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Llanowar Scout Discussion
4 days ago
Cloudstone Curio + Retreat to Coralhelm + Budoka Gardener / Llanowar Scout / Walking Atlas + a land to draw whole deck and win with Laboratory Maniac (which is missing atm) / Sunscorched Desert to kill all opponents. Alternatively you can use Words of Wind to bounce your opponents permanents.
These are the main lines. You can also do shenanigans with Trade Routes to draw lots of cards.
Let me know if you test this build or a build of your own!
1 week ago
Looks interesting... Maybe your collection is growing and you've yet to have acquired all the cards, but I'd definitely start with playing all the cards with kicker in the colors of Hallar. Consider a saproling sub-theme to stay cost-effective and create more synergy.
It seems like you are working with a budget, so I'll avoid suggesting things like Carnage Tyrant, because I think there are still cheap includes that increase the power/speed of this deck.
You might consider adding these SUPER budget cards. These will be better filler and combo with your +1/+1 counter theme:Arbor ArmamentCultivator's CaravanDurable HandicraftEnter the UnknownGrand Warlord RadhaLifecrafter's GiftMaulfist RevolutionaryNew HorizonsPath of DiscoveryRidgescale Tusker
2 weeks ago
Thanks Hans49163,Your right that I need to drop Elfhame Druid and Grow from the Ashes. I like Narnam Renegade because I need more 1 drop cretures and it is an elf that could be pretty good late game. I like Llanowar Scout and it is even good late game because Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar last ability allows you to bring him back to your hand from your graveyard at the cost of returning 2 lands you control to your hand and Llanowar Scout can help you easily get those lands back . I like Merfolk Branchwalker and helps make Llanowar Scout more useful except it kinda sucks that its not an elf.
2 weeks ago
so first off lets talk about your mana-base. Evolving Wilds is great in a multi-colored deck, as it allows a cheap alternative for duel-lands, but in a mono colored deck they are useless other then having your land entering tapped, slowing you down a turn. Although it slightly helps out Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar graveyard ability, the bonus isn't worth slowing down your deck. If you want lands that add overall value i would recommend 2x Arch of Orazca as they are great during late game if you burn out. ok so your all-star turn one play is Llanowar Elves but if you don't have that in your opening hand your going to be doing nothing turn one, i would highly recomend at least 2-3 more 1 drop creatures. The key to one drops is them not losing value during the late game but still being awesome early game. I would recommend either Oviya Pashiri, Sage Lifecrafter(shes really awesome because she can generate loads of creatures when your hand is empty), Old-Growth Dryads (a 3/3 for is absolutely insane, and pairs great with Ghalta but giving your opponent an extra land can give them a big advantage over you), or Narnam Renegade (he keeps the elf tribal going, and at the same time offers a death-touch body that people don't want to mess with, who can potentially be a 2/3). it comes down to your choice. but i would add 2x-3x of any combination of these guys. your 2-drops are also kind of weird i dont like either of your creatures that you currently are running. Elfhame Druid is good ramp, but you have no kicker spells to maximize its potential. so its ultimately just a worse version of Llanowar Elves i would drop him completly. also i don't think Llanowar Scout is making the best use of this spot. although he can get you ahead in terms of mana, you wont be able to use that ability for long, and he becomes useless in a long game. One card i would definitely run 4 of is Merfolk Branchwalker she is awesome in the sense that she can help you draw, can let you basically scry, and can potentially have a +1/+1 counter when she enters. all around great 2-drop that wont be terrible if you draw her turn 5 or 6. your 3-drops are pretty solid, i would only drop Grow from the Ashes because of your multiple other options its basically a Wild Wanderer without the 3/2 body attached, its just too slow for this deck style. other cards that i think would look very good in this build are Territorial Allosaurus, Rhonas the Indomitable, and Jadelight Ranger. its ultimately up to you if you put any of them in, but they all offer some serious value and i would look into all of them
2 weeks ago
Exploration is super great
On there own each card is reasonably good especially Storm Cauldron since you break the symmetry being able to play more lands per turn.
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
As far as the creatures with multiple types, Kruphix, God of Horizons is pretty sweet with Sands of Delirium, and while free Wayfarer's Baubles every turn is pretty sweet, I still think Etherium Sculptor isn't quite doing enough. Courser of Kruphix is another one that I'm not sure about, because it only lets you play lands from the top, and therefore doesn't really synergise too much with the rest of the deck (Doesn't work with Burgeoning or Ramunap Excavator ). It might still be worth it, if I were you I would run it for a couple games and see how you like the Courser. IDK on that one.
