|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Commander 2018 (C18)||Rare|
|Modern Masters 2017 Edition (MM3)||Rare|
|From the Vault: Annihilation (V14)||Mythic Rare|
|Avacyn Restored (AVR)||Rare|
Combos Browse all
Put all creatures on the bottom of their owners' libraries.
Miracle [[symbol:W[[ (You may cast this card for its miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn.)
|Have (9)||, Pumpkinking913 , CampbellStev , Mortiferus_Rosa , metalmagic , robbnoble , saj0219 , Noobly , Skulldrey|
|Want (5)||RicoTravelz , russellroberts1 , gosora , fartbuckets , chaoticmcunited|
2 weeks ago
So I'm not sure if you are on a budget, but I would highly recommend Fatal Push , Path to Exile , Serum Visions , Terminus , and Mana Leak . Also you need at least 4 more lands to reliably cast anything over 3cmc if you aren't looking to shell out the money for fetches and shocks than I would go with River of Tears , Temple of Enlightenment , Temple of Deceit , Temple of Silence no more than 6-8 total etb tapped as you want to still be able to play spells on curve.
2 weeks ago
I would recommend taking some creatures out and putting in more board wipe effects.
Maybe 2 or 3 more lands, XD
Otherwise looks like a fun deck to play with!
2 weeks ago
Nah, best deck so far was an Esper Control variant using Aminatou, the Fateshifter , a lot for colors, but it has some good synergies. Approach of the Second Sun is the Signature Spell and win condition.
You use Pithing Needle and Sorcerous Spyglass as walker hate, and Aminatou can flicker it to name a new walker need be, or with Spyglass to see a new hand. The list runs other walker hate like Suppression Field too because Aminatou isn't super necessary.
Spellseeker , Baleful Strix , and a few other creatures show in the list ( Snapcaster Mage , etc.) with Aminatou can be pure value, but Vampiric Tutor style effects with Aminatou's +1 can get us the answers we need when we need them, and with a toolbox of the best control spells from Terminus (Aminatou synergy, and synergy with our tutors to top), Toxic Deluge , and Supreme Verdict for sweepers, Liliana's Triumph , Grasp of Fate (Aminatou synergy), and all of the other most efficient 3 for ones in multiplayer are showcased as well.
Does it seem to be the best deck? I can't find any lists that have a higher win rate.
The other contenders are Saheeli (Sublime Artificer)/Thoughtcast, with tons of artifact-storm cards.
New Jace/ Stroke of Genius , with Dramatic Reversal / Isochron Scepter and other infinite mana combos, playing some control-combo deck that uses its cards for value until it hits an infinite mana combo and wins.
Liliana of the Veil / Liliana's Triumph is a list I find pretty insane, it runs Smallpox , Pox , Chains of Mephistopheles , etc. for a fast and brutal mono-black list. Variants I have seen run Pox, Vamp Tutor, Demonic Tutor, and Smallpox as the Signature spell too, but one-sided Smallpox that doesn't hit life or lands, but is an instant seems the best so far.
Want more fun?
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded and Gamble , using gamble to set up rituals, and tibalt to discard and dig for more, until you find Empty the Warrens (wincon) and even if you discard it, you then fetch Past in Flames , cast it or flash it back if you discarded it, spam through your rituals, then cast or flashback Empty and win with 50 tokens.
2 weeks ago
Look at the modern metagame. Most decks fall into one of two categories. The first is aggressive persistent linear aggro. These include Phoenix, Dredge, Humans, Affinity, Burn. To beat these decks you need to shut them down hard. Wrath of God is a good start, but you only have 2 copies and Phoenix and Dredge only somewhat care about Wrath. Phoenix and Dredge are why UW Control usually plays Terminus . Tucking creatures is a really powerful effect. Nonetheless, the WAR cards do almost nothing to interact with these decks. Kefnet is an okay blocker, but that doesn't really matter when humans has Reflector Mage and phoenix has Lightning Axe . Teferi is so durdly. Bouncing an opposing creature is not good interaction. And Deliver is 3 mana to get back the 3rd and 4th best cards from your graveyard, which is kind of terrible. I'm pretty sure there are better 3 mana recursion spells that still see no play because graveyard recursion isn't good unless it's done by Snapcaster Mage . Gifts Ungiven isn't played for value. It's played as a double Entomb , with value as a backup plan if entombing is bad.
