Forbidden Orchard

Forbidden Orchard

Land

: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

Whenever you tap Forbidden Orchard for mana, target opponent creates a 1/1 colourless Spirit creature token.

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Forbidden Orchard Discussion

RNR_Gaming on Slivers

1 week ago

My girlfriend just asked me to put Slivers back together. Anyways, as far as the land base goes I'm gunna list. Things out by cost/relevancy

duals I know eww reserved list but if you got em or can proxy em play em

Tundra, Plateau, Tropical Island, Volcanic Island, Bayou, Badlands, Scrubland, Savannah, Underground Sea, and Taiga

fetches they're getting their reprint in modern horizons 2 but still stupid expensive - but the fixing is just so good!

Flooded Strand, Polluted Delta, Scalding Tarn, Misty Rainforest, Prismatic Vista, Verdant Catacombs, Wooded Foothills, Bloodstained Mire, Windswept Heath, Marsh Flats and Arid Mesa

Utopia lands

Reflecting Pool, Cavern of Souls, City of Brass, Tarnished Citadel, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, Exotic Orchard, Meteor Crater, Pillar of the Paruns, Ancient Ziggurat, Path of Ancestry, Thran Quarry, Gemstone Mine, Aether Hub and Tendo Ice Bridge

I'm not a mega fan of the depletion lands but they're excellent if you're on a budget :)

shocks - you already got a few I'll recommend getting the rest

Blood Crypt, Temple Garden, Godless Shrine, Steam Vents and Sacred Foundry

Utility lands very overpriced cardboard but the power is definitely there

Mutavault, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Gaea's Cradle

From there, if those cards are out of budget/you cannot proxy I'd go with the Triomes, battlebond lands Sea of Clouds, check lands Hinterland Harbor, and lastly the painlands Battlefield Forge beyond those the lands start becoming too inefficient and you will be targeted playing slivers. Even if you're not the threat having a slow land base is a death sentence. Hope this helped :)

Feiryn on Here there be DRAGONS!

2 weeks ago

I'd say all of the lands you listed except for Maze of Ith. Fetchlands and shocklands are the best thing you can do your for landbase outside of the original duals (which are hundreds each). In a 5-colour deck you're already limited on how many types of lands you can have, and Maze of Ith doesn't do much notable for a deck like this IMO. If you're going this deep into expensive lands and tutors, I highly recommend picking up a Mana Confluence, City of Brass, and Forbidden Orchard. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is an auto-include in any 2+ colour deck that features Black and can be tapped for Black itself. Ancient Tomb is amazing in decks with lots of colourless requirements like this. Prismatic Vista is very good too though less on the priority list for its price.

If you're going to be investing a lot into lands, make sure you make a faux list before buying anything since you don't want to get excess that you won't use. My personal general priority for 5-colour (ignoring OG duals) goes:

Rainbow (Command Tower/City of Brass/Mana Confluence/Forbidden Orchard), fetchlands (Arid Mesa/Prismatic Vista), shocklands (Hallowed Fountain), bondlands (Spire Garden), basics.

Assuming you take just what I listed there that puts you at 30 lands (minus basics). That gives you room for cards like Cavern of Souls, Reflecting Pool, Exotic Orchard, etc. Of course it totally comes down to how much you want to sink into your landbase, but it's a good place to start before tweaking things to your preference. You should keep at least one of each basic, or at least your main colours' basics for backup fetching. Battlelands like Sunken Hollow lose value the more you optimized your landbase due to lack of backs but are still good to take over say, bondlands. Since you already have them they'll do fine while also having the bonus of being tutored out by fetchlands.

Now that the wall of land-related text is over, time for the other cards you listed. Demonic Tutor is top tier, definitely get it if you have the money. Also look at Vampiric Tutor and Worldly Tutor. I personally like Dromoka, the Eternal, Kaalia of the Vast you already know how I recommend it, and Nesting Dragon is decent as a card but I don't think it'd work well here since you don't have a way to easily pop the eggs yourself. Future Sight is okay but I personally wouldn't run it in Ur-Dragon. Herald's Horn and Urza's Incubator I personally just take more mana rocks over but in your slower meta they could be decent picks. Mirari's Wake is amazing, and Nature's Lore you already know.

