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Creature — Plant Wall
Defender (This creature can't attack.)
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Vine Trellis Discussion
4 weeks ago
Hey there! Cool deck you have here! Have you considered Wall of Blossoms instead of Vine Trellis? I don't think you'll have a problem making mana, and the extra card draw to find your Assault Formation can be huge.
1 month ago
I think you would benefit from streamlining the deck by having fewer one-ofs, so here's some suggestions:
98% of the time Rancor is strictly better than Unnatural Predation, and since it was a common back in Urza's Legacy it's Pauper legal. You might also want to add a third Rancor instead of Wildsize as it is cheaper.
4 months ago
Wall of Tanglecord isn't really needed. I can understand a fear of fliers, but I feel that it could be better suited to something else. Maybe another wurm, like Wurmcoil Engine, or a wall that provides mana, like Vine Trellis. I'd recommend Whip Vine, but unfortunately it's not modern legal! Good luck with your deck!
5 months ago
Thank you for your suggestions.
Personally I believe Wall of Roots is by far better than Vine Trellis, because you can generate mana the turn it's played rather that having to wait to use it due to summoning sickness. However, Vine Trellis would be a good alternative if I were to go an ultra budget route.
I've always found Assault Formation to be a bit underwhelming. I want to like it, and I think it would be cool to combo with something like Behind the Scenes to make all of my walls unblockable. It's something I'll think about, but at the moment I don't see it having a place in this deck. I will probably put together a decklist consisting purely of defenders and utilize that combo.
Carven Caryatid is nice, but I don't know what I would take out for it and since I run 36 creatures in here I feel as if Lead the Stampede is a better draw engine since I often find myself putting three to four creatures into my hand consistently from it to assemble a win condition.
Sylvan Caryatid is definitely something I will consider when I eventually work on a sideboard.
5 months ago
I love wall ramps, my suggestions are as follows:
Add Assault Formation. This card is a cornerstone for Wall/Defender decks and is a must include IMO.
5 months ago
Arbor Elf + Utopia Sprawl is a great ramp combo, but unless you draw both its not very fast. Some decent ramp spells worth experimenting with are Nissa's Pilgrimage or Rampant Growth. Since most of your other spells are more expensive CMC wise, you could possibly get Scorned Villager transformed which is decent ramp. Otherwise you can try swapping in some mana dorks, like Mystic Elves or even some walls that can also help early game like Vine Trellis or Sylvan Caryatid.
5 months ago
So from what I can see your ramp cards are as follows:
Llanowar Elves x 4
Personally I think just 8 cards that can ramp you up quickly is too few in a deck relying on getting big creatures out. Cards like Cultivate or Utopia Sprawl or Arbor Elf are faster ways to ramp. I think Vine Trellis or Sylvan Caryatid are better than Wall of Roots for ramp.
Otherwise, you have alot of cards that require double or Which can be dangerous with a deck that doesnt have dual color lands like Simic Guildgate. For instance it will be hard to play Leatherback Baloth on turn 3 or 4 if you only have islands in play considering it needs 3. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is a great card but if your deck isnt mono-blue or mono-green I dont think itll ever hit as big as it could with one color.
TBH I think you should consider dropping if you wanna play a big stompy ramp deck but if this is what you like I wont stop ya :)
Other cards to consider in any ramp deck with green:
6 months ago
I picked Vine Trellis over Sylvan Caryatid because it is cheaper, and I only need green mana. The hexproof would be good, except it's not one of my main combo pieces, so I doubt it will be targeted much.