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|Archenemy: Nicol Bolas (E01)||Rare|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Rare|
|2012 Core Set (M12)||Rare|
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Creature — Human Cleric
During your turn, your opponents can't cast spells or activate abilities of artifacts, creatures or enchantments.
Grand Abolisher Discussion
1 day ago
Hi! I like the deck and Soldier tribe is among my favorites. Just some ideas. Lands: Eiganjo Castle for more protection, Westvale Abbey Flip as an alternative wincon. Creatures: Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip (turns into a Planeswalker easily), Hanweir Militia Captain Flip (more tokens to transform Westvale Abbey Flip), Selfless Spirit to protect your army, Tithe Taker ( Grand Abolisher looks much better but Tithe Taker is a Soldier), Baird, Steward of Argive (an element of pillowfort strategy), Selfless Squire - to protect yourself. Sorceries: Conqueror's Pledge for more tokens. Artifacts: Pennon Blade and Stoneforge Masterwork . Good luck!
3 days ago
U/W Control is favorable, the problem that deck has specifically is that we have inevitability over them. The control deck can't realistically expect to win if they never play a threat, and if they mis-time playing that threat they can lose on the spot. It really is a matter of patience and not getting too jumpy with going off. Their best plan is to try to stick a Jace, the Mind Sculptor at a point where we can't feasibly combo and fate seal to victory. That's the dream for them; for us its to get to at least 6 mana as quick as possible and play conservatively, they are at an onus to not counter anything but Ad Nauseam , anything else is risky and can be the game. For us then, its about crafting a hand that has at least 2 Pact of Negation in it, that is usually pretty hard for them to beat, especially if they try to tap for anything to progress towards winning the game; our goal is to present a scenario where we can win if they ever try to commit, they need to play very very smart, the onus is really on them to pick their moments, we just have to observe. Mystical Teachings also is often great in this matchup, I've had control players stare down a Mystical Teachings at end step, knowing it is getting a Pact of Negation , put in a lose-lose situation as, if it resolves, they don't have the mana to beat 2 Pact of Negation , and if they counter it they can't beat 1.
I've had a few players express how much they dislike the matchup, but to me it's really just a matter of being patient, sometimes keeping a below average hand with just acceleration, dig, and Pact of Negation , simply because a smart control player is not going to try and win quickly and play as though you always have it.
After sideboard, because I never leave home with at least 1 Grand Abolisher type effect and if control was feeling worse I would probably also have a Swan Song , while it gets a bit more complicated because of Dispel changing the math, overall we are still favored; the one exception perhaps being Esper Control just because they have access to Thoughtseize + Surgical Extraction .
Overall my record against U/W (+Esper since I began recording a couple months ago I have lumped those two together as they play out similarly) is 33-3-13, so about 67%, the majority of the loses coming to decks with the black splash. Its a hard matchup if you don't know what you are doing, but we have the advantage as long as you are smart (keep in mind though that there is a point of no return with a deck like control, like we aren't going to win if they have 20 lands out and 7 counters in hand but if it ever gets to that point the game probably should have ended ages ago). :P
5 days ago
I was thinking about my Reveillark alternative win-con's,
Hatred is CMC5 () and just needs Kaalia of the Vast but also likes guys like Baneslayer Angel , Gisela, Blade of Goldnight , Gisela, the Broken Blade , Lyra Dawnbringer , Serra Ascendant or Whip of Erebos .
Was thinking, it's a different win-con (only 1 player too in some cases), but other than being high CMC, would allow me to cheat in an A/D/D and Commander Damage kill a player if left unblocked as well (Instant speed).
Combat Celebrant is enticing because of his CMC3 (), other than his obvious Exert ability which can land 2 A/D/D in 1 turn, do some mass damage with someone like Balefire Dragon or Gisela, Blade of Goldnight , but his real power is that he doesn't need the sac outlet.
Potentially a win-con with someone like, Avacyn, Angel of Hope , Demonlord Belzenlok , Doom Whisperer , Hellkite Tyrant , Razaketh, the Foulblooded , Etc. unless there is something large enough to block the Trample indefinitely. Doesn't matter if Combat Celebrant is blocked, just making the copy, allows for the next attack to occur. Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker never gets in harms way.
I'm sure there are more ways to abuse him, Splinter Twin obviously, which doesn't work with Buried Alive but can replace Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker in most/all? combos too. could tutor Splinter Twin pretty easily. Idyllic Tutor for example could also pull me an Animate Dead etc, feel there could be some good build out around Combat Celebrant for combos, and just his natural talent when attacking with large A/D/D.
Adarkar Valkyrie also gave me:
I just found neither Adarkar Valkyrie or Aurelia, the Warleader properly ETB triggered with Kaalia of the Vast , and I was never tutoring either of them because they aren't that impactful, so ended up removing Adarkar Valkyrie and then later Aurelia, the Warleader to focus more on the primary win-con with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Restoration Angel .
Crucible of Worlds more inline with a classic Kaalia of the Vast , which the Infinite Combat phases + Land Destruction is part of the reason (as well to a degree the amount of hate Kaalia of the Vast receives as a commander), is why she fell to Tier 3, from Tier 2.5 previously. If I have a Grand Abolisher I don't care, but if I don't, sometimes there is surprise when they have 40 life and think they are unkillable by Kaalia of the Vast and leave themselves open and I can swoop in on T4 with the Restoration Angel horde!
