to get rid of the creature that is the REAL problem. It's only Destroy as well. I think, the creature that anyone else keeps is usually better than the creature you keep, except perhaps in an early Lost Leonin or something case.
I also really dislike Hunter's Prowess. If it was Instant, I could deal with it. It's just setting you up for a 2 for 1 situation. Sorcery Cast Hunter's Prowess onto a creature, creature is removed in response with a Swords to Plowshares. You lose #1 The creature (and the offense) #2 Hunter's Prowess is countered. Plus it's CMC5 is really high, He can enable a double-strike or Infect guy for sure, but too high CMC, and too risky for me. Something like Hunter's Insight I'll take the risk on because I know what Blockers look like, and I cast it JUST before the damage assignment step, so yes, he could still be removed in response, but usually at that point they've accepted/arranged the damage and now I get the draw. Personal preference. If it was an Enchantment as well, I would also be ok with it, as a Sorcery, no thanks. That beings said, if you do connect with it, very nice +3 and Trample and Draw, but why CMC5.
I like the Life's Legacy at CMC2. I've added to my Maybeboard, I think it needs to go into my deck as well. Eminence a Cat, Attack with Cat, Sacrifice Cat (As part of the cost, so no way to remove the creature in response to counter the spell), also no targeting. It's pretty good, CMC2 for 4+ card advantage. I like it. Without a creature it's not that great, but hopefully, have a Token cat or something to use. Excellent budget card.
Not the biggest fan of Myriad Landscape. i could live with it if it didn't enter the battlefield tapped. Because it enters tapped, it's going to hinder me more times that it's ramp will help me.
Oreskos Explorer is good, but I don't like that he is and only pulls more , and is conditional on ETB without Flash. I think he can, in multi-player pods, potentially pull you some Plains, but later in the game unless you're playing other ramp, you'll have more lands that everyone. Everyone else just using Mana Crypt and the sort to ramp without . I don't like that he doesn't mana fix and is useless late game. I wouldn't run him.
Rishkar's Expertise is also too high CMC and too conditional for my liking. To properly utilize it, I need 1) CMC6, 2) A decent size creature with Eminence 3) That creature in 2 isn't removed in response (I know it doesn't target, but if i have a 6/6 (eminence) and a 1/1 lifelink token, if they remove the 6/6 in response, I only draw 1 even though the spell isn't countered) 4) I have or draw into a card that is CMC5 that makes sense to cast right now. If any of these things aren't there, it's a dead draw to me.
Stalking Leonin is ok, he's 3/3 for CMC3. The selection process feels bizarre/strange/uncomfortable to me. His ability is an activated ability "reveal the player", so if he dies, then all you've gotten is a 3/3 for CMC3. He can only exile a creature that "attacking you", so he can't protect planeswalkers, and he can only remove attacking creatures. The creatures you really want to exile RARELY attack. I would rather have a different creature that provide immediate ETB or Static ability that is not conditional. But that's just me, not a fan of him, which I originally thought I would be when I saw him in the Spoilers.
I love Terminus one of my favorite cards. In Selesnya () there's no efficient way to put it back ontop of the deck, so it's Miracle is going to be a little hit and miss randomness, but it's still good. Gets around hexproof, shroud, indestructible, etc.
Did you get a Vivien Reid in your pre-release play? He doesn't really synergize with Arahbo, Roar of the World.1) His CMC5 is quite high for a planeswalker 2) It's not a creature heavy/win-con based deck, so he's not going to consistently draw a card for his +1, unless you put some Scry mechanics in the deck (please don't) 3) Unless you need more destroy Artifact/Enchantment/Flying in your pod, CMC5 is way to much for that. 4) even if you destroy for CMC5, then +1 (no draw), then Destroy again, it's so much CMC and so many turns, too kludgy. 5) Not being a creature win-con heavy deck, the ultimate doesn't direclty represent a win-con for you, it's good, but not a win-con level ultimate. I would make better arguments for CMC6 Ajani Unyielding or CMC4 Elspeth, Knight-Errant or CMC4 Ajani, Adversary of Tyrants.
Some others have argued to me that Felidar Cub is a good tempo guy, who "locks down" opponents from casting powerful enchantments until they can deal with him, in that analysis he is good because he's preventing casts. I tried him, I haven't seen enough, I prefer guys like Leonin Relic-Warder that offer solutions without having to die, but thought I would mention him anyway.
Revoke Existence is not bad, with it was Instant speed. I'm not sure you want to be the one controlling Artifact/Enchantment. CMC2 for Exile and Modularity is good though, can't argue to take it out, just not sure what Artifact/Enchantment you're worried about that will change/disrupt your plans?
The deck looks pretty solid, I'd be surprised if you weren't Turn 3/4 Infect killing with a Lost Leonin + Eminence + Ajani, Caller of the Pride/Berserk/Silverblade Paladin/etc. at least once in a while?? or pulling a Triumph of the Hordes and Trample/Infect killing.
