Creature — Chimera
Whenever you draw a card, you gain 1 life.
|Want (2)||Crazygamer0425 , Ghanbury|
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|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
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- Horizon Chimera + Kestia, the Cultivator
- Archangel of Thune + Fathom Mage + Horizon Chimera
- Archangel of Thune + Horizon Chimera + Sphinx's Revelation
- Horizon Chimera + Sphinx's Revelation
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Horizon Chimera occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Horizon Chimera Discussion
2 months ago
As I said that I would, I have removed two copies of each of Horizon Chimera, Overbeing of Myth, Trygon Predator, and Winged Coatl, as well as two lands, which reduced this deck to 60 cards and also reduced its average converted mana cost from 3.30 to 3.19, which is obviously a very good thing.
2 months ago
The next deck that I wish to discuss is named Fire and Ice. As with the previous decks, I shall remove two lands from it, which leaves me with eight more cards that I need to remove. I likely shall remove two copies each of Dominus of Fealty and Hypersonic Dragon, due to their high mana costs; Mindwrack Liege is more expensive than are they, but it is too good to not have four copies of it in this deck.
I am contemplating if I should remove either Jhoira of the Ghitu or Keranos, God of Storms from that deck, as they are both awesome creatures, but I do need to reduce the number of cards in this deck. Lightning Bolt is also an awesome card, but it is the least essential card in this deck, unfortunately, so I likely shall not keep it. However, if I do remove it, will there be a sufficient number of non-land spells to trigger the prowess ability of Stormchaser Mage? If not, I shall replace that card with Lightning Stormkin.
I also have a blue/green deck named Artificial Evolution, from which I also plan to remove two lands, leaving eight non-land cards that need to be removed. I likely shall remove two copies of Trygon Predator, because, as great as that card is, it is unlikely that my opponents shall have a sufficient number of artifacts or enchantment for it to be necessary for me to have four copies in this deck, as well as two copies of Horizon Chimera, because the lifegain from that card is largely negligible, but flash, flying, and trample are all excellent abilities, so two copies may remain. As good as Winged Coatl is, I still need to remove cards from this deck, so I shall likely remove two copies of it, as well.
Edric, Spymaster of Trest, Maraleaf Pixie, Murkfiend Liege, and Prophet of Kruphix are all too amazing to remove, but Overbeing of Myth is disposable, as tragic as that may be, so I likely shall remove it, as well.
What does everyone else say about these two decks? What cards should I remove from them to reduce them each to 60 cards?
3 months ago
As for wincons, the primary one is milling yourself and then using Jace, Wielder of Mysteries or Thassa's Oracle. I chose these rather than Laboratory Maniac because they are more resilient. You'll notice we don't run that much interaction, so we want to be able to win and not have that win threatened. Of the two, I prefer Thassa's Oracle more since the win condition is an ability so it doesn't matter if it gets destroyed. The trouble with lab man or jace is that if it gets removed and you go to draw that last (nonexistant) card, you lose instead, so Thassa's Oracle provides that resiliency. And then I chose Jace for the same reason because planeswalkers are typically harder to get rid of. Also both oracle and Jace are what I like to call "self-contained wincons" meaning that they come down and you win assuming you meet the conditions without having to do anything else.
There is one other alternative hard wincon in the deck if the self mill strategy isn't viable, and three soft wincons if it gets to that point. Generally, the soft wincons are designed as ways to lock down the game and stall out until you can get one of the hard wincons to actually win the game.
The alternative hard wincon is a Lifegain + Aetherflux Reservoir strategy. Uro gains us a ton of life, so why not capitalize on this with other lifegain spells? Horizon Chimera, Skola Grovedancer, Tatyova, Benthic Druid, The Great Henge, Shadowspear, etc, function as a lifegain package to pad our life total because people will definitely be attacking us. This buys us time to find responses or to outright win. It also helps you pay for Glacial Chasm's cumulative upkeep cost to prevent those attacks outright. Finally, in long and grindy games, we can simply use our massively inflated life total to blow out opponents with the deathstar that is Aetherflux Reservoir, which itself also functions as a lifegain engine. Plus, all of this lifegain is doubled by Alhammarret's Archive, which is just nutty. Piloting the deck, I've managed to gain 110+ life in one turn so it's definitely a viable strategy.
