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BMHKain says... #1

Anyways, resuming work on my Superfriends deck...

Sliver Queen, Spark Harvesting Hive Mind

Commander / EDH* BMHKain


I still need ~17 cuts for both decks now... the hardest ~34 overall cuts to be made. Not sure if you think stuff like additional Pillowfort is needed here, but I want your opinions on the cEDH Boros deck anyway, & what final cards to add/remove, & I'll cover the rest. Still okay, enpc? Sorry for such massive pestering, sir.

July 31, 2018 2:36 p.m.

BMHKain says... #2

@enpc: Just got to 17 cuts remaining for cEDH Boros. I'd like to see if the changes I made on my own are going to be good enough for Tier 2.5 level or better gameplay still... Thanks in advance, & if I cut something very good that was on previously, tell me what to cut for in exchange. BTW, still working on the Damage theme, & Stax & Combo subthemes. Hope they're still good...

July 31, 2018 12:49 p.m.

BMHKain says... #3

Well, 24 hours have passed. What ~40 cut, as well as suggestions do you have? I'll work on my Superfriends deck until then...

(Hopes Aminatou, the Fateshifter & Estrid, the Masked ae good in Superfriends...)

July 31, 2018 8:52 a.m.

BMHKain says... #4

@enpc: Just redux the deck in question...

Still willing to help?

July 29, 2018 1:15 p.m.

BMHKain says... #5

Gisela Purifies the Non-Believers of cEDH Boros

Commander / EDH* BMHKain


Anyways, cut some stuff, but added more in response. Just got another Damage Doubler (Switching to Dictate of the Twin Gods...). Tried to find some help, but they are busy otherwise. I don't need help with Superfriends right now; my Primary Directive is already stressed enough. I actually found some stuff you'd be surprised in such colors. (Bygone Bishop has Investigate, which can lead to Card Advantage for instance.) I think outside of the Commander, 3 drop creatures seem good here. But I'm trying to get JUST below CMC2. Anyways, enpc, if I were able to do so, & you want to help at all, We'll split the credit evenly. Please respond when you're willing to help. Oh, & for Gisela, Blade of Goldnight needing Vigilance, do you think Serra's Blessing might help?) Thank you if you're able to help... ;)

July 29, 2018 8:49 a.m.

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That makes a lot of sense.

August 17, 2018 7:06 a.m.

List looks good. Out of curiosity, why are you running Flamekin Spitfire over Spikeshot Elder? I know it's not much but Elder reduces your life loss off Ad Naus and once you generate infinite red the cost of the ability is irrelevant.

August 17, 2018 12:03 a.m.

TriusMalarky: It's 100 card singleton but that's basically where its similarities with commander stop. It's more like vintage with 100 card decks.

We have found it especially good to get into after playing a lot of commander where you haev some really powerful cards lying aroung but don't have a playset of them. And becasue it's only 20 life per player, you don't run into the aggro problem that you would with commander.

That and it lets you play all of the dick cards you don't want to run in commander. One of my friends has a deck which is about running out a bunch of artifact ramp and then playing a bunch of MLD, one of his favourite being Wildfire. My girlfriend has a super efficient abzan beatdown +1/+1 counters deck. I run a 5 colour monstrosity (list is here for reference) built around super value creatures and removal.

As an edh combo player (I can't not put at least one infinite comob in every deck I play), I find it really refreshing to have a format where I can run a completely comboless list which just revolves around wrecking hands and boardstates and then beating face.

August 16, 2018 8:26 p.m.

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August 16, 2018 7:20 a.m.

Depending on each player's card pool and the number of players you want in each game, I have found Canadian Highlander to be a fun format. We house rule that you can run any points card (check out the rules here) can be a proxy, however no non-points cards can be. It means that you can run some stupid broken builds without breaking the bank. For example, I run a 5 colour deck which sports a proxied Ancestral Recall that makes up 5/6 of the deck's actual paper cost.

The other thing about it is taht becasue it's a one-v-one format, you can play all the cards that you would be hated out for playing in a multiplayer setting, because that's the nature of of the format.

August 15, 2018 11:27 p.m.

I have been spending a bit of time looking into Aurelia, the Warleader decks and have put this list together:

Bed Hair: cEDH Edition

Commander / EDH* enpc


which I would like to submit as there is currently no deck listed for Aurelia.

I would also love to get feedback on the deck if people have time.