Always tutor Lost Leonin if they don't have an immediate response he is a win-con with Eminence. I've killed with him without doublestrike quite often, just having 2 connected hits. Cast a blocker, I'll gladly Swords to Plowshares + Eminence hit you a couple turns.
How has the deck been going, you must be having some success? Arahbo, Roar of the World is a Tier 4 commander, and with an Under $200 deck, I'm sure your not competing consistenly vs. Tier 1 commanders like Kess, Dissident Mage or Zur the Enchanter or anything, but on occasion (because of the early creature tutor for Lost Leonin and the concentration of Double-strike enables, you MUST be contacting.)
I just did some very quick (5 games) testing, Turn 7 was the worst for lethal damage, Turn 4 the best. It's not bad for a under $200 commander. Takes time to learn how to play it, tutor. Like Congregation at Dawn is Lost Leonin/Silverblade Paladin so you can infect + eminence + doublestrike in 2 turns (as an example).
Just some of my opinions anyway! Very nice build, +1. Cheers.
4 days ago
Okay, I would suggest you try to make the deck as consistent as possible, while also having a lot of interaction. Given your manabase being split between four colors, effects such as Counterspell are a bit hard to cast. Countermagic though should be run. Arcane Denial is a card I recommend, as it generally doesn't draw too much hate, doesn't cost double , and replaces itself as a card.
This is the type of logic I implore you to use when deciding the power level of cards. I assume you have the same dilemma most have when deck building of card attachment. Because of this, I will give you a list of cards I would drop in the list, for more powerful interaction, ramp, and card draw.
Here we go:
Citadel Siege - This is a +1/+1 counter deck, and this puts +1/+1 counters on your creatures, it makes sense why it is run, but you have so many effects in this nature, that this card I don't think makes the cut. This deck has a lot of creatures, and this card doesn't put a +1/+1 on up to two creatures, both of which could be proliferated later, instead it only puts two on one creature. I don't hink it is worth 5 mana.
Brave the Elements - Vigilance is a good ability, but for a 2 mana enchantment, this would have to do much more than this to be worth it in my opinion. Dropping it for more ramp allows you to be more aggressive, and get your opponents on the defensive, rather than you having to defend yourself.
Duneblast - Cool card, yes, but in this deck I don't think saving one of your creatures is worth a whopping 3 more mana and an extra color symbol than Day of Judgment or a similar effect. I personally would rather see Languish in this deck, as it can kill most creatures, while your generally are larger, or Black Sun's Zenith, which puts -1/-1 counters on your opponents' creatures you can proliferate over time.
Disdainful Stroke - Okay, this next part might get into a bit of math, but here is why Disdainful Stroke is nearly strictly worse than Arcane Denial, and it has to do with card advantage. If Disdainful Stroke was a Counterspell for just a , I would still run Arcane Denial over it. An effect like Disdainful Stroke leaves you down a card, and your opponent down a card, with two other opponents up a card. Since Arcane Denial replaces itself, and give two card to an opponent, at the cost of one, you are only down a card to one opponent, instead of two.
2-4 lands - A deck of this CMC normally needs only 35-37 lands to get all of their spells cast on time. I don't have the statistics on me right now, so trust me or not, but that has been my experience and the experience of many others.
Okay, so what should you add in? I would run more counterspells, like Delay, Mana Leak, Swan Song, or anything you want to run for versatility like Unsubstantiate or Supreme Will. Removal like Swords to Plowshares, Chain of Vapor, Beast Within, or Aura of Silence can also be useful, as well as card draw like Windfall, Brainstorm, Ponder, or Preordain. The creature base seems fine, I suggest a Sunscorch Regent because it is insanely fun, but otherwise keep it up!
Oh yeah, you wonder what to do against Inalla, Archmage Ritualist? Torpor Orb, Tocatli Honor Guard, and Hushwing Gryff shut them down efficiently, also they only hurt 6 of your cards, being Prime Speaker Zegana's draw ability, Juniper Order Ranger, Elite Scaleguard's bolster ability, Armorcraft Judge, and a couple creature's evolve ability. The reason effects such as Fertilid's enter the battlefield with two +1/+1 counter ability or similar abilities across your deck is due to them not being triggered abilities. They happen 'as' the creature enters, instead of immediately after. It is a little weird.
Against graveyard decks, consider Relic of Progenitus, Leyline of the Void, Rest in Peace, Grafdigger's Cage, and Ground Seal. They are pretty self explanatory, but run the ones you want to, all have ups and downs. For instance, though you may know that tokens disappear if they leave the battlefield, they still go to the graveyard when they die, immediately after they disappear, which is why effects like Deathgreeter trigger when 3 tokens die. This means Leyline of the Void won't stop Deathgreeter gaining life when tokens die, but Rest in Peace will. Differences like this are minor, but may make you decide between different forms of graveyard hate.
