Legality
| Format | Legality |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Noble | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Magic Duels | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Unformat | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
Printings View all
| Set | Rarity |
| Commander 2016 (C16) | Uncommon |
| Commander 2013 (C13) | Uncommon |
| MTG: Commander (CMD) | Uncommon |
| Tempest (TMP) | Uncommon |
Combos Browse all
Propaganda
Enchantment
Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays for each creature he or she controls that's attacking you.
Price & Acquistion Set Price Alerts
C16
C13
CMD
Ebay
Ebay
Recent Decks
Propaganda Discussion
SynergyBuild on
Izzet's Divide and Conquer
3 days ago
Two stax lists, a midrange list, and five combo lists, all are tier one, and this had not won a single game against them.
I understand that "Competitive is far more than rushing through the first turns for a win, it about gaining of hold of every advantage the deck offers with the given hand and draws." I started this by going over the three competitive archetypes, combo, stax and control, this lists offers about nothing to all three of those archetypes.
Your list runs no powerful combos, no stax locks, and extremely little control. Your commander synergies very little with the deck, and runs no ramp, minimal card draw, and bad countermagic.
Lets take a look at this deck considered competitive:
What can you do turn one to a random hand against Food Chain Tazri, they can turn one a Bloodstained Mire into an Underground Sea, and cast an Vampiric Tutor for a Food Chain on your end step.
The best you can do is a Tome Scour, of course this won't mill the card on top, as they did it on your end step, but whatever.
Wow, you have all of 1 card that is actually castable turn 1. Half of your non-land cards require 4+ mana to cast. Many cEDH decks require 3 or less mana to cast every spell in their deck. You run all of 0 pieces of ramp, and no efficient way to win a game against those decks cosnidering even your commander won't cheat them out until turn 8 on your curve.
That is fine though, that means you aren't a fast-paced combo build, it doesn't mean you are not competitive though, stax and control can be great decks, that win very late in the game, turn 8-20 occasionally are when they win.
Stax decks attempt to shut out their combo opponents, you opponent over with Food Chain + Eternal Scourge trying to make infinite mana? Sphere of Safety shuts them down. Try to go off with turns in Narset, Enlightened Master, Stranglehold that. Trying to beat my face in with Blood Pod, Moat that. Then I will go off with infinite flying Pestermite tokens turn 13 with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker after all of you can't do anything.
What does this deck have in terms of stax?
Well, it has War Tax, which require mana that you cannot efficiently use against a Blood Pod deck, as they will stax you out before you them, Armageddon and Ravages of War are a blowout to this deck since you don't run artifact or creature mana. Propaganda would be a better choice, despite not being good enough a choice to make this deck competitive.
Opposition and Aphetto Grifter are decent options for token builds with tons of creatures, on the upkeep of an opponent's turn, you tap down all of their lands, it is pretty good, but as this deck can't do that before it will die, they aren't very good at a competitive table.
Frozen AEther this is truely the best stax you run, it can stop some Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combos, slows down other peoples mana in terms of dorks, rocks, and lands. It is also good as it doesn't affect you, if you could run a Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mana Vault or anything to make it come down before your opponents win, then it might be useful.
Urabrask the Hidden it is a bad version of Frozen AEther, you don't need haste to combo out or anything, and it just is slow and clunk and easy to remove.
Fatespinner at least it is in your tribe, otherwise it would just occasionally deny 1 or 2 damage, any time a player needs combat, they win that turn. If they do, they you deny a card, and die immediately after, otherwise they take away a combat they wouldn't need anyway.
Orbs of Warding good card if it was a couple mana less, or you could control/stax a game to pull it off, otherwise it doesn't need to be here.
All in all, you aren't a stax deck, you run little to no good stax cards, the few you run that sees play require ramp.
Well, I guess this is a bad cEDH deck, or control. You run 21 spells that could be used as removal or countermagic, 10 that are 4 or less mana. This is awful for a control deck, unless they are Force of Will and just look like 5 mana, or you run a lot of ramp, sadly neither are true.