It's been a long time since I needed to resort to Reveillark , either I've won, or someone else has combo'd before I really get to a point of attempting a Reveillark win. Combat Celebrant , I feel like I could also use, Entomb / Gamble , example:
Entomb > Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Mausoleum Secrets > Reanimate . With a Combat Celebrant and anything to attack with, I'm good to go. ( Entomb makes Mausoleum Secrets more valuable to me too). He also doesn't get haste from Dragon Tempest either, so that's another negative.
He can't really Turn 1 so that's kinda why I was thinking more along the lines of Hatred even without augmenting the Lifelink. Life also fuels my speed, Draw/Mana/Tutor, so not sure of the impact to my game post Hatred .
Dark Ritual , Simian Spirit Guide , Mox Diamond all increase T1 potential, but I always worry about, outside of T1 do they have much value. Dark Ritual can cast a Necropotence so it has some benefit and with other cards Buried Alive + Reanimate .
My current challenge is Faithless Looting , I think it needs to go back in, have to decide what to remove. In games where I draw my Karmic Guide or Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker I'm usually like T9 because I have to actually cast them and at CMC5, it's just not realistic with the other costs ( Buried Alive CMC3 and Reanimate CMC1) thats, CMC9, never going to happen. A Faithless Looting makes it CMC5 only. Faithless Looting also has some nice synergies if I don't have an A/D/D in my hand and Kaalia of the Vast is ready to go.
I agree, when is a deck every truly complete. Ever time I play I learn something new about my deck, or a Razaketh, the Foulblooded comes a long and takes over top dog spot in my decklist, and makes Griselbrand being Griselbanned a little easier to take.
1 week ago
Also weezel, make sure that if you're including a Tainted Pact (most valuable tutor), usually to a Master of Cruelties with a Kaalia of the Vast triggered ability on the stack, or into a Razaketh, the Foulblooded and sac the Kaalia of the Vast to pull my win-con, however, you can only have 1 of each basic land Plains , Swamp , Mountain (I don't even play the Mountain ), otherwise your Tainted Pact can ground itself out if you pull 2x Plains for example.
Thought I would mention incase you handn't had that experience yet. CMC2 Instant Tutor though, it's critical. Also, I played Ancient Tomb for a very long time, ended up moving it to my Arahbo, Roar of the World deck. It never really worked properly. Everything in is or , or like Grand Abolisher . It does help with the Buried Alive cast though! I found other than Chrome Mox , the rocks were giving me enough mana, needed the lands to produce the colors. If you exclude all the A/D/D that I never cast, my CMC is 2.00 avg, 1.92 avg if I remove the Reveillark which may become a Combat Celebrant or Hatred or something, I don't know yet, re-evaluating my alternate win-con, I never use the Reveillark .
What are your thoughts on Crucible of Worlds , with a Fetch land it can get to hard casing A/D/D, but still feels too slow? What do I need all that mana for anyway.
1 week ago
I've got some suggestions for you that will hopefully help you out..
Blinding Angel - Can help stall decks that are highly aggro if she hits.
Grand Abolisher - Keeps you safe from having your stuff countered on your turn.
Beacon of Immortality - To help out with your two win cons.
Hall of the Bandit Lord - Haste in mono white?!
1 week ago
Also I think 34 lands in a little low, how does the deck perform currently? Are you missing land drops?
1 week ago
@ I'll keep that in mind! Unfortunately I don't know how to lower the volume of the music so I guess I'll just turn it off haha. In regards to Altar of Dementia , I used to run it in here but it never was enough when I am going fast combo route, it only obtainable through my tutors unless I draw into it, and it's not my number one tutor target as well for a sac outlet.
For Academy Rector it is actually two fold, the first and foremost reason is to go with protected Protean Hulk line in conjunction with Grand Abolisher with a sac out let on the field as it grabs me my reanimation enchantments. The next other reason is for it to grab Necropotence for the burst refill or Sylvan Library / Survival of the Fittest .
@ Abzkaban Yessir it is a beauty! I need to take a better picture once I get a better camera but for now it will do xD Make sure you kick butt with the Survival in your deck, its been in mines for 4 years!
3 weeks ago
You're going to have a lot of dead cards in you hand if you run that many copies of your legendary creatures. Consider also playing some sort of discard/draw engine to filter out the cards you don't need at the moment, like Faithless Looting . Also since you're in red, you pretty much have no reason to not play Lightning Bolt . Other than that I think your mainboard is solid.
I'd go with two copies of Settle the Wreckage as well. Great sweeper, especially since you'll just end up destroying what they put down anyway. If you think the drawback is too much, at least put Lightning Bolt in the sideboard instead if you're not gonna run it on main.
Since you're in both red and white, I'll suggest three Wear / Tear . Really versatile.
Maybe you can get something to protect your creatures against control decks, so something like Brave the Elements might be good for you. Alternatively, you can sideboard in other creatures like Tithe Taker or Grand Abolisher against control decks to tax them further.
Since you have a ton of lands in the deck, it might not hurt to throw in a couple Banefire on the sideboard against decks that you can tax fast and build yourself up. With a deck that's 28 lands, you'll have more opportunities than you think.
You'll wanna cover yourself up against burn, and your best option is Leyline of Sanctity .
Lastly, a couple Damping Sphere for spellslinging decks and tron.
With a sideboard like that you'll have answers to everything, especially since your mainboard already shuts them down.
Hope this helps!
Grand Abolisher occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.07%
GW (Selesnya): 0.74%
W/B (Orzhov): 0.4%
RBW (Mardu): 0.46%