4 days ago
Kai-Erik, while Minamo, School at Water's Edge is tempting, this is a deck that rarely needs to untap Chromium, as that would generally imply blocking. This deck doesn't need to block, being an aggressive deck with lifegain. It also doesn't fix mana for the deck, leading to a lack of usability. Batterskull is an equipment, and equipments do not synergize with the Traumatize/Tunnel Vision + Retether/Replenish plan this deck is on. Hammer of Nazahn has the same issue. This isn't a normal voltron build, it is specifically an aura-based mass-recursion deck, with use of a powerful, protected commander to deal out unblockable, lethal damage with surprising swiftness. Equipments don't help here.
cthompson, the issue with Bruna, is her lack of protection, leading to blowouts where you drop 10+ enchantments on her, and they all are swiftly destroyed with a simple Swords to Plowshares or Rapid Hybridization effect. Since Chromium, the Mutable has a ton of built in protection, this deck doesn't have many enchantments that would fufill that role, needed to make use of Bruna. If we were to run more hexproof/shroud enablers, and more ways of givving unblockable, she could serve a purpose as a back-up Chromium, the Mutable, with built in recursion.
4 days ago
I believe the general use of Gilded Drake is to remove a creature for a turn or two. Before it gets destroyed or bounced and recast from whatever zone the creature is in. Reflector Mage is only one mana more, and stops them from casting it for a turn, so does what Gilded Drake commonly does anyway. Willbreaker has good synergy with Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, but as it isn't an ETB effect, as you move to combat, or move to cast Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, it can be removed with a Swords to Plowshares and do nothing, Gilded Drake and Reflector Mage don't have these problems.
I understand your rational against midrange, but generally against creature builds, plopping down a Retribution of the Meek can win the game. Only Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and Archon of Valor's Reach get hit by the sweeper, and if you have Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite, you probably don't have a problem. Retribution of the Meek generally stops larger creatures, as 4 power is right about the threshold for the midrangey builds. It isn't any free win like Willbreaker, but it does have an immmediate effect, that you don't have to wait for, is 'cheaper' (unless Thorn of Amethyst effects are about), and is easier to cast, being one white devotion in comparison to double blue.
5 days ago
First of all, I really like Spirts and I've built a very similar deck that I've had success with.
So I'm going to make some initial suggestions with explanations. My advice is coming from playtesting this deck for months and months. That being said, it is YOUR deck so feel free to play however you like!
What I believe you should take out:
Here's what I think you should add:
And here are my reasons why:
You want to cut down on Auras. Drawing an Aura without having a creature to equip it to feels really bad, it's a dead card. This deck should be creature-focused, all about beating your opponent down with Flying spirits occasionally buffed up with Auras; not the other way around.
Sovereigns of Lost Alara is a great card, but most opponents won't let you survive until you have 6 mana. This deck wants to end things very, very quickly. A Geist of Saint Traft equipped with Steel of the Godhead is a very fast clock, you really don't need to go to turn 6.
Without the Sovereigns, Eldrazi Conscription is also pointless.
Daybreak Coronet is a great card, but unfortunately it cannot be searched by Tallowisp's effect. There is a ruling that states Tallowisp can only search for cards that say "Enchant Creature" on their first line with no other words in that same line (so things like Steel of the Godhead are fine). But Daybreak Coronet says "Enchant creature with..." so unfortunately it cannot be searched.
You liked having the option to stall the game with Kaijin of the Vanishing Touch and Ghostly Possession, well let me tell you about Selfless Spirit and Gift of Immortality. Selfless Spirit can sacrifice itself at any time to give your whole team indestructible, so they can freely block any creature or survive damage or destruction. It's a great effect, but a Selfless Spirit enchanted with Gift of Immortality can do this EVERY TURN and there's very little your opponent can do to get out of this lock. I'd highly recommend this change above all others I've listed.
Swords to Plowshares because you need some reliable removal in case you run into a creature that's just giving you a lot of trouble.
Curious Obsession keeps your hand filled; the last thing you want is to run out of steam.
I'd recommend exchanging 1 Drogskol Captain for another Spell Queller. Once you have a Steel-enchanged Geist on the field, you should try to save mana for Spell Queller, because your opponent might try to kill it with a mass removal spell like Supreme Verdict. You need to be able to stop things like that with Spell Queller.
Feel free to look at my deck here: Immortal Geist
I've written some pretty detailed stuff so you can get a good understanding of the deck.
As for your sideboard, I'll take a look at the Legacy metagame and get back to you, but good luck with your deck!
5 days ago
I also think you have too many lands, and will probably be flooded more often than you want to be... I'd stick with less lands and more mana rocks.
Broken Fall also seems like just a much worse Asceticism...
Also Stalking Vengeance seems INSANE with evoke costs...
Sorry I know that was a lot.