Again, this is not a bad deck, simply a casual one, not cEDH material. That is why your list isn't competitive, yes, I have run a spellshaper tribal Damia deck at state level play, not a tournament at state level, just a game at a grand prix side event. That deck isn't good, but it is fun. State level play means nothing. cEDH is actual competitive decks, unlike this one, playing at the upper echelons of the format, in fact, it is so different compared to normal EDH, that is it called cEDH.
This may be winning games where you play, but I have tested it, and I implore you to sit down next to some good stax and fast-paced combo players, against $5600 The Gitrog Monster builds, $6000 General Tazri builds, $5000 Teferi, Temporal Archmage builds, and tell me this deck will win a game against them.
You are wrong, not based on my own opinion, but with playtesting a deck that supposedly wins by turn 10 at the slowest, goldfishing it.
I have yet to see another deck in ALL OF CEDH, that goldfishes a win, or complete stax lock down past turn 6, ever.
Your deck is misleading by using the hub "competitive", all I want is for you to remove it.
MegaMatt13 on
The Scarab God, Grave Defiler
3 days ago
Elywood, it's usually a grindy combination of both...getting some life drain off the upkeep trigger and then swinging in with some zombies (especially if I have Wonder in the grave).
Typically games go like this:
1) Don't appear to be a big threat right away and have a deathtouch creature or Propaganda out to avoid early aggression
2) Don't cast the Scarab God until I have pitched some good targets into my graveyard or opponents have good targets in theirs.
3) Control the board as needed while slowly accruing value with the Scarab God
4) End up being in the final two by not being the overt scary threat. Steal the victory by swinging in with zombies/draining the last person out.
Of course it doesn't always work that way...sometimes very fast decks can explode before my value engine gets going. That's how it goes when it works though :)
UpperDeckerTaco on
Protean Chromium, Elder Dragon
4 days ago
No Mesa Enchantress or Doomwake Giant? Seem like reasonable options. Also, Idyllic Tutor seems like a good option for additional tutors.
Heartless Summoning seems a little bad here with Chromium. If you ever pitch a card to give it Hexproof and Chromium isn't suited up, it just dies to Heartless Summoning. It also kills your Snapcaster Mage when it enters.
As Foretold also seems like a decent enchantment. Along with Ghostly Prison and Propaganda since you are not running any board wipes, you need some sort of protection. A board wipe that you can use that doesn't affect your board is Settle the Wreckage or AEtherspouts.
geekoftheages on
Knowledge is Power
1 week ago
@mahdik thanks for all the suggestions. I like Propaganda and have been looking for one for some time. I think the few voltron cards make a good back up plan even if I don’t always intend to go that route. I may even add a couple more voltron cards for that reason. Rhystic Study I’ve been wanting for years so may be overrating it. Now you mention it I can see why it would be a whole lot better multiplayer. Thanks so much for the upvote!
kingyfyvf on Grixis Wizard Commander Help
1 week ago
This is my first commander deck I got a few months back and have built it up slowly but am in dire need of help finishing it. I know it is slow and probably bad but I like it and it suits me just fine. I like how it can focus on the graveyard but the only strategies I have for it is the Duskmantle Guildmage and Mindcrank set and the Sphinx's Tutelage. Any help is appreciated.
Commander: Inalla, Archmage Ritualist
Creatures:
Artifacts:
Enchantments:
Instants:
Sorcery:
Planeswalker:
Land:
Mountain x4
Island x10
Swamp x6
Scytec on
Breed Lethality 2018
1 week ago
So, I think you may have a problem. It seems as though you prefer a more controlling archetype of play. Atraxa is a phenomenal commander, however, when you build her around +1/+1 counters, you are tending to play quite aggressively. You have a few options. You can continue dumping money into Atraxa and you'll have one fairly powerful deck you can play. Not a terrible thing, probably your best avenue power wise. However, it sounds like you're holding onto this single deck because it was a nice gift, and it was, so keep it intact to play, but I recommend stepping a little aside and constructing a new deck. There is nothing wrong with having multiple decks to play, and you could build something a little more in your wheel house. If your group doesn't have a problem with it, I recommend proxying cards before purchasing them. Especially your more expensive cards. Try the cards out in a few games and see how they play before investing in them. Another issue is that it seems like you are in a moderately competitive meta. That's tough as a budget player. While not impossible to build a competitive deck on a budget, it is quite difficult. I recommend looking up cEDH deck lists on YouTube through channels such as LabManiacs. They have a few budget options if memory serves. There are numerous other channel that do the same thing. One of the best semi-competitive decks is Edric, Spymaster of Trest, but it is super aggressive as well. Tatyova, Benthic Druid is another option that could be a little more controlling...