Onto the soft wincons:
The first soft wincon is to take infinite turns with Nexus of Fate. So the way this works is that with the self-mill we're doing, our deck gets pretty thin. Basically, at some point, if we've milled out successfully, Nexus of Fate will be the only card left in our library which means we draw it every turn since it shuffles itself back into the library if it would hit the graveyard as a replacement effect. This has the bonus of preventing us from milling out since then we always have a card to potentially draw whenever we need to at that point. However, not that this isn't a wincon by itself, which is why it's called a soft wincon, but it does mean you have all the time in the world to find a way to get one of the hard wincons out. Basically the play is to cast Nexus of Fate, pass turn to yourself, and then use the upkeep Genesis trigger from Genesis being in your graveyard to get back Thassa's Oracle for the win. Alternatively, you can just take infinite turns and force everyone else to concede if you absolutely can't win.
The next soft wincon is a little complicated, but basically it's a loop involving Peregrine Drake, Deadeye Navigator, and either Words of Wind + Uro or Panharmonicon + Venser, Shaper Savant to force your opponents to bounce all their permanents, including lands. At that point, most of them will choose to concede the game because they have no permanents or land. If not, you can keep looping, but to draw cards instead to get one of the other wincons to win the game outright. Here's how the loops work:
1) Words of Wind + Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath To start, you make infinite colored mana with the Peregrine Drake/Deadeye Navigator combo, and then cast Uro, or flicker it with deadeye if Uro is already on the field. With Uro's abilities on the stack, you pay 1 mana into Words of Wind to replace your next draw with forcing every player to bounce a permanent. Obviously, you choose to bounce Uro to your hand. With infinite mana, you keep looping this gaining life each time while forcing your opponents to bounce all of their permanents, including lands. At that point, if they dont concede, you can draw cards by not using Words of Wind and having uro sac himself to the command zone. From there, you dig for either Aetherflux Reservoir or Thassa's Oracle or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries to actually win the game.
2) Panharmonicon + Venser, Shaper Savant For this loop, a Panharmonicon is not required, but makes it easier to do because of the double ETB triggers. First, we begin like previous making infinite mana with Peregrine Drake/Deadeye Navigator. This lets us cast Venser, Shaper Savant. And we target an opponent's permanent to bounce to their hand. If you don't have Panharmonicon, you pair venser with Deadeye Navigator, and use deadeye's flicker ability to keep flickering venser ad nauseum until all your opponents permanents (including lands) are bounced to their hand. At that point, if they don't concede, you can use venser to bounce uro to your hand or use infinite mana to cast him and flicker him to draw cards until you find Aetherflux Reservoir or Thassa's Oracle or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries to actually win the game. Panharmonicon just makes the loop more efficient because you can target two of your opponents' things at once.
The one thing to note with these loops is that you should be careful not to overdraw though, because Guardian Project and The Great Henge are all mandatory draw effects that trigger when a creature enters the field.
Finally, the last soft wincon is Finale of Devastation. I call it soft because the deck really isn't designed to go aggro and attack with its creatures. But basically, if you have a lot of creatures and find an opportunity, you can use a really big finale to finish off the last few players at the table maybe after you used Aetherflux Reservoir to take out a few other players. The finale is honestly just there as a creature tutor with access to both your deck and graveyard.
Overall, the deck is really resilient because you really don't care too much about what your opponents are doing, you just want to mill yourself and gain life to either win off of Thassa's Oracle/Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, or by deathstaring everyone via Aetherflux Reservoir.
Hope this helps, and feel free to let me know if you have any thoughts or suggestions! ^_^
6 months ago
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I did look at a lot of those when building it but unfortunately I couldn’t justify paying for them.thats over $125 on 10 cards :(
I agree that they would all be very good additions.
Horizon Chimera could be cut definitely and I do have a crop rotation so could swap those.
I’ll have a look at some of the cheaper the cards from M20 and Throne, I haven’t really looked at those sets in general tbh.
6 months ago
I agree with IAmTheWraith's comment about lifegain. Something like Lotus Cobra would be much better than Horizon Chimera , if you can afford to pick one up. Summer Bloom is another solid land drop card that I have found to be quite useful. If you really want to turn your playgroup on their heads, consider running Sunder .
8 months ago
Vilis has tons of great synergies imo though. I kind of feel like he's being underlooked at the moment. I think people are picking up on him, but for a little while you could scoop him up for $0.50.
Also a big fan of how he interacts with Lich's Mastery .
He's a great card that can do a lot of crazy things imo.