: The next time an unblocked creature of your choice would deal combat damage to you this turn, prevent all but 1 of that damage.
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1 week ago
The subject of this thread revolves around dealing with and counteracting against the commanders: Uril, the Miststalker, Sigarda, Host of Herons, Dragonlord Ojutai, Lazav, Dimir Mastermind, Thrun, the Last Troll as well as commanders that consistently or typically give themselves hexproof through various equipments/auras.
While it may not be the most prevalent strategy these types of commanders can be annoying to deal with. I'd like to create a discussion on what are the best ways to deal with these commanders. Given how niche these commanders can be, running cards that exclusively dedicate themselves to their removal may be detrimental to draw into when playing a game where none of your opponents run them. Therefore cards that can both combat massive hexproof creatures as well as still being useful to have if none of your opponents are playing with big hexproof creatures should be taken into consideration when deciding what is the "best" or "most practical" solution to combating hexproof strategies.
The first cards that come to mind are Arcane Lighthouse, Detection Tower, Bonds of Mortality, Shadowspear and Glaring Spotlight. These cards entirely dedicate themselves to combating hexproof strategies, and while this may be a detriment when used against non-hexproof strategies, these cards do lend themselves some extra utility. Arcane Lighthouse and Detection Tower can be seeded into your manabase so at worst they're just a Wastes however they can be more inefficient in comparison. Given that both are lands, tapping them costs you an extra mana resource effectively making their abilities cost to activate. Not only that, but they have no effect at stripping indestructible which can be a common keyboard which may be used alongside most hexproof strategies. Cards like Bonds of Mortality and Shadowspear cost only one to activate and they can bypass indestructible, however given they're not lands you have to dedicate a nonland slot in your deck to accommodate either of them which means taking out a card that may better synergize with your deck's main strategy in their place. They also lend themselves targets for counter spells and given hexproof decks contain white and/or green, artifact/enchantment removal will pose a high potential risk. This is all not to mention you still need to provide a removal spell in tandem with these cards in order to remove the threat.
Another solution is board wipes. Cards such as Wrath of God, Damnation, Day of Judgment, Supreme Verdict, Blasphemous Act, etc. Mass creature removal is incredibly strong given that its always relevant in most metas making it a highly flexible solution that isn't too narrow to rely upon. It's biggest drawback however is if the massive hexproof creature that needs to be dealt with has indestructible, totem armor or Gift of Immortality. Even a card such as Toxic Deluge can be a risk as you may have to pay a huge amount of life if the creature is incredibly big. Cyclonic Rift is another effective card. One thing to note about boardwipes are they affect the whole table which makes them also more likelier to be countered than by effects that impact a single individual.
A more narrow solution would be through damage prevention effects such as Story Circle, Forcefield, Runed Halo, Rune of Protection: White, etc. Given each card never "targets" they can be used to infinitely "Fog" a problem creature that you can't put up with. These effects are more narrow than boardwipes but broader than hexproof removal. Cards like these still run into problems with artifact/enchantment removal and they don't run enticing side effects such as drawing a card upon entering the battlefield like Bonds of Mortality or giving a creature lifelink and trample like Shadowspear, however you won't need to exhaust your removal spells to keep the large creature(s) either. In more broader metas such as combo, stax and prison, these effects may not be as useful however. More broader variants of these protection cards exist as Ensnaring Bridge, Divine Presence, Peacekeeper and Meekstone though these cards may make multiple opponents unhappy enough to remove them than the more narrower options.
The last effect used to combat large hexproof creatures is sacrifice effects such as: Fleshbag Marauder, Innocent Blood, Vona's Hunger, Liliana's Triumph, Doomfall etc. These effects can bypass not only hexproof but also indestructible, regenerate and totem armor. Their drawback lies in if the player with the large hexproof creature has any other creatures to sacrifice in their place. Because of this caveat this effect isn't too strong unless ran in multiples which can be difficult to commit to in a 100-card format. Instead selective sacrifice effects may be the best way to devote to this solution with cards like: Crackling Doom, Soul Shatter, Slaughter the Strong, Council's Judgment, Renounce the Guilds and Wing Shards. While these cards won't always guarantee the large hexproof creature will be removed, they provide a stronger case than not compared to most traditional sacrifice removal.
Lastly there are counter spells to remove hexproof creatures. While they may be the best all purpose solution they can be rendered ineffective if a Cavern of Souls or some other can not be countered effect is in place. With exception to Withering Boon, the biggest downside to counter spells are they are entirely exclusive to blue meaning other color combinations without blue do not have this option available.
Which method do you rely on to stop massive hexproof creatures? Is there a card or solution set not listed here that you use? If you happen to play EDH decks with big massive hexproof creatures, which effects annoy/counter you the most?
3 months ago
Hello again wonderful people of the trading post, I have just finished updating my binder yet again with more cards I have recently acquired. I am always looking to trade, but the cards I am prioritizing over all else are the ones that only have a single copy listed in my Wants. Of course, I will still gladly trade for any of the others in my wants as well, in addition to plenty of cards I may not have listed. I will look through any binders to try to find a potential trade, even if you have nothing from my wants!
Here's a sample of some of the cooler items I added to my binder in this update:
- Blightsteel Colossus
- Defense Grid
- Forcefield (Collector's Edition)
- Mycosynth Lattice
- Sword of Fire and Ice
- Ghost Quarter
- Urza's Tower
- 2x Consecrated Sphinx
- Cyclonic Rift
- Tooth and Nail
- 2x Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger
- Mana Echoes
I added many more $10+ and even $20+ cards along with a few cool foils, so check it out! Sort by price to see the good stuff all together.