If you're dead set on Atraxa, which I wouldn't blame you for, she's dead sexy, :p I recommend shifting into a more infect, or superfriends archetype. Superfriends referring to Planeswalkers. I personally am building Atraxa Infect as I acquire the cards as that's my playstyle, but you may enjoy the more controlly aspect of superfriends. If you go that route look at cards that increase your protection. Ghostly Prison, Sphere of Safety, Propaganda, Meekstone, Crawlspace, and Ensnaring Bridge are some good ones of the top of my head. Look at additional ramp like Mana Vault, Basalt Monolith, or even Hedron Archive. There is an excellent podcast for EDH called The Command Zone. Highly recommend them for suggestions as well. They've done an episode on Atraxa. Anyway, they recommend as a rule 10 cards that provide ramp, 10 cards that provide card draw, 5 board wipes, and 5 spot removal. With variance depending on who your commander is and the deck you're trying to play, these are just things to look for. If you're consistently top decking, add some draw. More than anything you have to find something you enjoy playing. You'll get to the point you have a $700 deck or even more that you just really don't enjoy playing...and that sucks. So that's my recommendation, either shift archetypes with Atraxa, or Build a new deck that fits your playstyle more. If I'm wrong and you really enjoy the aggressive route, then ya, picking up some cards that provide you and your board with hexproof is a great idea. Also, perhaps get some enchantment removal such as Naturalize in addition to the Krosan Grip you already run. Redundancy is good. If one iteration of a card is good enough for your deck...why not another? My personal favorites are Anguished Unmaking and Utter End as they allow you to deal with practically anything.
Sorry about the novella...good luck! Let me know if you have any more questions.
mahdik on
Knowledge is Power
1 week ago
If you only plan to play 1v1, there's a lot of mean cards you can run: Time Stop, Turnabout, Mana Short, Platinum Emperion, Platinum Angel, Propaganda, Isochron Scepter.
I also suggest you to reconsider some of these cards: Rhystic Study (in 1v1, it can be underwhelming), Overflowing Insight and Mulldrifter (straight up draw spell, good or bad, always have their limits) and Sphinx of Magosi (its just a really basic cards, you can easily find a better engine alternative card somewhere out there.
On another note, if you play with commander damage, I suggest you invest into more voltron-ish play, more equipment and stuff. Otherwise? you should take out Blackblade Reforged and Empyrial Plate (equipment that gives stat boost and no other abilities are fine, but commander's not about the fine, its about the awesome, amirite???).
In anyway, I love straight up mono-color good stuff deck. You have my upvote :D
Maizena on
Nekusar, the Friendship Destroyer
2 weeks ago
Sorry for the loooooooooooooooooooong time without posting here guys, i've been pretty busy. I'll post the updated list (8 changes) and explain the reason behind every substitution later.
@MarcosTithes Thanks a lot man! I really liked your list, seems pretty solid! But why runing Entomb? For Kess and Mizzix? Is it worth?
@DVLuca I've already changed 3 lands for the sinets (2 of them were lands that ETB tapped). I was afraid of beeing short in mana, but the change was great, thanks! Since I don't have Yawgmoth's Will or Scroll Rack I still need to test them online.
@DragCov Thank you! Some players at my LGS use creature heavy decks, Propaganda and No Mercy sometimes protects me from overruns LOL
@Megalomania I Think the same about Dark Deal. I'm finishing a trade on a Imperial Seal, it should be a nice replacement. I'm not sure about Helm of the Ghastlord, I know a wheel with it will give a ton of draw and my opponents 'll be locked, but it makes me more "Nekusar dependent". I'm going to test it anyway! And tanks a lot for your support, really! :)
@DrkNinja Some changes were made, but I'm not in a rush to make a lot more right now because I'm working in another decks and this one goes really well at my LGS and thanks for the comments! :)
@spoonieluv1023 Thanks man, I'm fine, I just ignore the rage comments lol. And Long Live the Mad King of Tristan!