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Eladamri's Call Discussion
3 days ago
Actually it's 22 of 99 so 22,22% or with 23 of 100 The Ur-Dragon and then straight up 23%, however I prefer the first calculation since we always have our commander aviable as 8th card at the start of each game.
The critical mass you've mentioned I think it's somewhere between 20-21 and getting lower than that might hurt more than it helps, so getting rid of 1-2 from initial 24 might be a good decision.
And Sarkhan's Triumph is actually bad for it's cost - we're better off with Eladamri's Call since it also gets creature to the hand so with Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma , Selvala, Heart of the Wilds and Bloom Tender being good at every point of the game it's straight up upgrade. For there's also Worldly Tutor , which, when used just before our turn is technically getting a card to hand? That might be the correct play of it.
2 weeks ago
May be a matter of perception or comfort level, but I think your early stage ramp is fine without those cards. You're likely to hit turn-four Karametra pretty consistently, and she's ramp on a stick (and hard to remove). Personally, I'd be more concerned about not hitting your fatties / token generators turns 5-8. (speaking of which, highly recommend making room for Eladamri's Call )
As for a high CMC card to cut, I'd prob go with Sandwurm Convergence ; it's a fun card, but it's a little win-more and your slowest token generator by far.
Last thought - acknowledging it would mean a lot of changes - did you consider the white mass token sorceries? Nomads' Assembly is a potential 2-turn win-con with Epic Struggle, and Martial Coup doubles as a board wipe. Just a thought.
2 weeks ago
I haven't fleshed out the description for the new list yet, but the general gist is it takes the ideas from this list and trims down the CMC (TappedOut doesn't do CMC for split cards correctly, so the number it reports is wrong), adds protection effects, efficient standalone token producers, efficient targeted clone spells, and tries to go instant speed where it can, and it removes the slow, narrow, and situational cards. In general, it's faster and more resilient with fewer dead cards and more potential to win out of nowhere.
Notable removals from this deck:
- Mentor effects: Talrand, Sky Summoner , Docent of Perfection Flip, Metallurgic Summonings : Mentor effects are slow, removal magnets, and generally not as good as efficient standalone token producers (the same four mana for Talrand gets you five creatures immediately off Hunted Troll ) or clone spells. These three were cut because they're the most expensive, plus Talrand and Summonings don't have the same synergy with the added clone effects.
- Targeted token makers: Adverse Conditions , AEther Mutation , Supplant Form : Expensive, replaced by cheaper clones like Quasiduplicate . Clones have additional synergy with Hunted creatures and the few ETB utility dudes ( Eternal Witness , Imperial Recruiter , Spellseeker ).
- Wincons: Berserk , Confront the Unknown , Fiery Gambit , Willbreaker : Berserk and Confront have been replaced by Appeal / Authority , though Confront might still be better. Gambit is a 3-mana wincon that's annoying to resolve and still doesn't win through infinite life like LabMan does. It's been replaced by Kari Zev's Expertise , which is a wincon, untap/haste effect for Earthcraft, Cryptolith Rite, and Natural Affinity, and also has the insane ability to cast a spell from your hand for free for each creature, and each of those spells then gets copied as well. Willbreaker is painfully slow, requires you to cast another spell to actually do anything, and doesn't even give the haste/untap from red threaten effects. If the deck needs to pass the turn after it tries to go off, Willbreaker's likely going to get removed anyway.
- Synergy: Isochron Scepter and Unsubstantiate : Too slow, and your cheap instants are redundant enough that you don't really need to be able to repeat a specific one. Plus, most of the time you'd want to put a cantrip on it, and Scepter actually increases the cost of those. These are slow win-more cards that look clever but don't actually end up doing much in practice because the deck is already plenty redundant.
- Hexproof equipment: Swiftfoot Boots and Champion's Helm : Cut for Lightning Greaves . Shroud looks anti-synergistic, but the zero equip cost means you can move it over to a token on your turn when you're ready to do things and it can be used to give a mana army haste for Cryptolith Rite or Natural Affinity. If you need to protect Ink-Treader while actually going off, shroud is worse than hexproof, but generally you'll just wait to go off until you have a protection spell ready.
