Flood of Tears
Return all nonland permanents to their owners' hands. If you return four or more nontoken permanents you control this way, you may put a permanent card from your hand onto the battlefield.
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|Core Set 2020 (M20)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Flood of Tears Discussion
1 week ago
An interesting combo that I ran across at one point involves these two cards: Flood of Tears and Omniscience. It's quite elegant, really. You play flood of tears after playing four permanents (for instance, a ramp package of Arboreal Grazer and Gift of Paradise to play Flood of Tears earlier). You wipe the board, then Flood of Tears allows you to Place a permanent onto the board, which of course is going to be Omniscience. Then you play out your entire hand while your opponent's board has nothing. Kudos to you if you happen to have a Song of Creation in your hand as well.
3 weeks ago
DemonDragonJ - I think there are a few reasons why they switched from Allies to the Party mechanic. 1) The war with the eldrazi is over so there is no longer a need for an alliance among the denizens of Zendikar, 2) WoTC is releasing some sort of D&D-MTG crossover set next year so my guess is they are laying groundwork for that set, and 3) the set was supposed to return to Zendikar's original exploration roots, so having a party of adventurers fits thematically (in my opinion).
Has anyone seen the new Ashaya (or I guess the only non-token version of Ashaya)? Holy crap! She is going into each and every one of my green EDH decks. Now I can just laugh when someone tries to wipe my board with a blue spell. Let's take a moment to consider what she stops: River's Rebuke, Flood of Tears, Devastation Tide, Crush of Tentacles, mother-freaking-Cyclonic Rift, and most blue single target bounce spells.
4 weeks ago
We talked about it a bit earlier, but Leonin Warleader is a good include here. I think it's more threatening than Brimaz. I see Impact Tremors, so It would be intersting to kinda steer the deck in a token build. Docent of Perfection Flip can help get the party started. There are also gobo spells you can cast daddy Vadrok, like Hordeling Outburst to help fuel your army.
One thing I noticed is that there aren't a whole lot of pump effects for a voltron subtheme commander outside of double strike type cards. Might be cool to add Brute Force, Infuriate, and low cost buff spells. If that style sounds cool you can add in Feather, the Redeemed for more ways to get your spells back and if you lean towards token theme adding Zada, Hedron Grinder will really scare the table!
As for potential cuts, I think Archipelagore can probably take a seat. High mana cost with a bit of a low effect. How often will you mutate ove 2 creatures. Fling seems a bit out of place. I can't imagine wanting to sacrifice a mutate pile.
Focusing on your commander's ability and bouncing to recast it will be much cheaper and have a greater impact in game. Blistercoil Weird, Kiln Fiend and Spellgorger Weird could also be some cool potential targets to mutate onto. Flood of Tears can clear the board and let you put down a mutate target.
2 months ago
I was looking through tapped out for a budged deck yesterday and this is the one that I decided on using. I didn't have all of the cards you used but I was able to fill it in with cards lying around that were out of the super budget stuff lying around and the rest of the empty slots I was able to get for a under $10, very happy with the concept here.
One thing that new players should note, which I assume budget decks attract, is that if you flicker a creature (i.e. use a spell such as Turn to Mist on it), the spell you cast to make the creature flicker will still be on the stack when the creature's enter the battlefield trigger has to choose something. So for instance, when you cast Turn to Mist on Archaeomancer, you cannot choose to immediatly return Turn to Mist to your hand, it has to be something already in your graveyard.
Some alternative budget suggestions anyone reading this list might want to consider, if they already have them for example, are:
Pierce Strider can fill the same role that the chalice fills while still using the same flicker cards that the infinite mana generator uses.
Stern Proctor is some light artifact/enchantment hate. This deck seemed to be very light on artifact hate, so it needs something. Once you have infinite mana it might also be used to bounce your own Chalice/Strider to hand for victory.
Skyscanner is half a Mulldrifter for 3 mana, not a bad pick.
Think Twice is an alright draw card that Scrivener can get back or can be used in response to grave hate.
Pondering Mage is a decent effect with a 3/4 body.
Jester's Scepter could be put in as a second chalice: just flicker it a bunch and exile your opponent's libraries.