Since you're going this much into the deep end, once you get everything else set up first there's always the $$$$$ rocks like Mana Crypt, Mana Vault, Chrome Mox, and god forbid Mox Diamond waiting for you. Just, you know, they're worth entire decks alone so only go for them once you're fully satisfied on the rest of the deck lmfao

As for Force of Vigor I'd personally just cut Kilnmouth Dragon for it. Kilnmouth costs way too much mana for its effect when it'll generally have no counters, or at most 1-2 batches on it.

DemMeowsephs on The Real - Kess, Graveshift Mage

1 month ago

Hey there! Maybe consider these lands.

Fast lands are relatively cheap, and still good in the early game. Darkslick Shores, Blackcleave Cliffs, and Spirebluff Canal. I would also recommend adding the rest of the filter lands, (Cascade Bluffs and Sunken Ruins) as well as the other fetch lands (if you have the budget) and pain lands. (Polluted Delta/Scalding Tarn and Sulfurous Springs/Underground River). You also might like some of the following, though some are a bit expensive.

CaptCreek on Kenrith's Campaign

1 month ago

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Well, if budget is taken out of the picture...

Mana Crypt goes in for sure. Fast mana is incredibly important to get Kenrith out as fast as possible. Arcane Signet too even though it's pretty accessible.

You can also replace the cheaper mana dorks with the higher end ones like Noble Hierarch and Bloom Tender. They're expensive for a reason, and are very nice options.

Cyclonic Rift is an obvious inclusion as it clears off the board, and Sylvan Library should be in the list as well since it's very reliable draw.

Tutors are also very important to increase consistency. Basically any of the Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor and the like will make it much easier to get the exact answers you want.

Your mana base is also very important here. All the fetch lands (or OG duals if you really like to spend money, though you can absolutely get by without them) can go in to make it much easier to get your colors online quickly. Lands that tap for any color are also good, like Forbidden Orchard and City of Brass.

If you want to go more competitive/combo focused, Dockside Extortionist, Emiel the Blessed, Demonic Consultation, and Thassa's Oracle should also be on your radar. Emiel can go infinite with Dockside to make infinite mana, and to be honest any infinite mana combo is good enough, so you can run multiple for consistency. Consultation and Oracle are popular wincons in CEDH, and I'd advise you to look at how the combo works if that's the direction you want to go.

Assassin's Trophy is effective and cheap mana cost wise, and any of the good expensive counter spells like Force of Will will also do good work.

I also forgot to mention Training Grounds as it is also amazing here.

That's what I could think of off the top of my head, but I hope that helps you out a little!

DemMeowsephs on Go Not Into Dark Woods

1 month ago

Hey there! One way to strengthen and upgrade your deck is through your mana base! Maybe consider some of the following lands!

If this helps be sure to check out some of my decks, (Double Trouble EDH *PRIMER*), give me suggestions if you have and support it if you like it- I'd appreciate it! Anyways though, good luck on your deck, hope this helps, and have a great day! Happy tapping!!!

xram666 on Neyith's Rampage

1 month ago

If you want to give the opponent creature here are some suggestions:

First of all the hunted creatures:

Furthermore:

DemMeowsephs on Dad Said It's My Turn to Play with the Lifegain

1 month ago

Hey there! Maybe consider some of the following for your manabase

DemMeowsephs on Arixmethes: Draw your deck

1 month ago

Hey there! I would recommend more ramp and some different lands! Maybe some of the following can be of use to you?

In the end let me know what you think! Did I miss anything? Or if you have any questions for me or want further help feel free to ask I'd love to help! If this does help be sure to check and support some of my decks: Double Trouble EDH, A Deal With the Devil EDH, and many others! Anyways though, hope this helps, good luck on your deck, and have a great day!!! Happy tapping!

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