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Defender (This creature can't attack.)
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Vine Trellis Discussion
3 weeks ago
Very cool deck idea, +1 from me. I agree that Rot Shambler is probably better than Bloodbriar. I don't really understand why you are using Vine Trellis, if you want cheap mana ramp, I would always choose Elvish Mystic.
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Hey hankhill. Assault Formation, and Brave the Sands work as such an incredible duo. It's a little 'win more' for some perhaps, but for me I think it completely stabalizes the board. Rolling Stones is a card that is often recommended by people, but the common mistake is that all defenders are walls, and Rolling Stones only works with walls. Secondly, if there were more walls in the deck, I'd be using a card just to save me a little mana, and it just isn't very good card advantage.
Because there are such good ramp defenders such as Overgrown Battlement, Vine Trellis, Gatecreeper Vine (fixing not ramp of course), and Axebane Guardian, it makes it almost impossible for anyone to make a defender deck that isn't also a ramp deck. I will be making a ramp defender deck up (because they are awesome), but if you playtest this deck you'll realise that the deck just wouldn't gain all that much from turn two ramp. As soon as you put a little ramp in, you then add something with a high mana cost or an X cost, then you add the other ramp cards in, and the deck loses focus. I strongly feel that Assault Formation decks don't benefit greatly from ramp, what the deck wants is a hand full of cards to be able to apply constant pressure. When I build my ramp defender deck up I'll let you know and you can see what you think of it.
However, if you did want to run some ramp in the deck, for a sort of faux storm, then I'd drop Jaddi Offshoot and Leyline of Vitality to put in Overgrown Battlement and Axebane Guardian. Defender decks are so much more fun than people give them credit for!
4 months ago
Hey there, a couple of early defenders that I love to run in these decks are four Jaddi Offshoot, as it blocks, it's one mana, and gains you life. And four Vine Trellis, as it blocks, and ramps as well (and I prefer that then running Cryptolith Rite). Also, I'd be running the full four Overgrown Battlements. Also, another two drop is Sylvan Caryatid of course. I think you'll get more from them is they ramp themselves.
Also, if you want a card that can nova, Tower Defense is pretty awesome, with a full four Assault Formations, it would be a terrifying deck to face up against.
4 months ago
Hey there, first off just a couple of defenders to think about that I run in these sorts of decks. First is Jaddi Offshoot, one mana so you get a blocker straight away, and it gains you life which is always welcome against aggro decks. Also, Vine Trellis, 0/4 defender that ramps, it's awesome, certainly better than Gatecreeper Vine in a mono green build I feel.
4 months ago
Reading the title of the deck I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it, but I think you've done a really solid job. It is obviously going to work, the purpose and focus is clear and crisp, it looks fun to play, and horrible to play against, I think you've done a good job.
Things to look at. A couple of defenders you may have missed and I think should really be in the deck over some of the others. Although decent enough, I'd drop the Tanglecord, Vines, and Kami. I'd look at putting in Jaddi Offshoot, and Vine Trellis. More ramp and lifegain, can't go wrong there.
Also, Beast Within is a bold choice. It can't get past your defenders, and you know your meta better than I do, so if it's working for you, I trust you with that.