Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature he or she controls that's attacking you.
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|Commander 2020 (C20)||Uncommon|
|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Uncommon|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Uncommon|
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Propaganda occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.09%
WU (Azorius): 1.15%
WUB (Esper): 0.48%
GWU (Bant): 0.72%
2 days ago
I am always happy to see another Angry Om deck, i've been working on my list, OMNATH CRUEL GRUUL, for about 2 years now and i do have some suggestions:
1) Stalking Vengeance does work when your elementals die, so much damage can be outputed, and with a Craterhoof ETB on them, the damage is catastrophic. Which is handy if you're in a gummed-up boardstate or have to deal with Propaganda-like effects.
2) I heavily suggest Cavalier of Flame, for 5 mana, this elemental does alot at every stage. Draw, team haste and pump, and a death damage.
3) I'm not sure how you feel about it but Triumph of the Hordes will also win you games.
Godd luck, keep kicking butt!
3 days ago
Providing budget alternatives is not that simple because the deck is balanced as is and changing any single card would alter its equilibrium. I will try my best, but do keep in mind that with the following changes you will need to play the deck a lot slower than before. Without free counterspells you will need to wait for when you can leave mana open, and so on and so forth. Hopefully, the fact that all the decks in the tournament follow the same budget restrictions can make up for this. Here are my budget changes:
These are all direct substitutions. I took the cards you mentioned and replaced them with their budget counterparts. If you think some of them aren't good enough (and in most cases they are not), then you can consider including something completely different instead. I'm thinking about cards like Propaganda, Torpor Orb, more removal, more card draw, more ramp. You have the privilege of knowing the decks you will be facing, so you can tweak the deck according to your matchups.
If you want to be prepared against a token deck, try shaving some single target removals or counterspells for a few extra board wipes. Just be extra careful against Meren because they tend to play a lot of Fleshbag Marauder-like effects, which is something this deck really struggles with. Make use of your haste enablers to kill your opponent during the very first turn you play Lazav, before he or she has the opportunity to play those cards.
I wish you good luck for your tournament, and let me know about your results!
5 days ago
I tried to take your advice as best I could with my budget.
- I removed a lot cards to add additional sea creatures, while also trying to find ways to add draw.
- In addition to Propaganda, I also added Crawlspace, Vodalian Illusionist and Vanishing. My hope is to benefit more than my OP.
Any other suggestions for me?
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
I definitley love the way you are taking this deck. I once tried to build a Arixmethes, Slumbering Isle tribal sea creatures deck and it was trash. I think this is definitely a fun was to take it. The advice that I have for you:
- Pick one direction to take your deck in and go in that direction.
This will allow you have a much better deck as there is less of a chance that you will draw a card that is a blank in the current situation. I would, of course, recommend the sea-creatures theme with a subtheme of card draw, as this seems the most versatile and powerful.
- Cut the "value" cards.
I know this may be hard, but a lot of the cards in your deck don't really add to a specific game plan (e.g. Caged Sun). These are just adding to the cost and in my opinion, detract from the power of the deck.
- Remember Braids is symmetrical.
This may seem obvious, but she can allow your OP to get in some scary things. I would recommend adding about 5 ways to ensure that she benefits you more than your OPs. Propaganda is a step in that direction, but there are better options. Try to stop them from being able to use her trigger, or something else. I'm not sure of any specific card that can help, but I'm sure there are some. Try looking on EDHrec.com.
That's all the advice I can give. I'll check back in a couple of days to offer more, or just reply if you have a specific question. Good luck!!!
