You may cast Rout any time you could cast an instant if you pay more to cast it.
Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated.
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3 days ago
Avacyn out of the Helavault, backed by other angels and with a plan to destroy the world? Sounds like a fun deck! :D you've asked to keep it budget, so most of the suggestions below should cost <$1 each. I've split my advice into sections, hopefully that'll help break it down into more bite-size chunks.
CHOOSE YOUR BATTLEFIELD
It felt like you had lots of fun cards in the deck, but it's not entirely clear how all of them fit in - at the moment it feels like you're trying to do a bit of everything. It might be worth (A) choosing what direction you want to take the deck (e.g. lifegain / big angels / destroy the world), (B) what your win-con and win-con cards are going to be for A, and (C) what cards would feel awesome to draw when you're winning / terrible to draw on an empty board. Hopefully those three questions will help shape what cards you choose to add and remove :) I decided to go human-angel tribal for one of my first decks that I built (Brisela, the confused angel), and whilst it wasn't my best deck (and is definitely in need of an update), you'll notice that there aren't (m)any creatures that aren't humans or angels. (I've also build a 'destroy the world'-style Oathbreaker deck, which does funky things with boardwipes, Dingus Staff/Dingus Egg and Second Sunrise!)
Well, with a slight plan of where you want the deck to go, let's think about some things you might want to consider. I've tried to keep the advice below quite general - if you're struggling to know what to remove, then do let me know and I'm happy to offer specific suggestions.
PROTECT THE GENERAL!
I really like how you've got 'fair' "destroy all" board wipes in there, which become one-sided when Avaycn is around. However, do be careful if someone exiles Avacyn in response to your Armageddon (or similar) - you really don't want to be on the receiving end of your own wipe! Avacyn is great, but she is vulnerable to pesky cards like Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile that keep appearing in EDH. You might want to add some cards that give Avacyn hexproof or protection - I like the Mirror Shield and Flicker of Fate in the deck, but that's very little Avacyn 'protection' for 99 cards. Some suggestions here are artifacts like Whispersilk Cloak and Swiftfoot Boots. (Lightning Greaves is the best of these, but is a little more expensive - definitely a commander staple, so do pick one up at some point!). Creatures that give protection are also great, and those have the added bonus of providing you some early-game safety, especially those with repeatable protection. I'd suggest adding Devoted Caretaker to the deck, and either Benevolent Bodyguard or Alseid of Life's Bounty (with plans to upgrade to everyone's favourite Mother of Runes - another commander staple! - and Giver of Runes if you're happy to spend a little more).
Now that Avacyn's bodyguards are sorted, let's have a think of how we can get her out as fast as (reasonably) possible.
RISE AND SHINE, ANGELS
Since you have got a lot of high CMC creatures, I'd be tempted to chuck some more mana rocks in there - Worn Powerstone and Hedron Archive are good places to start - as well as card that reduce the cost of your high-end cards - Oketra's Monument is especially great here since it also gives you extra creatures to block with, Pearl Medallion is also good if you can stretch the budget. (I'd personally definitely remove Lotus Petal - it doesn't do a huge amount for you, and it takes up a slot that could be used by a repeatable mana rock.) Rocks/reducers will allow you to get more angels out quicker, meaning that you're more likely to have a board presence in the midgame - and rescue Avacyn from the Helavault as early as possible!
The creatures you have could do with some tweaking - I think it might be worth trimming your choices, but how you want to do that will depend on what 'theme' you want to have.
MAYDAY MAYDAY, WE'RE OUT OF AMMO!
The most important resource in MtG are cards. You use cards to get mana and play creatures that ultimately win you the game - if you don't have any cards then it's very hard to win games. I don't currently see much in the way of card draw in your deck, so I imagine you'd be top-decking quite often with this, hoping to get the card you really need from the top. (There are also a couple more lands than usual - standard EDH decks run 40 lands - meaning that you're a little more likely to have a 'dead draw' than you would otherwise be.)
Unfortunately we're in white so what we have is card advantage instead of card draw, but do have a think about what cards you could add that might help - Mentor of the Meek is a favourite of mine, but you need to have enough low-power creatures to make it work (or cards that create small tokens - like Oketra's Monument!). If you have a bit of budget then an Endless Atlas is a safe staple for EDH mono-colour decks, and Well of Lost Dreams is really nifty in a lifegain deck :) also, cards that fetch to the battlefield effectively count as card draw, so I'll also allow cards like Myriad Landscape, Reya Dawnbringer, and Brought Back (which can even function as a ramp card if you manage to use it on lands like Myriad Landscape).