I also realized that I was a little unclear about Alchemist's Refuge in my last comment. Obviously if you want to hold up instant speed interaction, you shouldn't tap out, but looking at your list, you don't really have much stuff to sneak in with Alchemist's Refuge except maybe Ravenous Chupacabra. Just looking over my list, I recommend Buried Alive (Can't believe I forgot about this on my first comment, this cards is nuts.) I have been enjoying Helm of the Host to get copies of Muldrotha and play many things, but that's pretty janky. The mill is actually a sweet direction I hadn't considered for muldrotha, and because mill is kinda slow, Elephant Grass should help you get through the early game . As to Llanowar Scout, keep in mind that it won't trigger Horn of Greed, because you aren't playing the land. Personally, I think that it's still pretty much a rampant growth that has summoning sickness. It does get significantly better with cards like Realms Uncharted (Which is super sweet oh my god I need to get one of these), but in that case, Sakura-Tribe Scout is the same effect that you can play on turn 1. Burgeoning is an awesome card, but with Ramunap Excavator , Exploration is WAY better. Burgeoning lends itself to a slightly stronger early game, but usually you won't be getting more than 1 or 2 lands with it. Actually, that might be worth it. If you want to spend the extra like $15 to get Exploration, it will probably be better at grinding (mind grinding, perhaps) out games.
2 weeks ago
darksilver, thanks for the input man!!! Mill has kinda been my guilty pleasure since I started playing, so I do want to include it here as much as possible. I'm thinking about scavenging some more from my (Built) Lazav EDH deck, haven't looked into yet, but maybe some of the artifacts, and convert that mainly to control/shapeshifter. I should probably tell you, budget is a big thing, lol, otherwise Font of Fertility and Font of Fortunes wouldn't be making an appearance, the money cards are just ones I've picked up along the way. I actually picked up two Ravenous Chupacabra tonight, and one of them definitely made the switch you were suggesting. I am going to be switching Ramunap Excavator from my (Built) Jarad EDH deck to this for sure, and throw in Burgeoning as well (what are your thoughts on that?). I like Llanowar Scout because it does let me play extra lands, but are you thinking I have too many of these instances? Like with Courser of Kruphix? Or is scout just too weak for that still? The reason I am playing Courser is twofold, he is an enchantment creature, and I tried to get as many permanents with multiple types in here so I would always be able to maximize my commander's ability, and he lets me play stuff out of my library just like Vizier of the Menagerie (which really gives me 3 places to play all told). Speaking of multiple types on permanents, that's the same logic behind Etherium Sculptor and Kruphix, God of Horizons, although secondary to multiple types is that the sculptor can make some of my artifacts free (and I think I will be adding more now, like Horn of Greed which I just got, and whatever milling I decide to do) and Kruphix can net me a lot of mana over time, which man, I know I have an artifact that has X mill in it... But... what do you think of those two still? I guess let me find the other stuff and then see... I need to get a few Perpetual Timepiece for like three or four decks, but as of now I don't have any. On that note, I think I might take out Mirror-Mad Phantasm because you are right about him milling me out, I just wanted to use him so bad; what do you think? I kinda like Death's Approach in here because more targeted removal without qualifiers is nice, it gets around indestructible, only costs one mana, and it's an enchantment so it gives me more options there. That all being said I think I am going to put in Fleshbag Marauder since I pulled him from a pack tonight (literally no shop has had a version of him the past week), and after that are you still not liking approach? Also, no Shriekmaw has I sadly. Your comment about lack of instant speed interaction does strike a chord within me... might look into throwing in Alchemist's Refuge, though my Kumena deck will be sorry to see it go, lol. I do believe I am going to find a way to fit in Secrets of the Dead, because my hand needs to have cards as well, probably, and that's so awesome I wish I had thought of it before. As for Cyclonic Rift, and Beast Within... I really didn't want to move away from the permanent theme (also... I do not own a Rift, please do not doubt my seriousness as a commander player, lol), but I might actually be adding something I picked up today in the $.50 bin, Realms Uncharted. After looking over this again with your words, and some new thoughts, in my mind these are the cards I'm for sure going to be pulling: Villainous Wealth and Shambling Shell, those are just the for sure ones though. I think I might invest more into the creatures... sigh, part of me wants to bring over my Lord of Extinction, but it makes Jarad really. Thanks again though!!! And have I changed your mind any? I do know you may want to wait until I have made more chnages, but seeing it through your eyes has helped a lot already.