8 months ago
I run a similar style with my Derevi deck, though I use primarily enchantments instead of creatures for one simple reason - Creatures are usually easier to remove. But here's some cards that I'd recommend using if you're going for as much resource denial as possible:
Creatures: Seedborn Muse , Angus Mackenzie , Lavinia, Azorius Renegade , Sigarda, Host of Herons , Hokori, Dust Drinker , Michiko Konda, Truth Seeker , False Prophet , Baird, Steward of Argive , Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer , Melira, Sylvok Outcast I'd only recommend using Melira if you plan on having Phyrexian Unlife in the deck.
Enchantments: Pendrell Mists , Frozen AEther , Blind Obedience , Privileged Position , Greater Auramancy , Back to Basics , Land Equilibrium , Propaganda , War Tax , Collective Restraint , Teferi's Moat , Moat , Humility , Overwhelming Splendor , Leyline of Anticipation , Solemnity , Invoke Prejudice , Mana Reflection , Mechanized Production , Overburden , Rising Waters , Rule of Law , Wilderness Reclamation
1 year ago
I don't understand what these cards do for you. Wheel of Fortune Fevered Visions Well of Ideas Zur's Weirding Dire Fleet Hoarder Jace's Archivist Pitiless Plunderer Howling Mine Temple Bell Venser's Journal Revitalize Minds Aglow
Maybe add: Metalworker Voltaic Key Forcefield Ethersworn Canonist Phyrexian Metamorph Karn, Silver Golem Tidehollow Sculler Mindslaver Vault of Whispers Hex Parasite Crawlspace Ancient Den Vedalken Orrery Batterskull Clock of Omens Triskelion Time Sieve Scourglass Stuffy Doll Nim Deathmantle Magister Sphinx Worldslayer Norn's Annex Darksteel Forge Tidehollow Strix Soul Conduit Darksteel Myr Sol Ring War Report Mycosynth Lattice
Oh, and land.
1 year ago
DrkNinja, while I do reeaaalllyy agree with your card suggestions, I should have stated first that this is a budget deck. Hahahahaha. Sorry.
I just started magic a few weeks ago, and I have inherited from my brother his Trostani EDH deck, and as long as I keep to myself for the first few turns and stay alive, I automatically win, with huge creatures all over the field hitting 2-3 people in one turn and dealing lethal to them. But I wanna change that for a bit and try to create a deck of my own playstyle.
I agree that most of my cards don't really have much worth come mid or late game, but I find it fun trying to keep others from winning. I also checked your deck and I found really good stuff to consider bringing over here to mine.
Cards I'm considering:
*Cards I have in extra
Though some of your suggestions such as Curse of Opulence and Curse of Bloodletting are really good, I don't think it's legal for me to put it in an esper themed deck. Also, Curse of Shallow Graves doesn't really do much for me, I'd rather put in Curse of Disturbance , as I also get a zombie whenever that player is attacked. I know that it's weird, but I would try to minimize each opponent's gains from my enchantments too much. Incentivizing them to attack another player is good, but them getting 2/2 zombies who can hit me too, would be real bad.
Vedalken Orrery is reaallyyy good for this deck but it's priced up way too high for me. This is the first time I've heard of Forcefield , and no. I wouldn't be able to afford it, and if I could, I definitely wouldn't be downgrading everything else in this deck. Ahahahahahaha
Any suggestions as to which cards I could do without?
1 year ago
First let me start by saying that if your goal is to win, I think you are missing value... You have 8 cards that require voting and 3 cards that affect your ability to change votes... I think that of those only 4 or 5 cards are worth their weight. I like the concept of the deck, I even built a version of politics matters deck called Politically Motivated. which is themed after House of Cards but it's in Mardu colors. I think you'd be better off cutting the cards that affect the voting outcome and play some pillow fort. Ghostly Prison , Propaganda , Collective Restraint , Glacial Chasm , and Sphere of Safety are all great cards for that purpose. I also think you should play a bit more counter magic, stuff like Arcane Denial so that you tell them no and give them a slap on the ass at the same time! Honestly some spells will resolve and destroy your boardstate so it's worth playing a few. I also think that Path to Exile , Swords to Plowshares , and Anguished Unmaking are pretty relevant to deal with cards that are indestructible.
Also here are some fun political cards I used that you may like.
- Deadly Designs
- Duelist's Heritage
- Orzhov Advokist
- Curse of Bloodletting
- Curse of Disturbance
- Curse of Misfortunes
- Curse of Opulence
- Curse of Shallow Graves
- Curse of Stalked Prey
- Curse of the Forsaken
- Curse of Thirst
- Curse of Vengeance
1 year ago
Thanks for the suggestions Quicksilver!
Thalia will most likely be making an appearance in v2 of this deck. I've playtested it several times and there's more misses than hits. When it works it really works. The problem I'm facing is the continuous life loss and being hated out of a game because of the stax cards, mainly Humility .
I'm planning on putting in more pillow fort cards like Forcefield instead of stax. Either way, I need at least a little more life gain and more consistency. I need to hit up another GP and trade up for a Cruel Tutor , Grim Tutor , and Imperial Seal .
If anyone else wants to throw some suggestions and ideas at me, please do!