August 15, 2018 10:15 p.m.

Said on Knight Tribal...


If this is a kitchen table deck you shouldn't list the format as Standard, it should probably be Casual.

As for recommendations, Swords to Plowshares would be good - having removal in the deck is never a bad idea.

August 15, 2018 9:58 p.m.

Said on Storming on the ......


They both act as cantrips with your commander and while not free (like Dark Sphere) they potentially can be with Etherium Sculptor. They also can generate a second card with the draw ability, as well as help get rid of pesky cards like Spirit of the Labyrinth.

Pyrite Spellbomb also forms a backup win condition with Timetwister and Conjurer's Bauble, though you can do the same with Swan Song already. Just food for thought.

August 15, 2018 10:17 a.m.

Said on SlitherHead Playmat...


If you can get a high res image, you can get a custom mat printed. Inked Gaming is one of those places. Might be easier than trying to find one.

August 14, 2018 11:20 p.m.

Said on In Control For ......


Since you're already packing Strionic Resonator, you could look at running Cloudform/Lightform which let you play all of the permanents in your deck once you start the Brago chain. You can also use stuff like Inquisitor Exarch to outright finish the game.

August 14, 2018 2:42 a.m.

Said on Crucible of Worlds...


Ultimately it depends on the theme of the deck. I have one deck which has 7 fetches (plus a few self sacrificing lands like Strip Mine) and I absolutely run Crucible of Worlds in that deck. I have another deck however where I run 9 fetches but don't Crucible.

The first deck has a lot more of a land focus and is desigend to recur lands and get value from lands entering play. The second deck is four colour but has a heavy artifact ramp combo theme. So in that deck, playing lots of lands doesn't really mean much.

For a Lord Windgrace deck it would make lots of sense to include both Crucible of Worlds and Ramunap Excavator, however for Edgar Markov, I wouldn't value it as heavily as dedicated ramp.

August 14, 2018 2:33 a.m.

Have you thought about using Aether Spellbomb and Pyrite Spellbomb since they are cheap cantrips but can also provide value?

August 13, 2018 9:09 p.m.

Said on #SorryNotSorry...

August 9, 2018 10:24 a.m.

Tiny_Sir: I got pretty bang on $100 with this as an example deck:

Example Budget Meren

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I hope this helps.

August 9, 2018 1:29 a.m.

Depending on what you build, you may be able to budget even up to 40% of the cost of the deck as lands.

Do you know your preference of playstyle? From haveing a quick glance at your decks, I'm getting a "turn sideways for lots" kind of vibe. May I recommend Meren of Clan Nel Toth? She is a bit expensive to get, however reanimator gives you access to both green (ramp/removal) as well as black (tutroing/removal). It also adds a level of resilience to your deck.

You also get access to the tainted cycle (Tainted Wood).

August 9, 2018 12:45 a.m.

In a lot of ways, you're better off figuring out the kind of deck you want to play first and then decide if the deck is mono or dual coloured rather than just picking a commadner for their colour(s). While your landbase will be more expensive with a dual coloured deck, there are things you can do to mitigate this, even on a budget.

Shock Lands (eg. Hallowed Fountain), Check lands (eg. Glacial Fortress), Fast Lands (eg. Seachrome Coast), Pain Lands (eg. Adarkar Wastes), as well as a slew of fixing like Command Tower, Exotic Orchard, City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Forbidden Orchard, etc. can all help keep costs down without having to splurge on ABURs (eg. Tundra) or even Fetches (eg. Flooded Strand), however some of the fetches in your colour might be within you price range. Thought I understand getting all 7 can be expensive.

August 8, 2018 11:54 p.m.

Garruk's Horde could be a good piece of card advantage for the deck. And a 7/7 with trample for 5 mana seems decent.

August 8, 2018 11:17 p.m.

I'm not saying you need to delve into lots of technical theory, my concern is that there is a certain vibe of "You can either win with a combo deck or... You know what, just play combo." Hell, your words are: "Well, though some decks (normally stax decks) can pull this off, I don't recommend it". I get that it's not as strong as combo when played as just pure aggro, but in the context of stax it can be incredibly effective.