- Cantrip: Shadow Rift : This was actually the hardest cut. Instant-speed targeted cantrips are what makes the deck tick, and for a while I had Refocus in. I eventually decided that the difference between 10 and 11 1-mana cantrips was negligible, and Shadow Rift is the worst one (it does literally nothing; everything having shadow is the same as nothing having shadow). All of the others have at least some utility or synergy.
There's actually an infinite combo in the deck with Spellseeker + Earthcraft/Cryptolith Rite: With one of the rampchantments and Inktreader in play plus some mana to start, cast Spellseeker into Twinflame . Twinflame (radiated) copies Spellseeker and gets more hasty dudes to tap for mana. New Seeker gets Regrowth , which gets Twinflame back. Twinflame again gets you even more dudes, plus two new Spellseekers. One of those seekers gets Eladamri's Call into Eternal Witness , which gets Twinflame back, the other seeker getting a cantrip. The next Twinflame not only gets you four more seeker-tutors, it also gives you another Witness, which can get back Twinflame again, and further Twinning makes multiple Witnesses so you can get back your graveyard, all while drawing your deck through the cantrips you've seeker'd up and getting an infinite army of hasty dudes for attacking and mana (you're tapping two for Twinflame mana every iteration, but each cast doubles your army size).
The most exciting single new card by far is Electrodominance . For a long time I had Savage Summoning in the list because instant speed is so important for combo decks, and this just replaced it. Dominance has the downside of not being able to cast Ink-Treader from the command zone, but it works on all spell types instead of just creatures, can be used as removal in a pinch, AND it's targeted, which means it has the Kari Zev's Expertise effect of casting a free spell for each creature on the field that then also get radiated. We play targeted indestructible effects for protection and Pongify anyways, so you're likely to not even reduce the creature count from the Dominance damage. EOT radiated Electrodominance for X=3 is generally game.
UsagiBlade on meow
2 weeks ago
Cards to consider adding:
- Fleecemane Lion Should have been in the precon, really good cat
- Leonin Warleader
- Regal Caracal
- Prowling Serpopard
- Lost Leonin
- Chameleon Colossus
- Adorned Pouncer
- Lifecrafter's Bestiary cheap and effective card draw
- Swords to Plowshares Best removal spell in EDH
- Beast Within Also quite good removal since it can remove any nonland permanent
- Eladamri's Call Get the best creature for the current situation out of the deck
- Open the Armory Get the best equipment from the deck
Cards to consider cutting:
- Stalking Leonin Ability is a bit to narrow against multiple opponents
- Pouncing Cheetah Not good enough for its mana costs
- Watchers of the Dead Opponent can choose what cards he keeps
- Phantom Nishoba Not good enough for 7 mana
- Raksha Golden Cub Needs to be equipped to be good, otherwise a 3/4 for 7 mana is really bad.
- Sunspear Shikari
- Vivid Meadow A basic land is better in a two colored deck
- Vivid Grove Same as above
- Saltcrusted Steppe Storage counter lands are not good, a basic land is better here
- Hero's Blade No evasion (trample) or other good effects like Sword of the Animist
- Navigator's Compass 3 life once doesn't make any difference overall and it doesn't produce mana on its own like Selesnya Signet
3 weeks ago
Ok well first things first you need to look at what your commander wants from you. Roon has the ability to manipulate creatures on the battlefield: whether they're your own or an opponent. He can blink opponents creatures from combat if there is one that's causing you grief, blink a big defender in the way of one of your attacks, and (most importantly) he can blink your own creatures and cause their ETB effects to trigger. So we'll need creatures that can:
1) Ramp 2) Control the Battlefield 3) Generate some Card Advantage/Utility/Tutor 4) Enable Aggro
Now of course given Roon's colors there is lots of room to pop in some great non-creature spells as well. We're looking for anything that can grab us whatever we need from our creature toolbox, manipulate the field to our advantage, and of course some effective removal as well.
