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Glorious Anthem Discussion
3 weeks ago
This comment will be highlighting areas in the remaining non-land categories that may be better suited with upgrades.
Awakening works for ALL players BTW!!
1 month ago
Thank you Avacidal_maniac. I'll definitely go through your suggestions and make some changes. I was already planning to remove Glorious Anthem and put in either Angelic Armaments or Angelic Destiny, you've given me lots more good options. :)
This has already been a fun deck to play and one that's chosen often in our group as we play the Star format but choose all the decks from a single players pool (that way they're more evenly matched and nobody feels picked on because of their deck-building style).
1 month ago
So, when played after Trostani, Selesnya's Voice they gain you 8 life, and every token that enters after is bigger.
Infinite life is a thing in UpperDeckerTacos situation, and whatever your sac outlet is doing could be beneficial.
The gain your permanents back thing is primarily for those Aikido style EDH decks that don’t want you to do what you’re doing. IMO at least. It’s much harder to play Trostani, Selesnya's Voice without your commander...
It just seems like one of those dollar bin cards that won’t be relevant to most people most of the time. I don’t feel like I’d even be excited for it in Limited, other than as a Glorious Anthem. The art is nice though.
1 month ago
Firstly, I like the list. I love building tribal decks, but I've never done Humans before - so good on ya!
Secondly, here's context from me: I was introduced to magic thru EDH, and slowly (thru going to FNMs and then PPTQs and then GPs and SCG events) got into the cEDH scene, until that wasn't even enough to satisfy my competitive hunger. Now I grind low level events to try and get my game up and become pro. So I will be making cuts based on "Can you win with this card," not "Let's all have fun." (WHICH IS A FINE WAY TO PLAY !! I just don't enjoy playing that way, but if that's how you want to play, go for it !)
Okay here's a list of 23 cards I would take out to make your deck legal, followed by the reasoning behind why I think you should take them out. I will start by saying Westvale Cult Leader Flip isn't a real card; it's the flip side of Hanweir Militia Captain, but it seems TO won't let you tag the Captain.
Mirari's Wake, True Conviction, Heirloom Blade, Swiftfoot Boots, and Sundering Growth: Also bad redundancy. The wake felt like a bad Zendikar Resurgent. Conviction felt like an Archetype of Courage that can't attack. Boots is a poor man's Lightning Greaves, and you def. do not need both. I'd rather have Descendants' Path than Heirloom Blade. Lastly, Sundering Growth is a worse version of Austere Command.
Bow of Nylea, Congregation at Dawn, Collective Effort, and Open the Armory: All these cards just seem like odd fits to me. It's not that they aren't good, but Congregation and Open specifically seem really narrow. Bow seems to care about things you don't care about, and same story with Collective Effort there. For those reasons, I'd take out these four.
Fumigate, Hour of Revelation, and Wrath of God: NOPE NOPE NOT EVEN ONCE. You have plenty of Oblivion Ring effects on your creatures, AND you have Path, AND you have Swords. You do not need sweepers, your opponents do.
Overwhelming Stampede, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Second Harvest, and Thalia's Lancers: These seem to not be needed. Bad redundancy in Overwhelming Stampede, but it's also a spell (as opposed to Beastmaster Ascension, which is a permanent), so it leaves you open to countermagic. Avacyn's Pilgrim seems meh when you have ramp spells. Lastly, Second Harvest and Thalia's Lancers seem narrow. I see you make tokens, which is what Anointed Procession is for, and Thalia's Lancers can get you legends, sure, but your legends are necessarily "silver bullets," if you will.
Herald of War, Selesnya Signet, and Cryptolith Rite: WOW These were hard cuts. I like Herald, but not as much as I like your other angels. The signet is okay I guess, but, considering you are a green deck, I'm not sure how much you need a target for your opponent's Nature's Claim. My last cut was Cryptolith Rite, and I'm not even sure that's correct. I had a hard time cutting your last card. I think the card is awesome, but couldn't find another spot for it, and I didn't want to cut a land (down to 34 lands) to make room, considering your top end is.. pretty top ended.
OKAY! I think that's it. I hope you at least consider these changes. Everyone plays different, so these are the cuts I would make based on how I play magic. Hope this helps !!
1 month ago
I also realized you are missing a solid samuari creature card Bushi Tenderfoot
1 month ago
Here's something to consider, instead of Glorious Anthem effects what about more tools to make the deck more aggressive. Yes, +1/+1 for your creatures does help with the combat phase, but consider that you only need to attack for 10 points of 'damage'.