Again, I get that beatdown isn't as represented in cEDH and that most beatdown decks will have a combo line out, however the fundamental design of the deck is not a combo deck. And yes, in the case of Edric you're chaining extra turn spells, but I still wouldn't call it combo. The problem with labelling everything which isn't "turn sideways, pass turn and hope you get to do it again" as combo both dilutes what actual combo is and can cause a lot of confusion. After all, Edric decks are usually digging for their Notorious Throng to close games out.

Storm however I would consider to be a combo deck. While it's not your classic "I generate infinite mana and then wreck you with Comet Storm" type deal, the look and feel of the deck is that of combo. You are daisy chaining plenty of spells which are generally netting you a lot of mana, only to power some sort of finisher.

But looking at macro, my issue is that your primer is glossing over the concept of aggro from a fundamentals point of view. I know it's under-represented because raw aggro is not as strong, but it's still a thing. Please don't get me wrong, I do think that for the most part what you're saying is fine and I think that there's some really good stuff in there. I just think it's worth talking about the combo/aggro/control triangle because it is the fundamentals of how MtG works.

As a side note with Eidolon of Blossoms, I run it alongside Elvish Visionary. Eidolon can fulfil the same kind of roles, however it also generates extra value with any other enchantment in the deck, but especially Gift of Immortality. And with Lead the Stampede vs Harmonize, it depends on what you're digging for. If it's a creature, sure. But of you're looking for an enchantment or artifact (Like Blasting Station, the staple win condition for a Saffi Eriksdotter deck), Harmonize is the better choice. Don't get me wrong, I don't personally run either however it's not a bad include, depending on build style.

August 8, 2018 11:06 p.m.

Overall I think that this list is quite useful, however I would provide some feedback.

I don't think it's as clean cut as just choosing your archetype and then choosing your win condition from that. In magic, regardless of the format (with some exceptions), you will always have the triangle of Aggro, Combo and Control. Ultimately there are two ways of winning a game in Magic, either beatdown or combo (short of a few "I win" cards which can still be classified as combo I guess). So the triangle becomes Aggro, Combo and Control:Aggro/Combo.

Stax and Control are two different categories, you're correct, however they both fall under the overarching Control parent category. They are both permission based in that they try to take permissions away from a player. In the case of stereotypical control, it's a reactive strategy where you counter/remove threats and in the case of stax, it's just proactive control - trying to starve your opponent of resources before they can play them/threats.

But saying that Aggro is not an archetype is incorrect. It may be under-represented, however it still exists.

There are definitely some blurred lines here, but it's important to represent the category. You can have a deck which runs counterspells, but is still fundamentally a combo deck, not a control deck. you can have a control deck that runs aggro as it's win condition. Sure, it's not typically going to be very good, but you can still do it. Control Voltron decks are a thing after all. While not as optimised as Doomsday Zur, you can and do see control/Stax Zur beatdown lists. And decks like Edric, Spymaster of Trest are legitimate aggro decks. Yes they run counterspells, but it's in the same way that a Yidris Storm deck runs them - to help protect the deck's strategy.

On top of this, with a decent chunk of stax decks, the primary win condition is actually beatdown. This is because they prey on the fact that most cEDH decks are not very creature heavy (dorks aside) and so are designed to punish "spell" heavy decks. Asymmetric cards like Linvala, Keeper of Silence definitely help, but most stax decks will rely on creatures to do most of the work.

The other piece of feedback that I would provide is that it's important that you don't turn this into a "List of Staple cEDH Cards". You have some really good advice about card selection and while you can provide some examples, I would recommend actually keeping these to a minimum. The reason for this is that you're better off talking about the why and then letting people decide for themselves if a card is a good fit. Harmonize can be really decent draw in a mono green deck when you can cast it turn two with no issues. Hell, I run Eidolon of Blossoms in my Saffi Eriksdotter deck and while no, it's not the most comeptitive list it still does pretty well. And Eidolon at fist glimpse might seem bad, but is actually a powerhouse. We see cards like Sire Of Insanity at the top end of Blood Pod lists. Definitively saying a card is or isn't cEDH worth stifles creatively and leads to stagnant lists, which flies completely in the face of what this primer is about. I really think for lists like this it's worth applying the "teach a man to fish" strategy. I get that sometimes it's more work to write as you have to explain the why, but it yields much better results.

On the whole though, the primer is good and I hope my advice helps.

August 8, 2018 12:17 a.m.

for politics, both Tempt with Vengeance and Death by Dragons are amusing.

Also, Mardu is , Jund is .

August 7, 2018 11:15 p.m.


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