So for ramp I'm thinking:
For Battlefield control:
- Acidic Slime - Angel of Serenity - Bane of Progress - Duplicant - Knight of Autumn - Reclamation Sage - Terastodon - Venser, Shaper Savant - Austere Command - Supreme Verdict - Cyclonic Rift - Eerie Interlude - Aura Shards
- Ephara, God of the Polis - Eternal Witness - Karmic Guide - Mulldrifter - Prime Speaker Zegana - Recruiter of the Guard - Reveillark - Seedborn Muse - Sun Titan - Woodland Bellower - Eldritch Evolution - Green Sun's Zenith - Tooth and Nail - Wargate - Chord of Calling - Eladamri's Call - Birthing Pod - Garruk, Caller of Beasts - Venser, the Sojourner
And those are just to name a few cards. Of course you have access to a lot of ETB copy stuff like Clever Impersonator that turn into whatever you want it to turn into when you blink it in; they can really turn the tide in your favor. I did up a proto-type deck here: Roon Proto-Type. Give it a test run and let me know what you think about it.
1 month ago
Ok, made a few changes.
Out: Tymna, Walking Ballista, Worldly Tutor, and Abzan Battle Priest.
Raised my avg cmc. to 2.86 which I'm still happy with.
1 month ago
Gishath, Sun's Avatar requires kind of an aggro strategy. You'll almost never win by casting dino after dino and swinging. Your goal has to be cast him as soon as possible then swing for cheat dinos into play. Extra combat steps really help with that. So you should be looking for each ramp card that can get you to 8 mana. Going over 10 ramp cards is almost a must, given the mana cost of this commander. Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Explosive Vegetation , Circuitous Route , Skyshroud Claim and Hour of Promise should do the trick. // These are some ways you can get to 8 mana: Nature's Lore / Farseek / Rampant Growth / Sakura-Tribe Elder + Explosive Vegetation / Circuitous Route / Skyshroud Claim + Temple of the False God (or just wait a turn). Cultivate / Kodama's Reach + Hour of Promise (grabbing Temple of the False God and Boros Garrison ) will also do the trick. // You can take off some cards that don't synergize with the deck: Rootborn Defenses , Unbreakable Formation , Eerie Interlude ( Boros Charm and Heroic Intervention are enough protection), Onward (they can see it coming), Reinforcements (this is only useful when Gishath connects, otherwise is a dead card). // Gishath, Sun's Avatar requires kind of an aggro strategy. Your goal is to cast him as soon as possible. So you should be looking for each ramp card that can get you to 8 mana. Going over 10 ramp cards is almost a must, given the mana cost of this commander. Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Explosive Vegetation , Circuitous Route , Skyshroud Claim and Hour of Promise should do the trick. // Eladamri's Call is better than Congregation at Dawn (if you have 11+ mana to cast both Gishath and Congregation, you should already be winning the game). But I don't think you should bother with tutors, since this is not a combo deck. You should focus on connecting with Gishath, and keeping your board state for the next swing. // Harmonize is never a bad card in decks without blue or black. You might need some cards when you don't have a creature. // Austere Command , Cleansing Nova , Blasphemous Act ( Akroma's Memorial protects your creatures from B. Act), Harsh Mercy , Mass Calcify , Solar Tide and Rout are better boardwipes than Wrath of God in this deck, since mana is never a problem for Gishath. Catastrophe , Armageddon and Decree of Annihilation if you feel like swinging without oposition.
1 month ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help.
These colors can take great advantage of Protean Hulk and Reveillark with Flash . Not with infinite combos which you don't want to play, but as value creature engines. Creatures such as Karmic Guide , Phyrexian Delver , Body Double , Phyrexian Metamorph , Phantasmal Image can reanimate or copy Hulk or Lark. Viscera Seer and Carrion Feeder are one drop sac outlets; one CMC is helpful when you can only search for six CMC of creatures with Hulk.
For your budget there's five cards that I suggest you play whatever direction you choose to go (one you're already playing):
These five cards are amazing repeatable draw or ramp in multiplayer Commander. These colors are great for tutors. For your budget consider adding these cards:
When you get to the phase to add lands and more ramp consider:
I think Talismans are better than Signets since you can use a Talisman to make mana the turn you play it without needing another mana or land. Consider Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Unity and Talisman of Dominance ? If you're planning on playing ABUR Duals, Shock lands, Battle lands or combination of these then consider adding Farseek and Nature's Lore ? These two drop land ramp spells are helpful to search for and put a dual land onto the battlefield.
Good luck with your deck.
Eladamri's Call occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
GW (Selesnya): 1.49%
GWU (Bant): 0.94%