2 weeks ago
Non-Linear: Thanks for the suggestions
Maybe I'm misguided but I feel that single-target removal is mostly there for permanents which will either hamper you greatly or will give its controller an insurmountable advantage, which makes me feel that permanent agnosticism (including lands like Glacial Chasm) weighs heavier than the higher CMC and the replacing: a 3/3 token won't bother Pako too much since he'll be at least a 4/4 after he attacks (and the token will likely have to deal with some kind of stax). Chaos Warp can be horrible admittingly, but the odds are much higher that it'll either put in something irrelevant or just whiff with a spell card. The added ramp from Song of the Dryads usually doesn't matter, since the highly problematic permanents I prefer pointing removal at usually come out later on (plus, it can pseudo-tuck commanders which can be very powerful). Still, Nature's Claim is obviously very good and it's always at the back of my mind. Volcanic Offering is something I've only recently acknowledged and is interesting for being able to deal with larger creatures (which the current stax doesn't hit as hard) and not being as much card disadvantage for you vis-a-vis the other opponents, so I'll keep it in mind as well.
I do have Aetherflux Reservoir & Shadowspear for lifegain (and Propaganda as a pseudo-blocker)! ...But with all the other incidental life loss in the deck, yeah, I should probably be less of a hipster and cut Pyrohemia. Don't really want Anger of the Gods due to Burning Sands but the rest other two are interesting, especially Fade Away. (I found Barrage of Boulders which seems better over the Wave here.)
Finally and arguably most importantly: You can still play fetched lands so is hitting them really that bad? For casting Pako consistently I'm following the land count formula of 31 + number of colors + CMC - 1 for the CMC 0 Mana Crypt. (It's not often I'm told I have too many lands!)
2 weeks ago
@ Reznorboy Thanks for checking out my deck and giving me some suggestions. Honestly this is a very early draft of this deck and might change significantly once I am able to play test it.
As far as cheep hexproof creatures I am already running Gladecover Scout, Slippery Bogle, and Silhana Ledgewalker. With my searching of gatherer the only other cheep hexproof creatures I see that seem worth it that I have been considering are Elusive Tormentor Flip and Troll Ascetic. Am I missing something? What hexproof creatures would you recommend I add?
Furthermore what cheep counterspells would you recommend? I know the free counterspells. But I already have them for my cEDH deck and those are going to be expensive to pick up another copy of. I might pick up a second Pact of Negation for this deck down the road though.
What combo are you referring to with Raven's Crime? I don't think I've seen that card cast in EDH and I have been playing EDH for around 10 years. I always like combos I have never heard of before.
I don't think I'm running enough graveyard recursion / graveyard matters to make Life from the Loam good. Do you think I should be?
Honestly I am not worried about competitive players. I have Tymna the Weaver / Thrasios, Triton Hero cEDH built as well as a Teshar, Ancestor's Apostle built in a way that is high tier EDH but not quite cEDH. If other players want to play more competitively I have decks that can do that.
I might cut Propaganda down the road but Leyline of Anticipation lets you hold up counterspells on opponents turns and then cast stuff on their end step if they don't do anything you need to interact with. I fail to see how Leyline of Anticipation is a pillow-fort type card. However I have been considering Seedborn Muse to take advantage of flash.
2 weeks ago
Personally, I think that if you want abuse mutate as much as possible, you should try to have a good number (maybe a third) of your creatures be cheap creatures with hexproof (like Slippery Bogle, yes, I know you have some already, but I really think the deck could use more) and try to only mutate those creatures and put them on bottom, and when you draw more creatures with mutate, 're-mutate' the monster again, so you're not losing advantage.
Then, I think you should play a few more cheap counter spells specifically to prevent board wipes, because board wipes usually don't target, to help protect you further.
I would also play combo cards like Life from the Loam and Raven's Crime. Obviously, if you're playing against casual players who don't want an unfair game, maybe not, but you never know when you'll run into more competitive players.
Personally, I would take out cards like Propaganda and Leyline of Anticipation that are more Pillow-Fort and Flash focused and replace them with cheap CMC ramp like Utopia Sprawl. No one really likes playing against Pillow-Fort anyway and a few cards here and there aren't going to synergize very well to help you win.
I think you should generally try to play cards that make the opponent(s) feel like they can win but don't actually allow them to.