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|Magic Origins (ORI)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Uncommon|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Uncommon|
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Turn to Frog
Target creature loses all abilities and becomes a 1/1 Frog until end of turn.
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Turn to Frog Discussion
1 week ago
drummerboy22 thanks! That sounds like it would be awesome, but since both of Turn to Frog and Snakeform get rid of all of the creature's abilities as well, wouldn't Tree of Perdition not be able to do its tap ability? I have thought of putting some burn cards in here as well, so that I can more easily knock down the opponents remaining life, though, to maybe make this a stronger deck.
1 week ago
Hi @Bootsworthy, great concept! But have you considered setting Tree's toughness to 1 with Turn to Frog or Snakeform instead? If you stack one of those first, then use the Tree's ability, it still works as desired. That way you only use one card, and you're guaranteed to set it to 1 instead of any other number. Support that with Vapor Snag and the like, and I think this list will greatly improve. :-)
3 months ago
Just catching up on this thread. The lords for less-utilized tribes mentioned earlier are interesting, but as a Skeleton tribal devotee, it annoys me that Death Baron's reprint means that Skeletons getting a lord that's actually a Skeleton is looking less likely. Do I betray my values and accede to the overprinted, oversupported, and overdeveloped Zombies, or do I keep my skels below their full potential? Either way, Skeleton Archer and Bone Dragon are both welcome.
Outside of griping about tribal, Runic Armasaur is an interesting contribution to control, and would be pretty entertaining alongside Burning-Tree Shaman. Crucible of Worlds and Scapeshift have been mentioned enough already, so my last thought for now is the newest addition to the Pongify-Rapid Hybridization-Turn to Frog deck, with Transmogrifying Wand. Let the Pillarfield Ox enter your life!
6 months ago
The value of X for a spell or ability only gets "locked in" at the beginning if it's something the player has to choose a value for during the casting/activating process. Otherwise, it's determined as the spell/ability resolves. In your example it will use the creature's current toughness as it exists on the battlefield, and if it no longer exists then it will use last-known-information from the last moment the creature was on the battlefield. This is covered in the last few sentences of the rule quoted by cdkime, above.
Note that Turn to Frog only changes base P/T. Any other +/- effects currently affecting the creature will still be applied on top of that.
6 months ago
Phenax, God of Deception gives creatures an ability to tap and mill a target player for X, where X is that creatures toughness.
If a player activates the mill ability of a creature where X is 10, and in response another player plays Turn to Frog what is the outcome?
Does the Turn to Frog resolve turning the creature into a 1/1 resulting in a mill effect of one card?
Does the Turn to Frog resolve turning the creature into a 1/1, but the mill ability would resolve resulting in a 10 card mill?
Does the Turn to Frog resolve turning the creature into a 1/1 negating the ability?
I'm almost positive the third outcome is incorrect, but I'm unsure as to the first two.
In addition, if the creature is tapped thus activating a 10 card mill, would a spell like Vraska's Contempt in response destroy the creature resulting in a 0 card mill because the creatures toughness does not exist on the battlefield, or would the tapped ability resolve resulting in a 10 card mill regardless?
In other words, is the tapped ability dependent on the creatures toughness at the time of activation or at the time the ability resolves?
Thanks for the help!
7 months ago
7 months ago
I run a blue illusion deck myself and I can offer some suggestions.
They should be pretty self explanatory upon reading but if you have any questions for any particular card lmk.