WATCH THE WORLD BURN
I heard you like board wipes? End Hostilities is cheap, but if you want to go OG then the purest wipe is Wrath of God, though it's younger brother Day of Judgment) is a lot cheaper. Fumigate, Rout, Martial Coup, Phyrexian Rebirth and Nevinyrral's Disk also fit in that slot. Finally, if you can make it fit then I'd perhaps look at adding Worldslayer. It's a lot of mana to equip, but once it's on Avacyn there's no way anyone else is coming back from that!
Do remember that all of the above are just suggestions, let me know if you have any questions, good luck, and remember - once all the dust settles and the other players die, "Only one may stand!"
1 week ago
Love me some Angus.
I am not a big fan of Fog Patch. It doesn't stop creatures with Trample, which is a pretty big deal. I also think you can do way better than Fog and Holy Day in Commander.
Cancel is a bit bland as well. There are tons of better counterpells. I would play Forbid, but pretty much anything else will work as well.
Elephant Grass is a super powerful card for you. Extra points for comboing with Hannah, Ship's Navigator.
You aren't running too many essential creatures to your game plan, aside from card draw and ramp. Asceticism seems a bit out of place. Why not play Privileged Position? This will protect all your permanents at the expense of not being able to regenerate creatures for 2 mana.
You can do a lot better than Guard Gomazoa. In fact, I think it would be a good idea to add a few more lands to your deck and this seems like an appropriate cut.
O-Ring or Banishing Light could be replaced by Detention Sphere. It's only slightly better because it can deal with boards full of tokens.
1 month ago
My comments are constructive criticism not trying to tear you down. There are way too many lands here (38 is the max typically) and no true ramp. Mana rocks and mono white ramp spells such as Land Tax, Tithe (two expensive cards) or Gift of Estates. Mana Rocks like Sol Ring, Marble Diamond and Gilded Lotus will help. You definitely need Board Wipes with Avacyn it is one-sided, Wrath of God, Mass Calcify, Cleansing Nova and Rout to name a few, side note Descend upon the Sinful is mostly horrible in your deck cause it wipes your board even with Avacyn out. For you Humans and Angels a great card you are missing is Herald of War reducing the cost of both after it attacks. King saproling mentioned a few reducers as well. Heraldic Banner is a good rock/ pump spell.
3 months ago
It seems there are many cards in here that just don't do much, as well as there being naught in terms of basic essentials for a commander deck.
As for creatures:
Dewdrop Spy , Dream Thief , Faerie Duelist , Faerie Seer , Final-Sting Faerie , Hypnotic Sprite , Latchkey Faerie , Nightshade Schemers , Pestermite , Shinechaser , Surveilling Sprite , Thornwind Faeries , Wasp Lancer , and Wizened Snitches . None of these seem to stand out. They have lacking effects that don't bolster power level, but rather drag it down. Cards in other supertypes seem to fall under the same category.
Faerie Tauntings , Stolen by the Fae , Dimir Locket , Violet Pall and Dimir Locket all seem incongruous and lacking. Brainstorm is best when shuffling effects can launder away cards if need be. This deck has only two tutors. Stolen by the Fae is restrictive and minute in impact, as well as a sorcery. Violet Pall seems far too expensive for what it does.
For what I believe should be added, card draw, ramp, and threats.
Windreader Sphinx , Coastal Piracy , and Bident of Thassa are able to draw a considerable amount over the course of a match. Phyrexian Arena , Underworld Connections , and Consecrated Sphinx oft daggle me through the game rather easily.
Good fortune to you, my liege. May all lout in your wake.
3 months ago
Tata Elixir is there so that when I Primal Surge I don't lose the game. If Plaguecrafter gets put on the battlefield then I'll have to sac which will draw from Korvold and result in me losing. Additionally if someone can destroy my board at instant speed like Rout then I can pop the elixir to shuffle all the creatures back and the primal surge, then use Ring of Three Wishes to tutor primal surge and recast it again. The elixir doesn't do much on its own but it's a needed insurance policy for once my surge goes off. As far as the lockets I just like them better 1. because with Korvold it draws me 3 cards for 3 mana and 2. because they're just pet cards meaning I like them despite being sub optimal. As far as win cons, I can with with commander damage, tokens, getting Garruk's emblem, and taking extra combats with Hellkite Charger . I appreciate the suggestions and will start looking for a slot to add in Rune-Scarred Demon since that's another permanent based tutor to find primal surge.
3 months ago
So I really like this deck and it seems like it is fairly resilient. A few things I would consider adding would be more cards that synergize with your life gain strategy and Trostani’s populate ability such as:
Angelic Accord More tokens for gaining life in a deck that wants to make tokens and gain life seems like a win to me.
Well of Lost Dreams Fantastic way to turn that additional life gain into card advantage.
Congregate This is a nice card that works extremely well in Commander if you need a quick boost in life. Note Congregate reads target player gains 2 life for each creature on the battlefield. Many times, when I would use this card in a commander game I would easily gain 20 plus life off it.