Azorius Chancery is a tap land and I generally don't encourage these, but if you are going for infinite mana combo via untapping lands, it can't hurt to had lands which can make extra mana. Also consider Temple of the False God if you take this route.
Sunscorched Desert can in fact win if the Chalice route is used since Ghostly Flicker is able to target lands.
Engulf the Shore is a decent boardwipe that could also be used to return your own creatures to your hand for value.
Time Wipe is a good boardwipe, especially if you are able to say, bounce something to recur your Breath of Life.
Sapphire Charm is also a second avenue to win the game via decking our your opponents. You choose the first mode and they get 100 or so draw 1 triggers during the next player's turn. Since the charm is an instant, it makes it possible to do the flicker combo on the end step before your turn so that, hopefully, your opponents have used up enough mana so that they can't do anything with the cards they draw on your upkeep; the draw triggers are one at a time so the opponents could respond to each one.
Also here are some upgrade suggestions of cards that are currently $2 or less, these are some of the cards I had lying around, for people willing to spend a bit more:
Library of Leng since you have the potential to draw a lot of cards in this deck, it's always nice to not worry about discarding them.
Star Compass this common is annoyingly expensive for it's effect: probably due to the diamond cycle being about double the price.
Flood of Tears isn't too bad since you get an etb right away. The next three should be considered as a unit:
High Tide can make the Drake produce 10 mana when it untaps only 5 lands.
Capsize will let you make infinite mana off of the Drake if you have at least 2 islands out and have cast high tide.
Cloud of Faeries is something that might work to combo off with if you are able to cast high tide multiple times in one turn. That's just a consideration here since I have yet to play test this deck against real players.
3 months ago
I'd recommend adding at least one board wipe, obvi Cyclonic Rift is the best in these colors, but there are plenty of good options if you're not trying to spend all that money. Flood of Tears, Evacuation, Aether Gale, or AEtherize if you're in a meta with someone who likes to attack.
Beyond that I would just recommend adding dual lands to smooth things out. I playtested a bit, and I found myself struggling with having the right colors of mana with just basics. I'd start with adding Sulfur Falls, Hinterland Harbor and Rootbound Crag given the number of basics you're running. I'd also recommend the Pain lands Shivan Reef, Yavimaya Coast, and Karplusan Forest. Fabled Passage would also be good as the price has dropped as of this comment (though is still a little pricey), and maybe test adding Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse.
3 months ago
My biggest tip for you would be to find your "Win Condition". You have a split right now between random artifacts and cards that care about artifacts/ artifact creatures with no clear singular way to win. You should hone in on what your favorite thing to do when you play this deck, or magic in general, is. Do you like making a bunch of thopters and swinging in for damage? Do you like casting a bunch of artifacts that do useful things? Secondly, you have a few artifacts that don't do anything to help you win Tower of Eons is an example. It takes 12 mana to gain 10 life, and in red and blue you can do a lot more for 12 mana! Tamiyo's Journal takes 5 mana and 3 turns to find a card for you, you have access to way better stuff! Trinket Mage Trophy Mage Gamble there are a ton of options that are more efficient ways to find something specific, and what specific thing should you be looking for? Your win condition! The card that is going to help you win, help set up your win, or keep your opponent from winning. Thirdly, playing blue, you have access to a lot of efficient card draw and counter spells! After taking out what you don't need in your deck, you should add more card draw and more "Answers". "Answers" are cards that help you deal, or "Answer" anything your opponent plays. Counter spells can handle most stuff, put you need to keep mana open on his turn and they don't do anything once he actually has something on the field. I suggest having 10 or more "answers" and this can include things like Blink of an Eye or River's Rebuke or Flood of Tears that bounce things or Rolling Earthquake or Vandalblast that can straight up destroy things. Try to balance things that can remove single target and things that handle the whole board, and some counter spells! When adding card draw, try to get bang for your buck. Opt is a 1 for 1, it doesn't fill your hand or really help you draw more cards than your opponent. Card draw is a big rabbit hole, but both blue and red have decent options, especially when combined. I suggest Jhoira, Weatherlight Captain as an easy include, and possibly a new commander, depending on what you choose for you win condition.
Welcome to magic and good luck! It sounds like you play 1 vs 1 games, so build your deck with that in mind! After they reopen, I suggest you and your bf head to your local game store because commander is way more fun with 4 players in my opinion!