The other type of deck is decks that go over the top. UW Control, Tron, Amulet Titan, even BGx and Grixis Death's Shadow. The first 3 especially try to do something powerful that's hard to interact with and will win the game if left unchecked. Imagine playing Kefnet or Teferi vs Tron. They'll slam Karn, Wurmcoil, Ugin, or Ulamog and no matter how it goes they're in a much much better spot. The story is the same vs Amulet Titan. And the finishers in UW Control are much better. Teferi, Hero of Dominaria can deal with your threats effectively and Cryptic Command will pull them ahead. When facing UW Control is the only time Teferi, Time Raveler might be good, and even then I'm not convinced.
Karn is a very good card, and I think the archetype has potential, but frankly you've built this deck to take down standard. Modern is a totally different beast.
3 weeks ago
Wall of Omens alongside Delver of Secrets Flip isn't where you want to be. Get rid of one or the other. I highly highly recommend 4 Spell Queller . If you want to play Restoration Angel , I don't think Monastery Mentor will be better than Geist or Queller. But if you wanted to go a different direction and play fewer creatures and tons of cantrips, then Monastery Mentor could be insane. Medomai the Ageless is 6 mana. Don't play it. Ojutai is greedy enough as it is.
Opt is popular in UW because it can hit Terminus . In this I think Serum Visions is better, especially if you're trying to flip Delver of Secrets. But on the whole this doesn't really look or feel like a delver deck.
I guess, what do you want to play? What cards are you attached to building around?
3 weeks ago
I don't care who says it, be it the allmighty, or channelfireball or whomever else. Terminus is not a bad card. Its brutal against phoenix & dredge, where you don't exactly want to see hardcast phoenixes, early(er than usual) drakes, fast flipping titi, open mana for counters, or a board flooded with hardcast creatures, hardcast creeping chills, and conflagrates, and we also have to acknowledge that it can be cast on turn 2 & 3 - its only competition is Settle the Wreckage , which can hurt you later game, can be slower and loose you the game, most other wrath are very lacking in the current meta. However for my deck it doesn't matter which one does my opponent use - i am somewhat fucked either way.
For control, i can present a pretty reasonable clock (swing for 3 on turn 2, swing for 8 on turn 3), and more importantly, noone expects magus of the moon out of an RW deck, and once its down, you cannot get any but red mana. Cards like gaddock teeg also help a LOT, not to mention that Life's Legacy allows me to rebuild my hand an board pretty reasonably. My problem with control is that i can only go with my beatdown plan, since my combo plan - unlike against other decks doesn't work.
Aegis of the Gods is in the sideboard to combat decks like ad nauseam, mill, present a must kill (cheap) target against targeted discard GB(x), 8-rack (which is relevant since my bro is an 8-rack fanatic), and its also a must kill creature for burn. Its also not my only viable cards in these matchups, as Eidolon of Rhetoric , Gaddock Teeg , also hinder the enemy.
THE POINT OF THIS DECK IS THAT EVERY CREATURE IN THE SIDEBOARD HAS 4 ADDITIONAL COPIES IN Eldritch Evolution . Thus to have the same chances of drawing the effect i have to play 4x Leyline of Sanctity and 1x Ivory Mask .