Serra Avatar One way to read this card is play Serra Avatar with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice in play and double your life total. Even if you don’t have Trostani out you are still getting in most cases a creature that is well over a 7/7 most games for 7 mana which is a good deal.
Aetherflux Reservoir Can function as a secondary WinCon that you can pull out of nowhere. Trust me, play this card when you have an excess life total then instantly activate it taking the player that is the biggest threat out of the game. Also, don’t write off the first ability on the card. You would be surprised how quickly you gain life by just playing spells.
Growing Ranks A free populate at the beginning of each of your turns can be extremely strong in this deck.
Advent of the Wurm 4 mana for a 5/5 trample is straight value plus this will work really well with populate.
Armada Wurm 6 mana for a 5/5 trample that also creates a 5/5 trample wurm token. 10 power for 6 mana plus gaining a token works with populate.
Glare of Subdual In a deck that wants to go wide this can quickly shut down opponents from attacking you.
Blade of Selves and Herald of the Host Both of these cards work extremely well with Trostani, Selesnya's Voice . How they work is you attack with either Herald of the Host or the creature Blade of Selves is equipped to and let the myriad ability activate creating a copy of the creature that is attacking your other opponents. Normally the tokens created off the myriad ability would be exiled at the end of combat but, if you use Trostani, Selesnya's Voice ’s populate ability during your combat phase you can create an additional copy of the token that will stay in play after the combat phase is over because, it was created using the populate mechanic and not the myriad mechanic. Even if you don’t populate the tokens that were created Trostani, Selesnya's Voice ’s life gain ability will still trigger off the tokens gaining you a lot of additional life. The myriad ability also works extremely well with creatures that have enter the battlefield abilities. Imagine this line of play, you equip Blade of Selves to your Terastodon then attack. The myriad ability triggers and you put two additional token copies of Terastodon into play attacking your other opponents. When those Terastodon tokens enter the battlefield they trigger their enter the battlefield ability allowing you to remove up to six other noncreature permanents (three from each of the Terastodon’s that came into play). Also imagine Blade of Selves attached to Serra Avatar you would be tripling your life total each time you attack as long as Trostani is out.
A few cards I would personally consider removing Thrun, the Last Troll , Primal Surge , Godsend , Strionic Resonator , Woodfall Primus , Rout (maybe consider replacing Rout for Martial Coup which seems more on theme for a token deck) Felidar Sovereign , (I get why you added him but winning with Felidar in commander seems like a cheap way to win.)
A lot of these cards really don’t seem on theme for either gaining more life or creating tokens. Personally, I would look at replacing a lot of these creatures with creatures that make tokens when they come into play like Armada Wurm that you can use to populate or cards that synergize with your life gain like Ajani's Pridemate .
One last thing your combo of Darien, King of Kjeldor + Trostani, Selesnya's Voice does not work exactly as you think. For Darien to trigger the damage has to resolve meaning that if a player deals more damage than your life total at once then you would die before Darien could trigger. As long as you have at least one life after damage resolves and both Darien and Trostani are on the field then your combo works, you create the solider token from Darien and, Trostani gives you the life from the token coming into play.
4 months ago
Okay. I'm the Reddit dude. Sorry for the wait. Life interfered and I didn’t have a great opportunity to write this, so my b. Here's what I'd try messing around with. I'll do my best to keep suggestions budget
Removal Naya Charm is a fog, removal spell, mass unblockablility, and a Regrowth all at once. Worth it. Generous Gift and Beast Within are also solid open-ended removal spells. Oblation , Chaos Warp , and Swords to Plowshares should do the rest
Draw Add Beast Whisperer , Guardian Project , and some other spells that draw off creatures. Your deck has so many creatures - might as well turn them into cantrips. Primordial Sage and Lifecrafter's Bestiary also come to mind. Maybe a Vivien Reid as removal and draw all in one, if you feel like splurging a bit?
Boardwipes, removal, ramp, draw - That’s the general stuff that each deck needs simply to function
Here’s some more niche stuff I think your deck could use
Protection Kindred Boon and Eight-and-a-Half-Tails are good at protecting your creatures, and what makes them better is that the're activated abilities - to say, your werewolves won't flip but you’ll get to spend your mana
The Other Stuff I really like Cult of the Waxing Moon , Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves , Bow of Nylea , Mastery of the Unseen and Boros Charm . Bow synergises particularly well with your commander, making blocking a lose-lose situation. Mastery of the Unseen is a solid mana sink, so you’ll have something to do on the turns where you don’t want to flip your wolves. Boros Charm ’s just insanely more versatile than it appears
Ok. This comment’s long enough as is, so I’ll take my leave. If you want a hand making cuts, though, feel free to comment and I’ll try to get back to you quicker this time :)