Here's some thing to look at:
Another attack vector:
Crucible of Worlds
Pretty expensive but worth it:
Survival of the Fittest
3 months ago
Sure thing. Sorry that took a while:
- Woolly Razorback: too expensive, not good
- Hindering Light: not good
- Remove Soul: not good
- Render Silent: too expensive, hard to cast
- Rewind: you don't wanna leave 4 mana open
- Chromatic Lantern: fixes all your mana, so it will be destroyed right away
- Cultivate: not good
- Skyshroud Claim: too late
- Condemn: not good
- Disenchant: claim is better
- Shield Wall: calculate mana cost/toughness boost. a 2 toughness per mana boost is good, anything wose should just stick or do something(like Call to Glory or Glorious Anthem, and even these are kind of bad.)
- Steadfastness: see shield wall
- Disallow: trickbind is better imho
- Pongify: leaves a 3/3
- Mana Leak: can be useless
- Dispel : very narrow for a deck like yours. I'd prefer Autumn's Veil or Heroic Intervention. adding the latter.
- Reality Shift: exile is awesome
- Noble Hierarch: mana dorks
- Elvish Mystic
- Llanowar Elves
- Fyndhorn Elves
- Arbor Elf
- Birds of Paradise
- Wild Growth
- Selesnya Signet: mana rocks
- Azorius Signet
- Simic Signet
- Mystical Tutor: finds everything
- Nature's Claim
- Echoing Truth
- Muddle the Mixture: finds a lot of really crucial cards and doubles down as an emergency counter
- Sylvan Library: too good not to run, even without paying life, fetches make this great. maybe also consider Mirri's Guile
Mana base(33 is enough at this average cmc):
- Tropical Island
- Arid Mesa
- Flooded Strand
- Marsh Flats
- Misty Rainforest
- Polluted Delta
- Scalding Tarn
- Verdant Catacombs
- Windswept Heath
- Wooded Foothills
- Horizon Canopy
- Reflecting Pool
- Adarkar Wastes
- Yavimaya Coast
- Ancient Tomb
- Nimbus Maze
- Strip Mine: Maze of Ith so you always wanna have one of these four sooner or later during a game.
- Ghost Quarter
- Tectonic Edge
- 3 Forest
- 3 Plains
- 4 Island
That's what I'd do and then playtest it and go tweaking. Hope that helps and also that it wasn't too brutal. For real tweaking please add a list of decks you play against or how a normal game looks like(amount of combo decks, creature decks, control decks per game). You do run lot's of creature spot removal, but I let that in, since you might need it.
3 months ago
Good_knight Well I really don't know what you have so that makes things harder. I can offer some suggestions but that kind of depends on your meta. What is your playgroup like or are you talking about local game store? Do you play 1v1 or more?
If your 1v1 I suggest more spot removal. This should help you buy time to get your engine online. There are a ton of cheap options as white and black are good for this. If you have a local game store near buy, you might be able to do get these pretty easy. Afterlife, Swords to Plowshares, Blazing Hope, Crib Swap, Mortify, Profane Procession (this would be a good card for this deck even when you move beyond it simple trickets). Unmake, Walk the Plank, Go for the Throat. You get the idea.
Ok so some ideas for improving your creature pool. I tried to keep this pretty cheap. Dauntless Bodyguard, Chieftain en-Dal, Fiendslayer Paladin, Kinsbaile Cavalier, Knight of Dusk (A great cheap card for this deck. Just make sure you always have the mana up to destroy. Since it can be played at instant speed you can kill their creature after blockers are declared and damage is done. This is one of the reasons you should wait until second main to play nonessential spells. Lightwielder Paladin, Knight of Sursi, Mirror Entity, Pentarch Paladin.
Artifacts and lands: Whip of Erebos, Fellwar Stone, Rupture Spire, Path of Ancestry Unclaimed Territory . If you want to splurge a little bit get an Isochron Scepter and put something like Go for the Throat on it.
This are just suggestions. Take all or some. On August 10th the new preconstructed Commander decks come out. In the past these have been pretty awesome for right out of the box. You can always tailor make them. They are normally worth well over the MSRP.
Also don't let the prices here scare you too much. They are just a generalization. You could go to tcgplayer and get better values. Even after you choose, they can optimize your cart to get a lower value.