In previous iterations, i used to rely more heavily on lands, running 4 copies of Knight of the Reliquary in my 75 to enable this, i also played Sejiri Steppe in stead of Endless Sands , as it allowed knight to act as Mother of Runes - sadly it simply didn't work out. And i tend to have lots of creatures, since all my effects are attached to a body (and most of them come back from the grave), not to mention, my 4 of It of the Horrid Swarm creates plenty of tokens to be buffed. I would also like to point out that by the time i have 5 lands to enable activation of Gavony Township Strangleroot Geist tends to die at least once - so it already has a +1/+1 counter, meaning undying is already off the table
3 weeks ago
- For against control you need to have a fast clock, so the best thing you can do is find multiple responses or change how you swing.
- Terminus is actually a bad card according to channel fireball its really weird.
- Settle the Wreckage is an amazing card but you have tools to play around it. 1) dont full swing if they can cast it 2) if they do you can respond with your Endless Sands and get it back later. 3) practice playing against control so you can get used to playing against it. Its an awkward matchup.
1 month ago
Looking good. Mark of Fury is okay, but has to survive till EOT. I hate 1 removal giving a 2 for 1. Maybe double up on your Expedite with Crimson Wisps . I like it better because it can still draw you an A/D/D to cast with the haste Kaalia of the Vast .
I see your playing Terramorphic Expanse , there's definitely other better fetch lands, but don't forget about Evolving Wilds . I don't recommend either because I hate tapped mana (except Bojuka Bog ).
Obviously Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Restoration Angel or Village Bell-Ringer go infinite, but there is also Combat Celebrant and Zealous Conscripts as well, but of course relies on the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker quite heavily.
Also, not sure if you've mapped out all your Infinite combos, but don't forget you have:
Tainted Pact is an inexpensive (and instant) speed tutor, the problem is, you can't have any duplicate lands in your deck (even duplicate basic lands) so that's where it gets expensive. There's also Demonic Consultation if your a gambler lol, damn those top 6, it's also instant so can pull a Master of Cruelties if Kaalia of the Vast triggered ability gets on the stack, tutor for the killer.
You may want Crucible of Worlds , it works best with all the fetches like Windswept Heath , Wooded Foothills all the fetch lands, but also is awesome with Strip Mine or Wasteland ($$$). If you have Crucible of Worlds + a Fetch land, basically can filter out all the mana from the deck (while ramping) so when you draw it's usually favorable. I've contemplated it over Chromatic Lantern but don't have one to test, although reasonably priced since reprint.
I have similar worries around Cartouche of Zeal (2 for 1), but when you need haste you need it. I like Leyline of the Void more than Tormod's Crypt , Relic of Progenitus for sure, since it's a lasting effect and CMC0 in opening hand, and prevents the Experience from getting earned at all. But they are ok at the job. Relic of Progenitus would be amazing if it could target the card, but it has more utility than Tormod's Crypt anyway even with the downside.
Be careful with Angel of Jubilation he shuts down your deck too, like Goblin Bombardment , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Necropotence , Phyrexian Reclamation , Diabolic Intent (might be wrong on this one would have to check the rule book on additional costs), Mana Confluence , Bloodstained Mire (or any Fetch).
Maybe Blood Crypt / Godless Shrine / Sacred Foundry probably enter tapped too (again this one would have to read the rulebook too, not sure if that's considered paying a cost to "activate abilities" probably not because it doesn't have the : symbol on it.
City of Brass is another good multi-color mana asource.
Terminus is a terrific way of getting rid of all those recurring creatures too (unless he can sac them all in response somehow).
I might have mentioned before, Angel of Despair is far superior to someone like Angel of Jubilation unless she's solving a specific pod problem for disruption to your deck. Hellkite Tyrant is hand if you play artifact decks like Breya, Etherium Shaper or Teferi, Temporal Archmage .
Mother of Runes can give protection if your facing Targeted removal.
Some ideas anyway, the reprinted fetches like Windswept Heath are fairly cheap still (I think).
Terminus occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.09%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.03%
W/U/B (Esper): 0.61%